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Forum: Armchair-GM3 janv. 2023 à 20 h 33
Sujet: Carlson out til playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Digitalbooya06</b></div><div>I’d retain $3M and send him to a team like Toronto for a 1st.

If all you’re offering is a 3rd, I’d rather keep him and just let him walk at the end of the year. Him playing for us down the stretch and into the playoffs is more valuable than a 2nd or 3rd.</div></div>

I don't think Brady is far off by looking at the numbers. I'll give you a bit of a summary since I don't watch every Caps game so I wouldn't be informed in making a trade with them either.

Dumba was taken off the PP because Addison has been incredible and Spurgeon our captain runs the other PP. So his points are down for that reason. His defensive play has been better this year which has been his biggest knock. He's been playing with random partners as Brodin has been injured quite a bit this year. I think the Wild want a 1st or a high prospect they like. It all comes down to what is offered. If the Wild are a playoff team and no one pays what BG is after, they keep him and let him walk. We don't have a replacement for him this year so if we keep winning we most likely keep Dumba.
Forum: Armchair-GM30 déc. 2022 à 14 h 21
Sujet: What is Lafs cost
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazWild</b></div><div>Believe it or not the Wild currently have like 6+ center prospects in the organization right now. Either down in the AHL/Other Leagues or in the minors.

Those of them with NHL promise are. Rossi, Khusnutdinov, Haight, Bankier, and Petrovský. All taken within the last 3 years. While it's never a guarantee, both Bankier and Petrovský are lighting up their respective CHL Leagues this year and look fantastic. Khusnutdinov is playing a top-six role for SKA St. Petersburg in the KHL and having a really good year as well.

I'm not saying it's what I'd like to send out but it's what I think NY would probably ask for. Yurov is also an option and a need for NY since they need RW'ers. But he's also the only one Minnesota has of note either. But the Rangers also don't need defenseman or LW'ers, so options are limited.

Edit: And for the record, Laf may still be young, but he's not a prospect at this stage.</div></div>

Love the post! I posted my thread 10 seconds after your hit. Good package. I hate losing either center because we don't have a drafted superstar center in franchise history but we have to let go of something in order to get him. I do have a few questions for you as a Wild fan. Lets say the Wild are going to get Laf and we are ironing out the details

1. Does BG trade a first if he can't get another one in this draft? Hypothetical, Dumba and a 3rd for someones 1st. Wild retain on the trade at the deadline. Now we have 2 and could trade one for a guy like Laf. Or does BG go into the draft without a 1st rounder this year?

2. Do the Wild trade anyone off the current roster to make this trade happen? Who can they afford to lose?

I think BG would be open to moving Greenway or Hartman. I think Greenway would be the one to move as Hartman is cheaper, can slot into more spots in the lineup. I do think Greenway would be great on the Rangers squad. So maybe a trade like this, Greenway, 2nd and a prospect. Not sure I would go too much more than this. As you said, he's no longer a prospect. He's played 2 full seasons. Maybe a change of scenery gets him playing better?
Forum: Armchair-GM3 juill. 2022 à 18 h 1
Sujet: Wild Trade Candidates for 2022-23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kado777</b></div><div>Is that the going price for Greenway/Knies? I actually have a trade in the drafts of Greenway for Knies but I wasn’t sure what to add or take away. I know Toronto would be looking to shed cap, so I feel like we would either need to take Kerfoot, Holl, Mrazek or they would have to be moved in advance. If thats what we could get for Greenway, I would do it right now and either try to sign Nichushkin or trade for Iafallo at the right price to complete that Ek and Foligno line. I would also like to get Robertson if that was possible</div></div>

