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Armchair-GM
22 févr. 2020 à 19 h 14
Sujet:
Ducks Trade Now - Lineup Of The Future
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>I hope you've learned two lessons from this construction:
(1) people rarely read Team Explanations carefully, as evidenced by the fact that only <a href="/users/StoneFan" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@StoneFan</a> seems to have noticed the word "fantasy," and then only belatedly.
<strong>(2) there is little point to posting wishful thinking team projections, as the direction of that sentiment is rarely shared by your readers. Note that even guys who take an interest in Anaheim posts, like <a href="/users/mytduxfan" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@mytduxfan</a> and <a href="/users/AFOX10900" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@AFOX10900</a> (who isn't even an Anaheim fan), didn't respond to this.</strong>
I like the idea of trying to get Conor Timmons from Colorado. What about Larsson plus Shore?</div></div>
It was posted 1 hour ago. Give me a minute! Apart from the Grant trade (doubt he ends up in LV, but value is good), all deals unrealistic or don't consider opposing team needs.
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Armchair-GM
22 févr. 2020 à 19 h 13
Sujet:
Ducks Trade Now - Lineup Of The Future
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>You're not getting Trocheck for those pieces, Florida politely declines.</div></div>
Why do you value Trocheck so highly? Two down years in a row now. His 75 pt season is looking like a 1 and done. ANA has no interest in Trocheck. We're certainly not trading Manson away for him. I guess FLA wouldn't be interested in Manson anyway.
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Armchair-GM
22 févr. 2020 à 6 h 7
Sujet:
May as well at this point
Not sure I agree with your assessment on the Kase deal. BM tried to trade Kase earlier in the year, so he clearly wasn't keen on him and his injury problems. Even last year he expressed his frustrations with the team's seeming inability to stay healthy and Kase was a big part of that, missing most of the season. Not wanting to build your core around a guy who likely never plays 60+ games a year and is 1 concussion away from retirement sounds seems smart to me. If you're dissatisfied with the return on Kase, I understand, but I don't think this signifies the beginning of a tear-down rebuild. With that said, I LOVE the Rakell deal, especially if we get Laf or even another forward with our 1st. Grant trade should be between a 2nd or 3rd, hopefully. MDZ likely only nets us a 5th-7th. I'd trade Shore for whatever we can get. The rest I wouldn't trade personally.
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Armchair-GM
21 févr. 2020 à 22 h 17
Sujet:
Reconsidering the Matt Dumba offer
Maybe, but you wont' get him with that return.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 févr. 2020 à 22 h 17
Sujet:
new lines with kase gone
Swap Rakell, LW, and SIlf, RW. I would like to get another chance to see Sprong this season.
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Armchair-GM
21 févr. 2020 à 20 h 39
Sujet:
Adjust trade value to liking
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jangle29</b></div><div>Team is still young. If you cannot see that i will screen shot this and come back and prove you wrong when they are even better? Ducks will be garbage for longer than Manson is a servicable hockey player. So holding on to him is ridiculous. Thus why there are rumors of people kicking tires</div></div>
Cool story bro... you do that. See ya after your next rebuild.
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Armchair-GM
21 févr. 2020 à 18 h 47
Sujet:
Deadline 2
If Henrique is going to NYI, I'd want Bode Wilde coming back the other way. Axel Andersson isn't the solution to our RHD problem IMO.
The Grant deal is fine for me.
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Armchair-GM
21 févr. 2020 à 18 h 44
Sujet:
ANA Fans what does it take to get Manson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kosta</b></div><div>What if we just both pretend Nick Jensen is 20 years old does that work?</div></div>
If we're playing that game, we'll take a 20 year old Carlson please. Happy to do as a 1-for-1.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 févr. 2020 à 18 h 24
Sujet:
New Anaheim
Wrong! Backes should be on the 1st line. We're trying to tank here!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 févr. 2020 à 18 h 23
Sujet:
ANA Fans what does it take to get Manson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kosta</b></div><div>Yeah, I figured as much. The 1st, Leason, and Vanecek probably isn't far off of what he's actually worth, but it's moreso far from what Murray would move him for. I wonder if a 1st and Alexeyev would be enough value for Murray to at least let the phone call last more than a minute..</div></div>
Yeah. I'd say he's worth a mid-1st right now, but 1st + a couple former 2nd rounders sounds about right (ignoring needs - Leason and Vanecek don't really address any need for us). The problem with Alexeyev is he's LH, same is true for Johansen, and we really need a RHD.
