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Armchair-GM
27 juill. 2023 à 7 h 39
Sujet:
Bunch a Jerks
Haven’t looked at the numbers but take out the goalies and I’d do this. I don’t think it will happen but I’d do it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 juill. 2023 à 13 h 19
Sujet:
It only makes sense
Canes decline because they don’t want to shell out 9-10m for Nylander.
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Armchair-GM
8 juill. 2023 à 13 h 15
Sujet:
All In Shove
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Affectionate_Side_64</b></div><div>nylander at 9, Pesce at 7.5? Maybe more. And trust me, I'm fully aware, but we've both failed for different reasons. You guys are one of the best defensive teams in the league, we are one of the best forward groups in the league.</div></div>
Canes won’t pay Pesce that much. And don’t want to pay Nylander that much.
And they won’t have to in order to improve.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 juill. 2023 à 13 h 12
Sujet:
All In Shove
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>Goal scoring is exactly what they need. Bunting isn't as good as you will be hoping he is.</div></div>
Again…plenty of cheaper alternatives.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 juill. 2023 à 13 h 11
Sujet:
All In Shove
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Affectionate_Side_64</b></div><div>I's say 1.5 max. Anyway, your team just got swept scoring 6 goals in 4 games but I guess you're probably fine.</div></div>
Your math is off.
And I’m not sure you want to get into a war of words over playoff failures bruh
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 juill. 2023 à 9 h 55
Sujet:
All In Shove
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Affectionate_Side_64</b></div><div>Fair enough, but Pesce isn't going to cost you much less.</div></div>
I wish I lived in your world where 2-3m isn’t ‘much less’
But this is why Pesce will be traded and not for assets that cost as much or more than he’ll cost. That defeats the whole point.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 juill. 2023 à 9 h 49
Sujet:
All In Shove
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Affectionate_Side_64</b></div><div>They don't need goals, just scoring. Aho had one point against the Panthers, I think you guys could use another at upfront.</div></div>
Not at $9-10m and giving up assets. There are cheaper alternatives
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 juill. 2023 à 9 h 43
Sujet:
All In Shove
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>Necas is a good player but he's not elite. Nylander will forever be dumpstered by you guys. I can't wait until he resigns and this nonsense finally ends.</div></div>
No one wants to jump in and commit to 9-10m for anyone right now. It’s not that Nylander isn’t a great scorer, it’s that it’s not worth losing all your financial flexibility for him.
Especially with Aho extension looming. 40 goals isn’t what the canes need…they were good enough to win the division without that, they need some scoring in the playoffs. That can be addressed for much less than what Nylander wants.
Hell with Svech returning and Bunting, it may already have been addressed
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Armchair-GM
8 juill. 2023 à 9 h 38
Sujet:
All In Shove
I just don’t see the Canes including Necas or Jarvis in any deals. Still ascending and relatively cheap. Given how tight the market has been their contracts represent exceptional value
Forum:
Armchair-GM
4 juill. 2023 à 18 h 15
Sujet:
Leaf in a Pickle
Leafs fans have to stop
The Canes do NOT need to trade for Nylander who has stated he expects 9-10m a year.
If they make an offer it won’t include more than one current roster player.
Pick a different team to try to bail you out
Forum:
Armchair-GM
4 juill. 2023 à 10 h 11
Sujet:
Fire
I keep seeing Tarasenko as a rumor but not confirmed.
If it’s either or I’d rather pursue EK even though it will cost a lot more (I’m good with the overpay here btw, EK is a game changer)
But I’m hoping Waddell can off load Turbo and make some cap magic happen to get both.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 juill. 2023 à 18 h 16
Sujet:
Nylander trade
Leafs fans have to stop with nylander to the Canes. It ain’t happening unless it’s a sign and trade and retain half of his $9-10m salary.
