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Forum:
Armchair-GM
mer. à 9 h 19
Sujet:
Doing All 32 Teams Realistic Offseasons Sharks
Why are the Sharks adding Kostin and Benning? What Edmonton is sending over is basically the cost of just moving Campbell's contract (14th overall is the draft pick cost - so mid 20's pick plus Bourgault plus 4th is probably equal to 14th overall). For SJ to have to be adding value doesn't make a lot of sense.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 avr. à 16 h 2
Sujet:
Crosby another ring
Of course the Sharks would love to give assets for a 30+ year old with term after their entire plan as an org the last 2 years has been to get rid of as many of those as possible. Sharks wouldn't even take Rakell for free let alone 42nd overall.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
17 avr. à 15 h 58
Sujet:
Markstrom Hayes and trading down
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>I wouldn't move from 10th to 14th for anything less than a late 1st (Post lottery with no change) which may be too much for a team to swallow. NJ is going get a core piece of their future at 10 IMO. Not sure they will at 14. Not saying that is "fair" value just that it would have to be absurd value to make that downgrade. IMHO the top 10 are locks. May even extend to 12 but after that I feel there is a drop off. Not necessarily in talent but in likelihood of reaching potential.
Kind of reminds me of the 2011 draft. If you got top 10, you don't trade down.</div></div>
This is a draft where anything from 5-15 or so is about the same prospect caliber. It will all just be down to preference, which is why I don't think there are going to be a lot of teams looking to make big moves up the board unless a guy you have super high happens to fall 5+ spots. Pretty much everyone outside of Celebrini has a real wart to their game that makes them very risky (which is why this is viewed as a pretty weak draft class).
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 avr. à 19 h 45
Sujet:
shot in the dark
"We showed that your failed player might not suck like he appeared when he played for you, but we will gladly take your garbage cap dump D-Man and a 7th rounder for him out of the kindness of our heart."
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 mars à 18 h 8
Sujet:
Mock
It's Levshunov if we lose the lottery (NHL owes SJ one to finally give the 1st overall to us instead of rigging another Original 6 or Canadian team).
Aside from that, the key to the offseason is leveraging as much cap space as possible into as many assets as possible. Even with your lineup of 27 skaters and 3 goalies, the Sharks would still be under the lower limit of the salary cap. Ownership has never had a problem spending to the cap, so time to take on either some short term dog crap contracts for a nice fee or acquire some bargains in the trade market from teams that can't afford to keep a good player.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 févr. à 14 h 53
Sujet:
trade deadline 5
3 non-prospects and a 2nd rounder over a year away isn't getting that deal done for SJ.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
30 janv. à 10 h 4
Sujet:
Jiricek
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DFinn91</b></div><div>These responses are crazy lol. Jiricek was drafted 6th overall 1.5 years ago. He’s a 20 year old super skilled RD with size who you could put into your lineup right now. He’s #34 in The Athletic’s Under 23 Rankings. He’s got a good chance to be a legit #1.
The Sharks give up a good package, but you’ve got to give to get. If the Sharks could bring in Jiricek without having to give up any of their own 1sts, Smith, Eklund, or Mukh that would be a great move.
If the Sharks get some lottery luck, just think of a Celebrini, Smith, Eklund, Jiricek, and Mukh core.</div></div>
It's the almost 4 1st rounders of value that is the issue. A realistic deal would be Ferraro + Bordeleau + Pittsburgh 1st (top 15 protected). Can maybe add a filler piece somewhere, but the core of the trade is an NHL D-Man, 1st round pick, and middle of the road prospect with upside. Maybe that is a 4th or something like that instead, but rarely do you see non-established elites getting dealt for a package that includes that sort of ammunition.
It's adding on Musty (just came off being a 1st rounder and playing above his mid 20's draft slot in a loaded draft), and the 33rd or 34th overall pick that is the overpay. You're putting a package together that is worth more than the Sharks got for Timo Meier as an established 30+ goal scorer in this league (Muk = Musty, Ferraro > Zetterlund, PIT 1st > NJD 1st, SJ 2nd > NJD 2nd - or equal if NJD makes the conference finals and it moves to 29-32).