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Armchair-GM
21 févr. 2020 à 18 h 11
Sujet:
ANA Fans what does it take to get Manson
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ConnorMcHellebucyk</b></div><div>Murray overvalues Manson too much. It will take a king's ransom to pull him out</div></div>
Manson is worth more to us then he'd ever get in a trade. With that said, I don't think WSH has the assets to acquire him. We'd need a legit RHD with top 4 upside + 1st + probably.
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Armchair-GM
21 févr. 2020 à 18 h 8
Sujet:
ANA start the rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DocArin0</b></div><div>Id say so Bouchard is one of those A+ Prospects. Comparison IMO would be Sandin,Byram, Tippett, Brandstrom Ect those types of prospects by themselves net a Huge player on their own let alone another 1st ontop. Biggest trade comparison i could find would be the OTT-VGK Mark Stone Trade
OTT Traded: Mark Stone (With 8 Year extension) + Lindberg Whom was a throw in to make the contracts work
For VGK: Brandstrom (A+ Prospect) + Oscar Lindberg (Salary Dump) + 2nd Round pick.
If you breakdown that trade without the Salary dump you might be looking at a 3rd/4th instead of a 2nd
As for the NJD/TB trade for Coleman while Foote is a great prospect most people would see him as a B+/A- instead of an A+ IMO those A+ prospects are reserved for players with Top Pair/Line potential</div></div>
I agree that Bouchard is an A prospect. I really like him and think he's got top pairing upside. Perhaps not elite upside, but he's the right type of 2-way player to become a top pairing D-man IMO.
I don't think Mark Stone is a good comparable to Rakell. Stone was already on a hefty contract in OTT (+$7M) and wanted to get paid even more money on his next deal, effectively forcing OTT to move him. He was certainly being shopped by OTT. When Stone was traded, he got a massive 8 x 9.5M contract extension. I think his contract demands combined with OTT actively shopping him massively reduced his value. Not to mention that Stone had injury concerns attached to him. He's never had a full season and tends to miss at least 20 games per year. That also lowers his value tool. Rakell isn't the most durable of players, usually missing 10 games per season himself, but I think his team friendly deal is very, very attractive and really ups his value compared to what Stone got. I mean, you're talking about <$4M per season for the next 3 playoff runs vs. $9.5M. That's massive, especially for competing teams with limited cap space.
I'm not saying that EDM would accept Bouchard + 1st. Tbh, I don't think they'd move Bouchard at all. However, I think that kind of demand is fair for Rakell.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 févr. 2020 à 17 h 52
Sujet:
Continuing the Rebuild
Why are we moving Rowney? He's been a very solid 4C for us and well worth his contract. I've loved the 4th line this year. Would rather move Grant as he'll return more value and in the form of picks.
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Armchair-GM
21 févr. 2020 à 17 h 49
Sujet:
And Ducks fans were declining Kase for Faulk
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>Yeah that was a win win trade to me.</div></div>
I think Kase could have returned more, but then I'm not that high on Axel Andersson. The 1st is nice, especially in such a deep draft. I just would have preferred a better prospect.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>The things this fanbase believed they could get for Kase greatly differ from what they actually got. Kase has long been this website's most overvalued player. I must say I'm surprised you are able to tolerate a trade that, if one of us posted here 6 months ago, would not have got positive attention.</div></div>
Meh... his value dropped throughout the season. If he'd scored at a similar clip to previous years, maybe he'd have been forgiven for his inability to stay healthy. Sadly, that didn't happen and his production has been poor. I guess you're right. I thought Kase could have returned a late 1st or 2 x 2nds. I think, when you take into consideration the retention on the Backes deal, I think he's probably been valued at around a 2nd round pick + Axel (former 2nd rounder, but his value has dropped for me) in this deal. So I was overvaluing him, but I wouldn't say it's to the level you seem to be suggesting.
