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Forum: Armchair-GM9 févr. à 11 h 24

Sujet: Caps v2024

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dickie_Dunn</b></div><div>Wow, I'm not even sure I'd offer anything for that bag of parts, but you want to give up Miky, Podz and a 6th?</div></div>

Cuz Miky, Podz and the 6th are doing nothing for the team right now.

Forum: Armchair-GM8 févr. à 15 h 48

Sujet: Vancouver getting Kessel

Getting Phil Kessel would be doing this team a disservice.
They DO NOT need a 36 year old egotistical winger who hasn't played in months.
There is a reason that he is unsigned.

Forum: Armchair-GM8 févr. à 15 h 3

Sujet: If van cant get him signed

No thanks, maybe if you take out Savoie and add 2025 first and third

Forum: Armchair-GM6 févr. à 15 h 56

Sujet: claim

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vancity2196</b></div><div>I can't see Patrick and Jim getting Bonino.
His career is done.</div></div>

Maybe, but he costs nothing and has a ton of playoff experience (105 G ), most of it with Pittsburgh.
The Canucks can take a chance on him, they can waive him if it doesn't work out.
What is Duhaime worth with 50% retention?

Forum: Armchair-GM6 févr. à 13 h 47

Sujet: adding other elements

Mikheyev is not a physical player. Speed is his element, but I think physical play will be more important than speed going forward.
I don't know exactly what a fair price for Anderson is, with retention, but I do think he is exactly the type of forward the Canucks need.

For me it's tough to suggest losing Friedman, I think his surprisingly good play saved the Canucks season.

Forum: Armchair-GM5 févr. à 19 h 15

Sujet: Sabres AGAIN

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>Value is really good compared to the investment Buffalo gave up but they could use Greenway’s presence as a 4LW over fringe NHLers and picks. This would be a good move for a team trying to rebuild unlike Buffalo are 1-2 years away from competing.</div></div>

Greenway won't be there in 1-2 years.

Forum: Armchair-GM3 févr. à 14 h 12

Sujet: deep run

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MNBassman</b></div><div>As a rental, Duhaime is worth a 2nd…especially with retention.</div></div>

Well then someone else can pay it, if you can find them.

Forum: Armchair-GM2 févr. à 19 h 54

Sujet: More over the top

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BUFF36</b></div><div>Willander</div></div>

LOL

Forum: Armchair-GM2 févr. à 19 h 53

Sujet: little more grit

looks right, good add

Forum: Armchair-GM2 févr. à 14 h 26

Sujet: justferfun

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Prime_Jimbo</b></div><div>I like the first deal. Adding two other 4th line/13th forwards makes no sense. Especially, for good prospects.</div></div>

Fischer and O'Brian are there to add something the Canucks will need in the playoffs, truculence. Miller, Joshua, Lafferty and Zadorov will need all the help they can get and you really don't want those players in the penalty box, in fact if I was an NHL coach I would forbid Dmen from fighting, except in the most extenuating circumstances. I'm not sold on either Podkolzin or Raty at this point in their careers.

Forum: Armchair-GM30 janv. à 21 h 0

Sujet: Kuz why not

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wadejos123</b></div><div>Van isn't trading hunter, and say you hypothetically take him out, the hawks aern't giving a 2nd for Kuz</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Warpbox</b></div><div>Absolutely not on that Chicago trade. 0 reason to give up Brzustewich</div></div>

Kuz and Brzu for a second gives the Canucks the cap space and the ability to trade the '24 first for Lindholm and still have a reasonable pick in that draft.
I'd do Kuz and Brzu straight up for Lindholm but I'm not sure that Calgary would. The Flames need cap space too.
The Hawks get to reach the floor next season and get a good player with not much term plus a really good prospect.
The Flames get 4 really good prospects and a first for Lindholm. The 4th is for Lyle, sorta.
I'm not real sure about CBJ deal, but just thought I'd see if I could clear some cap space for next season. Perhaps to re-sign Lindholm?
The Canucks get Lindholm and are able to keep a decent pick in the 2024 draft.
Lindholm will be expensive but I think he is worth it.
There aren't many players out there that fill as many of the Canucks needs as Lindholm.
I'd do the trade before the Canucks get too far into this next MUCH harder part of the season.
While the Canucks have a cushion they shouldn't be planning to rest on it.

