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Créé par: Grievous
Équipe: 2023-24 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 22 mai 2023
Publié: 22 mai 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Accurate/Prorated
LTIR activée: Non
Journées à la saison: 186
Journées restantes: 185
Saison restante: 99%
Masse salariale projetée avant les jours restants Info-bulle : 77 530 000 $
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
13 250 000 $
11 250 000 $
2775 000 $
3850 000 $
3800 000 $
2775 000 $
3775 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
31 600 000 $
52 500 000 $
1817 500 $
3800 000 $
2775 000 $
Transactions
1.
EDM
  1. Coe, Brandon
  2. Hamaliuk, Dillon
  3. Karlsson, Erik (5 750 000 $ retained)
  4. Choix de 7e ronde en 2023 (SJS)
  5. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (SJS)
SJS
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Ceci, Cody
  3. Foegele, Warren
  4. Niemeläinen, Markus
  5. Yamamoto, Kailer
  6. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
  7. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2023 (CBJ)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
Logo de EDM
Logo de CBJ
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de SJS
2024
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de NSH
Logo de SJS
2025
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2386 000 000 $84 422 742 $850 000 $1 500 000 $1 577 258 $
Masse salariale proratée

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
925 000 $920 027 $ (Bonis de performance650 000 $$650K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
12 500 000 $12 432 796 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 125 000 $5 097 446 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 125 000 $5 097 446 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
8 500 000 $8 454 301 $
C, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 500 000 $5 470 430 $
AD, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
800 000 $795 699 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
1 600 000 $1 591 398 $
C
UFA - 4
2 500 000 $2 486 559 $
AD, AG
UFA - 7
775 000 $770 833 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 250 000 $1 243 280 $
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
775 000 $770 833 $
C
RFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
9 250 000 $9 200 269 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Sharks de San Jose
4 250 000 $4 227 151 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 000 000 $4 973 118 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
6 000 000 $5 967 742 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 250 000 $3 232 527 $
DD
RFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 600 000 $2 586 022 $
G
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 750 000 $2 735 215 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
863 333 $858 691 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
762 500 $758 401 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
817 500 $813 105 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
775 000 $770 833 $
AD, C
RFA - 1

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22 mai 2023 à 16 h 9
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WAY too much retention, but the value of the return is closer to what the Sharks would be looking for.

I'm not totally ready to give up on Coe just yet though, I think guys like him take a bit longer to adjust to Pro since he was so much bigger physically than the guys in junior
22 mai 2023 à 16 h 10
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I appreciate keeping the dream alive but don't think SJ is going to ship Karlsson to the Oilers without Broberg coming back (with the assumption Bouchard is untouchable after his playoff performance). SJ needs quality RD prospects and are overloaded on LD. Also there's no way SJ is going to retain half, more like 18-30%, so realistically it'll have to involve a 3rd team if EDM isn't taking more contract on.
22 mai 2023 à 16 h 23
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6 mil in retention lol
22 mai 2023 à 17 h 10
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Broberg can barely play LD and you stick him on the Right side…..Also, Dylan Holloway couldn’t crack the Oilers line up in the playoffs and all of a sudden he’s top LW.

I think you might be disappointed come the start of next season, there is a real chance nether of these players on on the Oilers roster.
22 mai 2023 à 19 h 55
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
6 mil in retention lol


Plus 3 cap dumps as well. Sharks taking on $15 million in basically dead money between retention, Ceci, Foegele, and Yamamoto for this deal and only getting 2 future late 1st rounders, a 24 year old mediocre minor league LD (have about 8 of those competing for the NHL roster already next year), and a B/C prospect that had a meh first year as a pro.
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22 mai 2023 à 19 h 58
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Plus 3 cap dumps as well. Sharks taking on $15 million in basically dead money between retention, Ceci, Foegele, and Yamamoto for this deal and only getting 2 future late 1st rounders, a 24 year old mediocre minor league LD (have about 8 of those competing for the NHL roster already next year), and a B/C prospect that had a meh first year as a pro.


What a deal!!!
22 mai 2023 à 23 h 52
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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
6 mil in retention lol


If you look at this from the standpoint of ownership, this contract costs them $46,000,000 over the next 4 years. Even if they retain 50%, the Sharks are only on the hook for $13,000,000. By year 4 they only pay $750 K and overall they save $26,000,000. This might mean nothing to you, but in real life it does.

Regarding the players coming back, Bourgault might not be Steven Lorenz, but he is a significant prospect who has the potential to play anywhere in the lineup and in all situations. He will probably be at least a 20 goal scorer and a 50-60 point player, so 2nd line RW.

The other players will help to fill out the roster and perhaps help this team be more competitive and the 2 (potentially) 1st round picks aren’t nothing.

Finally, Karlsson holds all the cards. If he wants to move, he will be moved. However, you have to understand that the market is extremely limited to maybe 3 or 4 or possibly just 1 team. This deal is the best you will ever see for EK65.

In a couple years maybe he can be moved for a 4th line Center, a high 3rd round pick and a 2nd or 3rd tier prospect. If that is the case, enjoy!
22 mai 2023 à 23 h 56
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Quoting: SJS2212
Plus 3 cap dumps as well. Sharks taking on $15 million in basically dead money between retention, Ceci, Foegele, and Yamamoto for this deal and only getting 2 future late 1st rounders, a 24 year old mediocre minor league LD (have about 8 of those competing for the NHL roster already next year), and a B/C prospect that had a meh first year as a pro.


These are all players who will be 2nd or 3rd liners in San Jose. What the hell are you expecting?