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 janv. à 12 h 38
Sujet:
Jiricek
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CaseyFlyman</b></div><div>He is though, or at least significantly better than every other option he's getting scratched for (Peeke and Gudbranson mainly). Management completely f***ing him over and playing for a team where coaching has done no one any favors isn't helping. But he also has not requested out, or even hinted at it.</div></div>
And still not worth Ferraro (1st round value or very very close to it), Musty (just drafted 1st round 7 months ago and having a great D+1 season), an actual 1st rounder (Pittsburgh pick), and an almost 1st rounder (SJ 2nd rounder that will be 33-35 overall).
There are few players out there that are worth that sort of haul.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 janv. à 10 h 5
Sujet:
Jiricek
Equivalent of 3 firsts and a pick around 33 or 34? Absolutely the heck not. Must be out of your mind.
If Jiricek was worth that, he would be a surefire NHLer right now and not teetering back and forth and requesting out...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
19 janv. à 16 h 28
Sujet:
Let me know how I can change it to be more fair
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AStovetop</b></div><div>I wouldn't do it for just 2 3rds. Goalie market is apparently very high prices. Honestly I wouldn't do it for less than a 1st if cap dumps are going back the other way</div></div>
Meh, Samsonov is on an expiring contract and Reaves is able to be almost entirely buried if push came to shove. Blackwood isn't exactly an elite goalie. If you did Samsonov + Reaves + 1st, I think that is an absolute steal for the Sharks given the acquisition cost of Blackwood is next to nothing and you can use that 1st to go trade for a starter in the offseason.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 janv. à 9 h 13
Sujet:
Lets try again
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyManiac95</b></div><div>Tbh maybe. The real problem with RyJo in Colorado is he doesn't have the speed to keep up with the top 6 guys. Should be better for him in SJ.</div></div>
Why would SJ be giving any assets for any player that is not a prospect or under 25 type? Worst team in the league in the middle of rebuilding and giving assets for a washed 31 year old to bail your team out of cap hell? That's lunacy. Johansen at $4M has negative value and would require assets to move at this point of his career.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 juill. 2023 à 8 h 21
Sujet:
stanley cup champions
The whole point of the 3 way deal from SJ's perspective is to have the third team retain additional salary on Karlsson.
You're not getting Pesce at 50% retention for 2 crappy prospects, a cap dump, and a 1st round pick... If you want to retain an additional $2-3M on Karlsson's contract in addition to what SJ is retaining then maybe you'll get Pesce for that package, but there is no reason for Edmonton to be gifted a valuable piece for nothing.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 juin 2023 à 11 h 55
Sujet:
hoping that unreliable sources rumour is true
NJD pick is a 1st if they make WCF so Sharks decline.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 juin 2023 à 8 h 56
Sujet:
offersheets LAK and EDM
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>fil97</b></div><div>which is perfect! take out the 5th if you like</div></div>
$5M contracts for 2 years cost more than a 3rd round pick to move. If you want to call the deal Granlund + 14th overall for Gregor and 36th overall then maybe that is more appropriate value.
That or take the SJ picks out altogether and SJ just sends Barabanov for Granlund + 14th overall.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
27 juin 2023 à 8 h 46
Sujet:
offersheets LAK and EDM
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>fil97</b></div><div>i didn't lol</div></div>
Sort of did though. If you use the trade value chart in the Athletic, the GSVA that SJ gave up is 4.1 in draft picks while Pittsburgh gave up 5.1 + Granlund. This trade is basically saying that it would only cost an early-ish 3rd round pick to dump Granlund's money for the next 2 years (which is too low).
Forum:
Armchair-GM
26 juin 2023 à 9 h 38
Sujet:
Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GolfBall</b></div><div>Respectfully I disagree. Karlsson is a great player who wants out and has a boat anchor contract. He played great last year and not so great with health issues prior. At full cost it's a huge gamble no one will take. If Murray stays healthy it's a 1 year hit for a good goalie. If he doesn't it's LTIR money. Liljegren has good potential. Niemela and Hirvonen are no cost sweeteners who might work out. This trade gives the Sharks flexibility.</div></div>
Add the Boston 1st rounder and the 2024 1st rounder and maybe you're onto something. Without any draft picks, this trade is just laughably bad.