And you’re not getting anything more than Pesce straight up.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 juill. 2023 à 17 h 15
Sujet:
What is this team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>I speak for an organization that turned down Laine from the Jets coming off his best season in the NHL for Pesce and Necas. Jarvis, who straight up has more upside, and Pesce is comical.</div></div>
Bless your heart
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Armchair-GM
2 juill. 2023 à 14 h 32
Sujet:
Final Cgy after Hanifin trade with Shaggy signed
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Real_MC_Hockey</b></div><div>See https://www.capfriendly.com/trade-machine/26167 as that’s how smart Canes fans are about hockey…not it’s not me but mortal enemy Oilers fan….</div></div>
Neat
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 juill. 2023 à 13 h 34
Sujet:
What is this team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Orlov doesn't affect Pesce's value... what logic is that? Using that, Draisaitl worth as much as Kadri, because he's a 2nd line center in Alberta. That's the only similarity. Let's ignore the fact Orlov is a LD and PEsce is a RD, let's pretend that doesn't matter (it does). Pesce's better than Orlov...Pesce is a top 10 RD in the league, and he's cost effective. He often gets overlooked as so many Canes players do for a team that is consistently among the best in the NHL, but that isn't the issue here. Jarvis straight-up has the ability to be better than Nylander. He's already probably a better skater than Nylander, which says more about Jarvis than Nylander. His totals aren't a million miles away, and he's still just 21. This deal is awful for a dude the Canes know they wouldn't be able to re-sign because he's asking for more than 10 mil a year</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Loops</b></div><div>15,981 posts and still delusional and obviously biased. Your evaluation on Pesce is that of a biased fan and not of a professional scout. You don't sign Orlov for the kind of money he is making with the likes of Slavin, Burns, Skjei and be one of the front runners with Pittsburg for Erik Karlsson without taking a hit on the value of a guy you clearly need to trade now. It's fairly basic business, if you have a top 10 employee why are you looking to add others to take his spot? Now for your Seth Jarvis comments... is he a good player? Yes. Is he a top 6 forward? Yes. Will he ever put up the numbers Nylander is putting up? Probably not. Carolina is also in a win now mode which you get better results with Nylander than Jarvis at this point. Not to mention Nylander put up more goals than Jarvis did points this year and as a 21 year on an arguable worse team at the time, Nylander put up 61 points to Jarvis 39.
So I stand by what I said, Nylander for Pesce and Jarvis would be a terrible trade for Toronto at this point. Also, Nylander asking for over 10? You've got to stop reading blog posts from 12 year olds in their parents basement pretending to be hockey insiders my guy.</div></div>
He doesn’t speak for Canes fans.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 juill. 2023 à 13 h 5
Sujet:
What is this team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Terry_AkiSauce</b></div><div>How do the Canes have a lot more leverage?
Pesce didn't have his best season and is older while Nylander potted 40 and was a point per game. Not sure how they have equivalent value</div></div>
Come on now....you should know better
Trades aren't about swapping players who are 'equally good', it's about the value they bring to that specific team...and even more, the effect it has on the overall health of the franchise.
Toronto has no cap space and has to consider raises to two guys already making north of $10m. They have to move Nylander. And they want to improve their 'meh' defense.
So I'm sure the rebuttal will be....'but the Canes need more offense', which is partly true. But they had enough offense to win the division. Do they need Nylander's 40 goals in the regular season....not really. Do they need that scoring at the cost of probably more then $8m for at least 3 years, absolutely not.
Pesce will be cheaper to extend...so there you go, the inequity you were looking for.
But ok, so how are the Canes going to get the offense they need. Again, to be more accurate, they need more scoring in the playoffs.
With Svech coming back, and assuming improvement from a young core, and now adding Bunting, it's a fair assumption that playoff scoring will increase. It's not as if they need a ton of scoring, they were four goals away from the SCF.
And hey, if they are wrong and still need more scoring that will certainly be available at the deadline.
Also keep in mind, even with his 40+ goals, Nylander was only +10 in the regular season and -4 in the playoffs.
This isn't to say Nylander is not a great scorer....he is. But given the cost both in giving up Pesce and what it would it take to extend him....he doesn't represent exceptional value for the Canes.
With the embarrassment of riches on D, as well as some cap space remaining, the Canes don't need to target a rental or $8m x 3 year player....they can target someone younger, cheaper, who is a better two-way player.
It's just not a move the Canes have to make
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 juill. 2023 à 12 h 18
Sujet:
Obviously Never Ever Going To Happen
Love it. But no not gonna happen. But love the effort
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 juill. 2023 à 12 h 11
Sujet:
What is this team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Terry_AkiSauce</b></div><div>Pesce isn't equal to Nylander though</div></div>
Canes have a lot more leverage and Pesce is as good at what he does as Nylander is at what he does.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
2 juill. 2023 à 12 h 7
Sujet:
What is this team
Canes don’t accept. But no it’s not terrible.
It’s simple. Pesce, Nylander 1 for 1 assuming both agree to extensions.
You’re not getting Jarvis also.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
30 juin 2023 à 19 h 12
Sujet:
Canes FA
I like all of this but Canes will need to take on more of EKs salary. Which they can do
Forum:
Armchair-GM
30 juin 2023 à 19 h 9
Sujet:
Bertuzzi
Canes decline
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Armchair-GM
30 juin 2023 à 19 h 8
Sujet:
How the 2023-2024 Canucks make the playoffs
Remove the draft pick and canes accept
Forum:
Armchair-GM
30 juin 2023 à 13 h 38
Sujet:
Duchene wood pesce
Canes decline
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 juin 2023 à 10 h 50
Sujet:
Connie Pls
Turn the 1st rd pick into a 3rd (maybe 2nd) and canes accept
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 juin 2023 à 8 h 20
Sujet:
saros pesce
Canes decline
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