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Forum: Armchair-GM9 juin 2023 à 10 h 27
Sujet: Columbus is going for it
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SK101</b></div><div>Wasn’t counting Hughes as he graduated. He’s better than edvinsson for sure and was way better than nemec in the AHL last year. They are all great but jiricek just demolished the points record for an 18 year old defenseman in the AHL. Jiricek still needs to add strength but so far he’s projecting to be a 1RD</div></div>

Hughes has played 5 NHL games; Jiricek has played 4.

Ed was at 0.52 PPG while Jiricek was at 0.69. Ed's team had 13% less GF than Jiricek's. Obviously Jiricek gets the nod here as better offensively, but Ed's game isn't all about offense as he's extremely well rounded and certainly looked good with his time in Detroit. That's not to say Jiricek isn't good all over the ice, it's just that Ed's leading strength isn't offense whereas Jiricek's is.

In 5 years, once Ed has grown into his body and fully adjusted to it, it will be an interesting debate for the 6oa picks in consecutive draft years, especially if you don't consider offense as the #1 factor in who is the best defenseman.
Forum: Armchair-GM9 juin 2023 à 7 h 51
Sujet: Who Are Our Fabbri Trade Partners
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy12Bob</b></div><div>Fabbri is the wrong player to trade.

Yes, we have too many left shooting wingers but Fabbri is the one of them that will bring the least return in any trade (except maybe Zadina). The obvious player to offer other teams is Kubalík, he scores just us much as Fabbri, he's healthy and have not had three knee injuries, his cap cost is half of Fabbri's.

What we can get back for Kubalík is going to be vastly more beneficial to the team than what we can get back for Fabbri.

Neither Fabbri nor Kubalík are are defensive stalwarts, they're both similar in their playing style and production. Both are somewhat one dimensional players that need to be sheltered in sniping roles and PP-roles. We only need, and have room for, one of them and the one to trade is the one that gives us the best return in any trade and that is Kubalík.</div></div>

Oh, don't get me wrong, I want to move both. Fabbri is just the more complicated of the two :squintytongue
Forum: Armchair-GM8 juin 2023 à 8 h 19
Sujet: Blues 2point0
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy12Bob</b></div><div>These are two good trades for Detroit. Konecny will be valuable for many years. Swayman is not as much of a priority and should this offer be rejected that's not significant.

You do need to find a true top line left winger in addition to these two. We're now well covered on the right side with Konecny, Raymond, Perron, Mazur. The left side only has a bunch of middle six players in Berggren, Söderblom, Kubalík, Fabbri, Rasmussen.

Kasper is better served playing top line centre in GR than playing wing in Detroit. You should play Chiarot on the right side and Määttä on the left.</div></div>

Appreciate the feedback!

Don't forget that we still have 9oa in this scenario which can be used on Leonard/Moore/Benson or someone intriguing who drops out of the top 8. That pick would be written into our top 6 LW slot in the future. I have Mazur written into the other T6 LW slot (as he's a right shot LW, not a RW).

Your opinion on Kasper isn't one that I share, but that's OK. I would prefer for him to get acclimated to the NHL schedule playing 2nd line minutes with two really good vets such as ROR &amp; Perron than have him in the AHL, even if he's on the wing. Don't forget that Larkin started on the wing and has come along just fine as a C.
Forum: Armchair-GM7 juin 2023 à 10 h 45
Sujet: Playing with Ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sk540</b></div><div>The thinking here in my opinion is a 1st and 2nd for each and then zadina and fabbri for each. I think TK's value is around the 1st and 2nd and Zadina as a reclamation project. However, Fabbri and a 1st and 2nd for Hart is not quite the value I'd be looking for for Hart. I think to trade Hart, some team will need to overpay - which in and of itself may be impossible because historically goalie trades don't offer the value you want. Maybe Schneider for the 7th overall several years ago, but you usually don't see it.

This is why I'm in the group of people that think no way Hart is traded. Only way is if a GM completely overpays. Like if Stevie Y included another 1st or Wallinder, it would be tough to walk away. Or if EDM offered their 1st and 2nds over the next 3 years (two 1sts and two 2nds), Bouchard, Yamamoto, and Bourgault. Or like AZ offering 3 firsts and Cooley. Like these deals would never happen, and we're not giving him up for any less than an amazing value, so I don't think it's gonna happen IMO.</div></div>

I see what you're saying, and I agree that none of those will happen. Historically, goalies have very little trade value. Even Hasek, when traded to Detroit, was worth a late 1st (30oa) + Kozlov (at the time a 28yo middle six forward). Other examples...

- Husso traded for a 3rd
- Vanecek + #46 for #37 + 3rd
- Grubauer + Orpik dump = 2nd
- Bobrovsky = 2nd + 2nd + 4th

Bob is probably the best comparable for Hart, as this was during his ELC before signing any high-AAV contracts. I think getting a 1st + is a very big deal for a goalie, just based on history (not that I agree with it!).
Forum: Armchair-GM2 juin 2023 à 21 h 48
Sujet: Subtle Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OilednGreasy</b></div><div>I'd suggest Draisaitl at centre over McDavid. Leon slows play down while attracting attention that tends to give linemates more time to get into scoring positions, and he can seemingly get passes through anywhere. Kostin looked pretty good when given that opportunity last season.
You have to make good decisions very quickly at both ends of the ice when playing with McDavid, and that can be tough on young players I think.
Pulling it off with higher quality guys means against higher quality guys too.

I think It takes a certain type of player with McDavid is maybe a better way to put it than lower level. A player that would be good with Larkin I'd expect to play well enough with McDavid though too.

How much has Zadina played with Larkin?</div></div>

Good breakdown and I think a good assessment.

Unfortunately, Z hasn't really gotten time with Larkin since his sophomore year. And it went poorly. Zadina was trying to find a groove at that point, Bertuzzi (the line's written in LW) was hurt 75% of the year, and the actual LW was a revolving door of bottom 6 players (Brome, Gagner, Namestnikov, Mantha; Fabbri was the best of the bunch and Vrana found great success in limited time together). Therefore, all the attention was put on attacking Larkin and a very young Zadina. It didn't work out for these reasons (though Vrana/Z should've joined Larkin again and never did for unknown reasons) and they have thrown him mostly on the 4th line since. 😒