It seems like you are setting yourself up for massive disappointment.
22 mai 2023 à 23 h 58
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23 mai 2023 à 0 h 9
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Broberg can barely play LD and you stick him on the Right side…..Also, Dylan Holloway couldn’t crack the Oilers line up in the playoffs and all of a sudden he’s top LW.

I think you might be disappointed come the start of next season, there is a real chance nether of these players on on the Oilers roster.


I’ve been watching this team a long time, including prospects in their leagues and in Bakersfield. Broberg is a significant talent and is playing the hardest position in the league. He will be better next season and even better in the next decade.

In fact your assessment is incorrect and these numbers back that up:

http://puckiq.com/woodmoney?season=20222023&positions=d&team=edm&group_by=player_season_team

I know Holloway is no Yamamoto, but he is a significant talent. What this team needs is youth on cheap contracts to produce. This kid is a good 2-way player and he is more experienced than last year. Underestimate him at your own peril.

But then again, you sound like an expert, so what do I know?
23 mai 2023 à 12 h 39
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Quoting: Grievous
I’ve been watching this team a long time, including prospects in their leagues and in Bakersfield. Broberg is a significant talent and is playing the hardest position in the league. He will be better next season and even better in the next decade.

In fact your assessment is incorrect and these numbers back that up:

http://puckiq.com/woodmoney?season=20222023&positions=d&team=edm&group_by=player_season_team

I know Holloway is no Yamamoto, but he is a significant talent. What this team needs is youth on cheap contracts to produce. This kid is a good 2-way player and he is more experienced than last year. Underestimate him at your own peril.

But then again, you sound like an expert, so what do I know?


Klefbom was an NHL prospect right out of the box, Broberg is nowhere near Klefbom. If Broberg was so good why did he play 6 minutes a game and only because of a suspension did he see 8 minutes a game.
He was so good and his numbers were so good he seen 46 games and averaged 7 minutes on ice.

Don’t be surprised if Broberg isn’t an Oiler come September

Holloway couldn’t crack the line up in the playoffs with Yamamoto as bad as he was, that should tell you something long time Oiler fan.
24 mai 2023 à 1 h 58
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Modifié 26 mai 2023 à 12 h 11
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Klefbom was an NHL prospect right out of the box, Broberg is nowhere near Klefbom. If Broberg was so good why did he play 6 minutes a game and only because of a suspension did he see 8 minutes a game.
He was so good and his numbers were so good he seen 46 games and averaged 7 minutes on ice.

Don’t be surprised if Broberg isn’t an Oiler come September

Holloway couldn’t crack the line up in the playoffs with Yamamoto as bad as he was, that should tell you something long time Oiler fan.


Yes Gronk, thank you for your opinion.

When Klefbom cracked that D-Corpse he had well past his prime (and 3rd pairing) Andrew Ference, Nikita Nitikin and Keith Aulie blocking him….this indicates to me that you don’t understand the situation, since the situation couldn’t be more different.

Holloway couldn’t crack the line-up because his $925,000 salary couldn’t fit and he was waiver exempt, and that’s why $750,000 Klim Kostin stayed on the roster and Holloway ended up in the AHL. The Oilers were also on a 14-0-1 streak, so why would the coach insert a rookie into the **PLAYOFF** line-up for no reason?

Also, it is rare to trade 1st rounders on their ELC’s, especially if the GM is the one who drafted them.

Who, in your opinion, are they getting traded for?

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/oilers-activate-yamamoto-from-ir-loan-holloway-and-desharnais-to-ahl/sn-amp/
24 mai 2023 à 18 h 34
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Yes Gronk, thank you for your opinion.

When Klefbom cracked that D-Corpse he had well past his prime (and 3rd pairing) Andrew Ference, Nikita Nitikin and Keith Aulie blocking him….this indicates to me that you don’t understand the situation, since the situation couldn’t be more different.

Holloway couldn’t crack the line-up because his $925,000 salary couldn’t fit and he was waiver exempt, and that’s why $750,000 Klim Kostin stayed on the roster and Holloway ended up in the AHL. The Oilers were also on a 14-0-1 streak, so why would the coach insert a rookie into the line-up for no reason?

Also, it is rare to trade 1st rounders on their ELC’s, especially if the GM is the one who drafted them.

Who, in your opinion, are they getting traded for?

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/oilers-activate-yamamoto-from-ir-loan-holloway-and-desharnais-to-ahl/sn-amp/


Well you not knowing that Holloway contract didn’t matter in the playoffs tells me your just straight up talking out your arse.
25 mai 2023 à 14 h 12
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Well you not knowing that Holloway contract didn’t matter in the playoffs tells me your just straight up talking out your arse.


I wasn’t referring to the playoffs.

Stubborn coach only moved 2 players in and out of the lineup during the playoffs (Janmark & Broberg). This is relevant because of the success (see record going into the playoffs that I referred to) and he wasn’t willing to mess up the chemistry of the line-up, apparently.

I know you just want to argue. So, you are right, you got me, I’m an ignant, know-nothing.
25 mai 2023 à 17 h 46
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Quoting: Grievous
I wasn’t referring to the playoffs.

Stubborn coach only moved 2 players in and out of the lineup during the playoffs (Janmark & Broberg). This is relevant because of the success (see record going into the playoffs that I referred to) and he wasn’t willing to mess up the chemistry of the line-up, apparently.

I know you just want to argue. So, you are right, you got me, I’m an ignant, know-nothing.


Nice try, Yes you were, he was injured prior.
25 mai 2023 à 18 h 31
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I think SJ retains up to $3M, and they would try to get Bouchard instead of Ceci/Yamamoto.
 
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