Think this is high hopes, if this was the offer and all parties agreed to the move it would have been done already.

If we're in on Pesce I'm hoping we don't move this years pick. Could be a top 15. I'd give them Tampa's pick in 2025

Canes aren’t going to consider that. First of all, Koochie is a non starter. And with TDA back, Karlsson is redundant. No reason to make the trade now.

Haven’t looked at the numbers but take out the goalies and I’d do this. I don’t think it will happen but I’d do it.

Karlsson is not worth that much. Take Kochetkov and Drury off and it likely would then be a conversation "maybe" - Pesce is moveable, but I really don't think the Canes are all that in on EK anymore - I think DeAngelo fills the "plays good offense and bad Defense" void. I also think the Canes are a lot more likely to move Skjei because Slavin and Orlov are top 2 LD for at least the next 2 years and we aren't going to pay a 3rd pairing D $5-7MM.

Also, that would be exceptionally rude to send Turbo to Chicago after how they treated him when he was there before.

Hawks probably decline. Can't see them spending a 2nd for one year of Turbo.

HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLL No. we dont need an unproven 30 year old on a bad contract.

Which player are you referring to?

Seems fair. We paid a 2nd for seven years.