Think about how much 1 year of Marleau at ~$6.5M cost Toronto to move 3-4 years ago to Carolina. That was a 1st round pick to move 1 year of that amount of money. Now think about asking a team to eat almost that amount of money plus take a cap dump for basically a 2nd or 3rd pair tweener in Liljegren and some throw in scraps. Doesn't even begin to talk about the value of the actual Norris winner you're acquiring in the process as well. Simply on the principle of money involved this is a terrible trade for SJ.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
20 juin 2023 à 10 h 18
Sujet:
these guys desperately need to tear it all the way down
$9M a year in dead cap through 2026-27 and being devoid of all retention slots for future moves the next 2 seasons is likely a non-starter. Having to retain on Karlsson is fine. Retaining $3M on Couture is unnecessary with the cap increasing next year. Whoever would trade for him simply just needs to make it work this year with sending a short-term bad contract and then they're on their own for 2024-25 when the cap starts to bounce back.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
15 juin 2023 à 8 h 58
Sujet:
The athletic mock draft
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buffbry9108</b></div><div>Pens trade 31 for barabanov not 17</div></div>
Would agree as a Sharks fan. Or if it is 17th overall coming for him, Pittsburgh gets to toss in a 1 year cap dump type of guy to SJ or SJ tosses in Gregor, Labanc, or the CAR 3rd rounder (not sure how cap would work on Labanc) to justify the move up in picks. Or PIT could just cut out the middle man and trade Granlund and 14th overall to SJ for Barabanov since that is effectively the way that the deal played out.
Would love to get another 1st rounder ahead of the NJD pick at 26th overall. Combine that with the 36th overall pick and you have lots of ammunition to move up and down the draft board for whatever guy(s) you want. Can rebuild a prospect pool quickly that way.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 juin 2023 à 16 h 49
Sujet:
trapp
Why would the Sharks do this? A pair of 26 year olds that are bottom 6 guys at best for possibly one of the 5 best bargain contract in the league in Barabanov.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 juin 2023 à 15 h 17
Sujet:
insane 3 way trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JeffGorton</b></div><div>You were complaining about 3m for 2 years in another post about Armia because the market is small but the Sharks get an out on an overpaid 2nd liner whos contract ends when hes 36 when the team is just starting a rebuild, and actually receive assets for him without retention suddenly makes no sense to you</div></div>
Sharks give up the only legit player in the whole deal and are somehow the team moving back in the draft.
Value to move from 4 to 5 is at minimum 5 + 31. So your deal is saying that the value of a top 6 center that has produced at a 68 points per 82 rate for the last 5 years (4 of those being on one of the worst teams in the NHL) is 37th overall and a LHD (which SJ already has literally 11 signed to contracts next year).
If somehow SJ got the same package but were the team moving up to 3rd overall, that deal would make sense. But in this scenario, SJ is giving up 2 of the 3 best assets and getting minimal back in return.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 juin 2023 à 15 h 10
Sujet:
Pens 23-24
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Megalodon</b></div><div>Why is SJ adding the higher pick? Really bad for Sharks here, lower pick, worse goaltender and an oft injured defenseman. Not close.</div></div>
Was going to say, taking 30+ year olds and giving up a higher draft pick makes no sense for the already acknowledged rebuilding team...
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 juin 2023 à 12 h 30
Sujet:
Kings Load Up and Swing For It
SJ passes. Not blowing the last 2 retention slots on two players for a division foe (especially when one of those is needed for a Karlsson deal).
Forum:
Armchair-GM
14 juin 2023 à 9 h 4
Sujet:
Roster Shakeup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>Sharks pass, 3rd for a backup is a bit rich</div></div>
Especially given its a rebuilding team that isn't up against the cap. No reason to pay for a backup goalie at Desmith's age.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
13 juin 2023 à 8 h 48
Sujet:
Smell yea Nugge
2 cap dumps and an ECHL player for a 2nd and 4th plus giving over a good bottom 6 center as well? Hard pass.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
22 mai 2023 à 19 h 55
Sujet:
How Swede It Is
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JoeROFLCOPTER</b></div><div>6 mil in retention lol</div></div>
Plus 3 cap dumps as well. Sharks taking on $15 million in basically dead money between retention, Ceci, Foegele, and Yamamoto for this deal and only getting 2 future late 1st rounders, a 24 year old mediocre minor league LD (have about 8 of those competing for the NHL roster already next year), and a B/C prospect that had a meh first year as a pro.
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