In any event, he's gone now and I wish him all the best.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Salzy</b></div><div>Kase's value has diminished since the offseason, He has not proven that he can stay healthy and he has not proven that he can be a top 6 forward, he can have all the analytic support in the world, he hasn't actually proven what his potential is.
I love Kase as a player and I hope he reaches his potential but you are acting as if his value is unchanged from the offseason
Any sane Ducks fan know this is probably the best return possible currently and yes in the offseason most of us would scoff at this return but thats how volatile of a player Kase is</div></div>
Agreed. I wish the best for Kase, but didn't see him as part of the future. Too brittle. If he stays healthy, it's a steal for BOS. However, my view is that he'll never have a full season and that he's unlikely to reach his full potential. It's sad really.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jah1722</b></div><div>You’re outline of the trade is off. It’s pretty clear that Kase alone was getting Axel and a 2nd. BOS improves the pick 31 spots for taking on $4.5M in cap (it’s actually only 3.425 in the minors) and even less in actual money.</div></div>
This is how I view it. BOS retained on Backes so he didn't cost a 1st to dump, which is exactly what BOS fans said the org didn't "need"/want to do. The Backes dump probably = 2nd. Then Kase for Axel + 2nd + 2nd (for Backes) = 1st + Axel. It's not how I valued Kase (late 1st or 2 x 2nd), but it's not miles off.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AFOX10900</b></div><div>Bc Faulk sucks lmao, and his contract is worse, I wouldn't give FC's for him at this point, this trade is by no means good, we needed one more significant piece imo, Axel+Backes=FC's, then first+Beecher/young bottom 6 player (Kuraly type)/second</div></div>
We really dodged a bullet on that deal. This is way better for us and for the future of this team.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 févr. 2020 à 17 h 25
Sujet:
New Lines
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DarkShadowZz</b></div><div>Expiermenting</div></div>
HAHAHAHAHA!! Such a great response.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Scoob1978</b></div><div>To drive the tank</div></div>
Hopefully!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 févr. 2020 à 17 h 24
Sujet:
Kase gone
Manson deal would need a better prospect... probably Heinola. I know it's an overpay, but Manson isn't available without an overpay. I don't think WPG does, nor should do it.
Like the Henrique deal, but would prefer just Bode Wilde + 1st.
Shore deal is fine. Get what we can for him.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 févr. 2020 à 17 h 18
Sujet:
ANA start the rebuild
Manson isn't getting moved and could net a better return than Trocheck + picks. CAR could offer more value, even if it were in picks in prospects. I'd do the Ceci deal, but don't see why TOR would.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jslongo</b></div><div>Ok. I think it would have to be an overpay to get Bouchard from EDM. Unless EDM is trying to go after a bigger name.</div></div>
What about your thoughts on Rakell to EDM instead? I proposed a deal around Bouchard + 1st + (small add) for Rakell. EDM needs help at W. I'd be willing to move Rakell if it netted us a legitimate RHD prospect with a top 4 D upside. I'd also move Rakell for Nils Lundkvist + 1st of the NYR. Too much value for Rakell?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 févr. 2020 à 17 h 12
Sujet:
Occams Razor deadline - ANA and SJ
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Propeller09</b></div><div>NOPE.</div></div>
Huh? We got more for Kase than you proposed in this deal. Well done on also incorrectly valuing Kase.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 févr. 2020 à 17 h 9
Sujet:
Deadline deals - CBJ and ANA
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Propeller09</b></div><div>Ouch. We get Kase, and you get Backes, a (late)1st and Andersson. :squintytongue</div></div>
Lol... good for BOS and Kase. Yeah, thanks for the 1st in potentially one of the deepest drafts in recent years and a young prospect that fills a need. I have no idea why you think we got burned here. The return was far better than Heinen + Hughes + 5th.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 févr. 2020 à 17 h 6
Sujet:
Adjust trade value to liking
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jangle29</b></div><div>Beat part about this is you ripping another team when your team is a bottom feeder, even with one of the beat goalies in the world. Pathetic</div></div>
You're right! We're a bottom-feeder team right now. The difference is that we'll miss the playoffs this year and get a top 10, maybe top 5, pick + the pick we just got from BOS. We'll be able to use those picks to improve our team and get better. Meanwhile, TOR is a fringe playoff team with no assets to improve. We still mid-retool... what's TOR's excuse?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 févr. 2020 à 10 h 3
Sujet:
Moves
I take it you're not an ANA fan because these are all terrible. No wonder all the BOS and MTL fans are happy with the deals. We get completely screwed.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 févr. 2020 à 9 h 18
Sujet:
Adjust trade value to liking
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jangle29</b></div><div><strong>Because Anaheim has a history of not giving out longer contracts to players like him. </strong>Also who wants to sign for a garbage team who has no end in sight lol</div></div>
Literally just gave Henrique a 5 year deal, Silf a 5 year deal, Fowler is signed to a 6 year deal. All those contracts will take them well into their 30s. Wtf are you talking about? You're clearly so butt-hurt you can't think straight.