Forum: Armchair-GM30 janv. à 20 h 33

Sujet: Kuz why not

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vancity2196</b></div><div>Chicago pass - Chicago isn't giving away their draft picks.
Ilya Mikheyev to CBJ isn't a good idea - CBJ might be asking for a first-round pick and a prospect.
VCR shouldn't trade Petey - Petey is untouchable and he will sign an extension with the Canucks.</div></div>

Not Petey but re-Petey LHD

Forum: Armchair-GM29 janv. à 16 h 39

Sujet: van - philly

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vancity2196</b></div><div>Philly will hang up.
Travis Konecny is not available at the Trade Deadline.
Kuzmenko and Podz won't fit Tort's systems.</div></div>

oh but what fun the fans can have watching the media circus lol

Forum: Armchair-GM29 janv. à 16 h 22

Sujet: Lindholm

Looks good to me.
I don't know why Chicago wouldn't make that trade.
Kuzmenko is as good as, if not better than, every Chicago forward, with exception of Bedard.

Forum: Armchair-GM25 janv. à 20 h 32

Sujet: Yupp

Cole is fine, nostalgia really won't help the team much and Tanev is too expensive.
Giroux (NMC) wants to retire close home and is too old plus too expensive
So Nupp to both deals

Forum: Armchair-GM22 janv. à 17 h 29

Sujet: Monahan

I believe that he is worth a 2nd, but because the Canucks don't have 2024 2nd, I've improved the offer to a 1st, but need something else coming back. I might be convinced to take Montreal's 2025 4th instead.

Forum: Armchair-GM22 janv. à 14 h 39

Sujet: Lindholm to Vancouver

Personally I'd say OK and I think Allvin would too.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 janv. à 20 h 3

Sujet: Cgy1

Canucks would be better off doing the Washington trade themselves and still wouldn't have what they need

Forum: Armchair-GM19 janv. à 18 h 14

Sujet: How far off

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Prime_Jimbo</b></div><div>Good deal for Van. This is where I think they will go vs a massive TDL move. Van just needs a bit of retention to facilitate Duclair to Van. Van could add a prospect to make that work.</div></div>

or the Sharks could have Kuzmenko instead of the 3rd

Forum: Armchair-GM19 janv. à 18 h 13

Sujet: How far off

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Vancity2196</b></div><div>Canucks accept - The second trade seems reasonable.</div></div>

I don't mind the deal but how do the Canucks pay for Duclair without SJS taking money back?

Forum: Armchair-GM19 janv. à 15 h 36

Sujet: GMJR never left

No, No, No from Canucks

Forum: Armchair-GM18 janv. à 19 h 12

Sujet: JEEK

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BigShoots</b></div><div>This is basically like 3 1sts and 3 2nds. You wouldn't get this much if you were going to trade him. I don't think anyone ever has. At least not in the last 30 yrs.</div></div>

I agree that it is an overpay but how else do you convince someone to give up a player that they would like to keep?
Another aspect of this deal is that it provides some affordable protection if Pettersson decides not to re-sign with the Canucks.

Forum: Armchair-GM18 janv. à 12 h 34

Sujet: Reinforcing The Leafs Identity

hasn't worked yet, so let's do it again

Forum: Armchair-GM12 janv. à 19 h 48

Sujet: anyone can be traded

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheAlien</b></div><div>I wouldn't give up all that for Jenner</div></div>

I'm not quite sold on the still unsigned Brzustewicz yet but I must admit he looks promising.
This would also clear up some very valuable cap space while make the team better.
Jenner is the captain of the team and an all-star

"Pure pro. Plays the game the right way. Prepares. Competes.
Wins over 58% of his draws..
Leads by example. Solid second line center who isn't an elite scorer but produces better than secondary offense."

Forum: Armchair-GM11 janv. à 4 h 5

Sujet: something a little different

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>Even as a habs fan I agree this is too much. Maybe up the retention and downgrade the first to a second or a third</div></div>

OK

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