I think Knies and taking back Mrazek and maybe a draft pick would do. We are taking back more cap and getting a prospect that can fill out the middle of the roster. I think a 3rd would do. It will also help us with a back up for a season. Not sure if Toronto fans would be in favor of this move but it gives them a guy now to win and takes a contract away to sign cheaper. I think it's a good move for them but they love Knies as well.
Forum: Armchair-GM3 juill. 2022 à 17 h 21
Sujet: Wild Trade Candidates for 2022-23
In terms of this post I think all those players are to be had at the right price. Hartman is probably the one I'd like to keep because he plays a solid game. He isn't a 1c and his post season, to me, wasn't fair to judge him on it. The post season is a different animal. I look at Tampa Bay for years lost in the first round and then made some massive moves to bring in the players that would help them get over the top. Kaprizov can do anything he wants on the ice, much like Kucherov. Wallstedt coming up might give us that lock down goalie that can steal games like Vasilevskiy. We hope we have Rossi playing like Point. Ek is similar to Cirelli. We still need pieces and the back end isn't near what Tampa's back line is. They are big and nasty. Even Colorado has size and nasty on the back end. One of my most wanted trades is Greenway to Toronto for Knies and a second/third. But I think the players above are accurate to players that might need to move. Jost is one I'd like to see what he can do with elevated time and talent.
Forum: Armchair-GM3 juill. 2022 à 15 h 48
Sujet: Wild Trade Candidates for 2022-23
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IcemanJoe</b></div><div>All indications are they’re not re-signing Dumba so a trade now or at the deadline seems likely. Fan value on Dumba seems much great than actual value for Dumba. BG has tried to trade Dumba for over 2 years and hasn’t found a taker.</div></div>

I think Dumba brings some great qualities to the Wild. I just don't think it's worked here and a new environment might do the trick. This whole roster has underachieved and Dumba has been here for the entire ride. Brodin is another. Spurgeon is another. Those 3 have been around for the Parise and Suter era and not being able to get it done. That's half our D-core and they have all shown break downs at different times in the playoffs. We need some new and fresh blood on the back end and we have some great prospects coming up. I want to see what Addison can do in a season. He's played well for us in his short stints. Lambos has developed really well and has some great upside on the left side. I don't like log jamming the left side up with long term deals. Brodin is on a 6 year deal. They have Merrill on a 3 year deal and soon to be signing Middleton. A Dumba move allows the core to retool over the cap hell years. Addison deserves a shot. If he doesn't turn out to be the guy we think he can be, we have Faber and can trade Addison. But Addison deserves a shot.
Forum: Armchair-GM3 juill. 2022 à 15 h 26
Sujet: Experiment
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazWild</b></div><div>Doesn't matter.

That's what would of been offered.

Boldy, Rossi, and Wallstedt are all off limits given the fact that there is no one in the top ten in this years draft who is worth moving them for this year.

Not one.

Logan Cooley is the only one with the potential upside to be a franchise center out of this draft and that is a very risky assumption to bet on. Moving any of those three to do it and take that gamble is moronic and would only hurt the team in the long run.</div></div>

What do you see the Wild achieving in the next 3 years? Average at best? The D-core is signed to long term deals yet we trade for young talent at those positions. Our wingers are now average. I think Kaprizov and Boldy are top line wingers and we don't have much coming up in the ranks in terms of talent. There is always talent available so I'm not as worried about the wingers as I am with the center position. I get the fact we should move off of no 2. But I'm tired of being average or not being able to run with teams because our centers are below average. Looking at the roster for next season we have a log jam at centers that have proven they can't cut it in the playoffs and no wiggle room without moves. I don't want to see Freddy in the top 6. Hartman had an unreal year but maybe he slots in next to Boldy on that second line and brings the same mentality he did last year. There's a lot of holes in this roster and it's filled with guys that haven't proven they can do anything in the playoffs. Why are we so loyal to them? If we are average for the next 3 years Kaprizov mostly likely walks. If he walks you are looking at a massive rebuild, instead of making trades now to ensure that doesn't happen. The time to make moves is now and set us up for coming out of this cap hell the right way. Maybe we don't trade for no 2, but we need some plan for a center that helps us compete with the likes of the AVs and others.

I agree that Rossi, Boldy and Wallstedt are untouchable. Everyone else could be had.
Forum: Armchair-GM13 juin 2022 à 22 h 8
Sujet: 4 peat
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Have u looked at their team? They’re looking to clear cap not add. Boldy probably would be one of the last 3 guys to ever get traded</div></div>

You are correct. I don't see a way Boldy would get traded without a massive, and I mean massive overpayment. It wouldn't make sense to trade him. I think I would do Middleton and Khusnutsdinov for Serg. I like Khusnutsdinov a lot but we don't have a guy like Sergachev. I think he could bring experience to this roster. He's Russian and could pair well with Kaprizov. Our D has not shown up much the past few playoffs. I think we need a big shake up. I like that trade for you guys too. You clear cap and Middleton has been a really nice add here in Minnesota. He could probably save you a few million in cap space.
Forum: Armchair-GM12 juin 2022 à 18 h 12
Sujet: Ducks Offseason Attempt and Mock Draft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wildnochance</b></div><div>Minnesota wouldn't. We have wallstedt.. so we will just keep Talbot for 1 year or resign Fleury or bring back up to Talbot for 1 to two years.</div></div>