Lol... says the TOR fan whose team missed the playoffs 9 out 10 year, went through a rebuild (where they got lucky in the lottery and drafted Matthews), and still gets bounced every year in the 1st round of the playoffs. Your team is trash. They might not even make the playoffs this year and you haven't even got a 1st round pick or the cap space to make the team better... hahahahaha!! Hence the trash offers of KK + Dermot for minute munching top 4 D-men that can actually defend.
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Armchair-GM
20 févr. 2020 à 21 h 3
Sujet:
Rakell and Buffer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>You’re going to be waiting for that source a long time. If you would fully read my posts, you would have seen that when you first asked, i said that it was a logical conclusion that i reached on my own. I tend to use logic. Try it some time. </div></div>
So you have no source and it's just something you "feel" will happen. Unfortunately, your feelings aren't evidence. That's a big L for you I guess.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>I did mention that Galchenyuk’s point per game total had declined every year since his 30 goal season. So, i did show the decline. You just don’t want to see it. You have an irrational love for Galchenyuk that is blocking logic and reason, so I’m done here. </div></div>
So stable goals per game = declining. Your logic is failing you! Funny how you value points more than goals when goals is what wins games. More awful logic on your part.
For the record, Chuky's P/GP went up after his 30 goal season from 0.68 to 0.72 (<a href="https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/g/galchal01.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/g/galchal01.html</a>). Maybe check his statistics before commenting next time. Another L for you.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>PS: Learn to spell, Galc is as nauseating as chucky. His name is <strong>galchenyuk,</strong> the number 2 is spelled, “two,” and there’s no “e,” in the world, “aging.”</div></div>
And that's a third L... you're out! Losers who can't admit their wrong always resort to pointing out spelling errors... so weak. Btw, Galchenyuk has a capital G at the front, just everyone else's name. Your spelling and grammar is way better than mine :sarcasm
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Armchair-GM
20 févr. 2020 à 20 h 25
Sujet:
Maybe dont
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Chief_Kief</b></div><div>Thats why this deal is 25% retained not 50%. 50% would be a different deal with more going to Chicago...</div></div>
It's still just awful for CHI. Saad at 25% is worth 1st + quality prospect even without Hickey going the other way.
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Armchair-GM
20 févr. 2020 à 20 h 24
Sujet:
Rakell and Buffer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>I’m 31. I assumed you were in your teens because you call him chucks like a damn toddler. I should have specified. You think good players in their mid 20’s find themselves on four teams in a little over a year very often? You don’t think that’s a bit of a red flag? </div></div>
I don't care how old you are. Stop talking about "4 team in 18 months" and show me the numbers that prove Chuky's s declining. 1 bad season doesn't mean he's declining and suddenly a cap dump, it's just a down year.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>First it was kid, now it’s old man. Yikes. You’ve just said, “no, he’s awesome!” Like 20 times. Are you going to be a fan of whatever KHL team he signs with next year?</div></div>
I've proven my point with statistics. You've done nothing but assert your baseless opinion of him... oh, wait... there was that cherry-picked stat about his P/GP "declining", falling to mention his stable G/GP and consistency to produce ~20 goals per year. You've lost this argument. That's why you're just resorting to pointless statements in some feeble attempt to get under my skin. Still waiting on that source that Galc is destined for Russian by the way.
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