I'd say the windows just don't match up. Gibson is a beast and can steal games in the playoffs. I understand why the Ducks might move him but he is an incredible goalie. I think Minnesota is looking at a bridge of 3 years until Wallstedt takes over full time. He will most likely spend all season in the AHL and transition to back up after that. 2 years at back up would be good to protect him before taking over at age 22-23. I think it would depend on the direction BG wants to go. Are we going for the playoffs this year or rebuilding/retooling for a few years before making some serious pushes. No one knows yet.
Forum: Armchair-GM12 juin 2022 à 18 h 7
Sujet: Potential Fiala Bids V2
A pretty weak draft class this year. I think you have starting points on most of these deals. I think unless you go for #2 this year, anything else I may want to push to next year if it's an option. Maybe Ottawa doesn't do that but most of them would push to next year as the pick would probably turn out to be a lower pick. A lot of this speculation is also contingent on what path BG wants to go. Is he building to make a push under the cap restraints or is he building for 2-3 years out? No one knows this and won't until Fiala or others are traded.

The Kings deal is probably too much value coming to Minnesota. I like Turcotte and wishing him the best but thats a big questions mark coming back. 2 concussions in a season is scary. No matter who he plays with I hope he gets back to 100%. I would think Turcotte and a 1st would be the max LA is willing to go but it would be nice to switch prospects and get a RHD prospect for one of our LHD as part of it. If Minnesota do a physical on him and think he will bounce back, he could be really good here with the talent on the wings that we have now.

The Carolina deal seems to be fair. Carolina will argue that Necas has a high ceiling but he's projecting to be a 50 point producer in a full season which he has not had. Unprotected 1st really doesn't mean anything because Carolina is pushing for the cup each year. I do think that salary cap is going to be an issue for them because they have so much talent so they may not want to take this trade on because of that. BG has to decide if this team is going to push for a cup next year because if they are it may hurt the returns we get for Fiala. By saying that, we might get a bigger return if we take a 1st, great prospect and a "bad contract". Doesn't have to be a terrible contract but maybe one Carolina wants to move on from.

Ottawa's deal is not my favorite. Greig is still small for the NHL, I think he is listed at 160 pounds at age 20. I'm worried about playoffs and getting pushed off the puck. 7th overall is great if you love someone in that area. At the end of the day I feel you are losing this trade heavily but getting pieces that you hope one day help out. Greig will need another year in the AHL if that is his weight, and the 7th overall would be about 2-3 years out from helping the squad. I think its better to go after a trade like, Pinto and a 2nd or something along this type. You get a guy you can put on your squad next year and a prospect in a 3ish years. Again it depends on the direction BG wants to go.

Islanders are very intriguing and might help us drive the price up between them and NJD. I like Wahlstrom and a first a lot. I'm also intrigued by Raty. He is a center and we are in desperate need of center talent. 13th overall is probably one you could package to move around and maybe move up a bit if a guy slides this year. I think Barzal and Fiala would be fun to watch as well!

I think both Montreal and Anaheim are in the same boat. Both are rebuilding and have top tier talent but Fiala isn't landing you anything close to that. In Anaheim's case I would be asking for Mason McTavish. Ducks would laugh at you and hang up but it's going to take something they probably don't want to give up to get this done. Perreault will need time to develop more but he can snipe it from anywhere. If he can't figure out the 200 ft game it will hurt him in the long run.
Montreal there isn't much in terms of prospects that are realistic. You would probably go with Guhle to potentially be your number 1 defense men. Montreal isn't looking at trading a prospect like that for Fiala and the fact they got the number 1 means their pick is a no go. Depending on where Montreal see's themselves in a year you might ask for next year but if they are at the bottom like they were this year that won't be available either. Also I hate having terms on the pick, if we did trade Fiala for next years 1st and the conditions are met and gets pushed back, we are looking at 3 drafts from now until you get that pick. I'm personally against this but I understand why teams do it. It would be a deal breaker with me.

Lastly, NJD is a very hard trade to make. At least on here it is. The Wild should target 2nd overall or Holtz/Mercer/L. Hughes. We should be aiming high. I think out of that bunch the 2nd overall is the most likely but we shouldn't settle for their 8th best prospect and next years 1st. They will be a power house for years to come so I don't want anything to do with their future 1sts. Reports say NJD is the most likely to land Fiala so I have to assume Fitz is ok giving up one of these plus more to get Fiala. Time will tell.

I think when it comes down to it, Islanders makes a ton of sense with one of Raty/Wahlstrom and their 1st coming to Minnesota. If the NJD traded the 2nd overall for Fiala straight up, NJD are in such a great place they shouldn't even worry about who won. They have a 80+ point player to team up on the second line. It changes that entire team with depth scoring. They have talent still coming up to make this team so they aren't done growing either.
Forum: Armchair-GM26 mai 2022 à 16 h 50
Sujet: Fiala NYI ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>qc14</b></div><div>First, I will assume all of these trades come with Fiala being extended / an understanding between him and the isles to extend long term.

Isles would come out on top in all three of these trades. Using Reinhart as a comp, a higher 1st and a better prospect in raty vs levi is made up for by the fact that fiala is a better player than reinhart. Walhstrom's best case scenario is that he is Fiala in 2-3 years, pick #64 doesn't really move the needle that much. Beauvillier is a middle six forward who has not cracked 40 points in a season.

Fiala won't get the 2oa package or 3 first round picks that minnesota fans want for him, but all of these would be more than fair, and I think could probably be outbid by NJ, OTT, BUF, or other teams interested.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dannibalcorpse</b></div><div>Realized I missed the first part

I think Beau for Fiala isn't nearly enough, but I think Beau &amp; 13OA for Fiala might be a little much. I would think about doing Beau and 13OA for Fiala &amp; Kulikov as fair for both sides. Isles get their top line winger and a solid LD2 who's been made expendable in Minnesota with Brodin/Goligoski/Middleton being a solid depth chart there. I think Wild fans would like Beauvillier - he's a fast skater with good handles, doesn't hurt you defensively, and is a 20 goal scorer - his shooting percentage tanked this season which makes his numbers look worse. I think putting him on the 2nd line with Gaudreau &amp; Boldy would be a solid offensive line. And the lottery pick would give Minnesota another young asset to potentially bring up in the next year or 2. I'd think about adding a prospect in, but it feels like the Isles best non-Raty/Wahlstrom prospects don't really line up with Minnesota - if they don't have room for Kulikov, Robin Salo wouldn't make sense. I'm sure Lou would throw in a guy like Bode Wilde if you want to see if you can get his head on straight, but beyond that there is not a lot of excitement in the Isles pipeline.</div></div>

Both of you make great points. Dannibalcorpse, your post was very thoughtful and useful. The Wild need the Fiala trade to make sense. I'd be fine getting a younger player that makes sense. Really Judd Brackett needs to put his stamp of approval on the trade if we are looking at a high end prospect. To me, I would go for players like Aatu Raty, Turcotte or Holtz as the main piece. While getting a high draft pick is great, that prospect might take 2-3 years to develop and we would be getting close to Kaprizov's second contract with the Wild. We don't know how that would go. So to me, it makes me want to add a player that has upside and is close to contributing this year or next to help us push for the cup and keep Kaprizov here long term. Trading for projects means we risk going into a full rebuild and being forced to trade Kaprizov and you don't win any Kaprizov trade out there.
Forum: Armchair-GM25 mai 2022 à 19 h 39
Sujet: yuh yuh
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HeadHighSauce</b></div><div>I have outlined my opinions in good faith literally in every comment. I have explained to you why I think Fiala /deserves/ lowball offers. Seems good faith to me man.

This one isn't even that lowball! two cheap prospects (a former first rounder and massive NHL ready DMan at that) and a top 50 pick is in line with recent comparable trades</div></div>

The problem with most and almost all Fiala deals to NJD is you are coming at it with low balling us because of the cap space. BG is not going to get low balled or fleeced in a Fiala deal. The Wild will be looking for a high value target, maybe only one piece but a quality piece they believe in. So a deal like Holtz for Fiala straight up. Or the 2nd overall pick. Giving 3 pieces that don't make a difference now will not work. Our prospect system is top 3 so giving us 3 average pieces doesn't help. We have Beckman that is more proven then Stillman, D that are more talented than Bahl and a second round pick. I'd rather see Lambos than Bahl right now to be honest. At the end of the day, neither of us makes the trade so it doesn't matter what either thinks. If I'm BG, I just don't listen to the Devils if they are offering me this and I work on deals with LA and Ottawa. And both parties will probably be happy. You didn't give up stuff you didn't want and we didn't trade him for your scraps your offering.