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Ktownchef
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Forum: Armchair-GM23 déc. 2023 à 19 h 46
Sujet: Screwing Around Based on Recent Trades Ive Seen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingofRnR</b></div><div>That’s what I did…. Don’t forget, VAN’s 1st was projected to be 13th Overall when Bo was Traded, but slid to 17th Overall. Also, Raty was projected to be a mid-1st Round Pick. Beauvillier = Soucy and I added a depth D and Nikoleyev for Pius Suter. Flames’ll need a replacement Centre</div></div>

That's not close to what you did or asked for. First of all the draft pick we got for Bo was top 12 protected so if it went any higher it would have become an unprotected 2024 first. For Horvat we got a bottom 6 winger on a big cap hit with term at 4.25 in Beauvillier, a 1st, and Raty who is a former second round pick.

You are asking for a former 15th overall pick, plus <strong>another</strong> first, plus a top 9 forward on a great contract and a 4/5 dman on another good contract.

Canucks are unlikely to give up Soucy as he is only 1 of 2 canuck dmen currently signed beyond this year. In order to get a package like the Canucks got for Bo they'd likely need assurance that they could resign Lindholm which I doubt they can with Pettersson and Hronek heading towards big deals.
Forum: Armchair-GM22 déc. 2023 à 21 h 23
Sujet: Allvin Free Agency
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Prime_Jimbo</b></div><div>$8+ for Hronek is too much. He's been really good but Hughes effect is real.

Z is the future top 4 LHD. Don't think it's too much money. He won't get less than what he makes now.

If Bains becomes a 4th liner, that would be a plus. He won't be more than that.

Lekkerimaki is a couple years away still. So Tank on a short deal makes sense vs spending crazy money and term on others like Reinhart. Rather keep the flexibility with Kuz and Boeser in contract years as well.

DeMelo is worth that. He's underrated and he's in a premium position on the right. I'd rather two good players than get roped into a long term deal and overpay Reinhart or someone like that.</div></div>

8+ for Hronek may be too much but it doesn't mean he's not going to get it. He's on pace for over 70 points. 25 year old 70 point RHD aren't cheap.

Zadorov is not a top 4 guy I'm sorry he's just not the same goes with DeMelo. We just disagree there. 8.5 million is crazy money for two bottom pairing defensemen.
Forum: Armchair-GM2 déc. 2023 à 2 h 33
Sujet: CBJ swap
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Affectionate_Side_64</b></div><div>Yes, intentions... It's not as if you're here to share your own threads, so what is your purpose beyond criticizing? Yes, I agree it's an overpay for the Leafs and that was done purposely to avoid the perception of bias and silly arguments like this. So, if you had been fair from the get go, we could have come to the conclusion that maybe I'm asking too much for our players, but I'm giving up way too much for the players I'm acquiring. Which means the truth is probably somewhere in the middle, making you're claim that we wouldn't have the assets a bit disingenuous.

So, let's frame it a different way; would the Leafs be able to turn Brodie at 50% retained, Jarnkrok, a 1st, two 3rds, two 5ths, Liljegren, Hirvonen and Holmberg into Peeke, Jenner, Larsson and Seeler without retention? I would argue yes, and that is the point.

And also, using points to evaluate one of the best DFD in the game is an interesting angle, but I digress...</div></div>

I watched Chris Tanev on my favorite team for 10 years. I think I have a fairly good idea what his play style is like. Sorry I didn't sum up his entire career in a couple sentences. But here... Tanev is a top 4 dman and a pure warrior but he's also 34 in a few weeks, pure rental, and offers little value beyond his own end along with being injury prone. When he's healthy he's a huge addition to any team if you have offensive dman to compliment him like say for example a Quinn Hughes, Weegar or Hanafin. There is that better?

For the record I don't just criticize here I just give my opinion. I do compliment people on here when they think outside the box or put up a trade I think would actually happen. Clearly we have a difference of opinion and that's ok because no one benefits from sitting in their own echo chamber with only their opinion. Last thing... I'll use the form how I want, thanks.
Forum: Armchair-GM2 déc. 2023 à 2 h 11
Sujet: CBJ swap
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Affectionate_Side_64</b></div><div>Eller, Namestikov, Brown all went for seconds in the last year, while being more expensive with less years remaining. Jarnkrok has similar value, and adding a 5th to his very cost effective contract only helps that. Zadorov was a bottom pair D being paid like a top 4 at 3.75 mil, who requested a trade and had obviously become a distraction. Brodie at 50% retained (2.5 mil) would be a top 4 D being paid like a bottom pair guy. So that's a 2nd and a 5th vs a 3rd and a 5th for Zadorov, who likely would have required an additional 5th if he were retained as brodie would be. The difference is negligible, and most people acknowledge that CGY could have done better.

The values are debatable as always, but the fact that your issue was with the return to the Leafs, rather than the considerably more value going the other way shows your true intentions. So Janrkrok with 3 years remaining at 2.1 mil and Brodie as a 2.5 mil rental are not worth 2 late 2nds, but Larsson at 2 x 4 mil for two seconds and Liljegren, and Jenner at 3 x 3.75 mil + Peeke at 3 x 2.75 for a 1st, a 3rd, Hirvonen and Holmberg you have no issue with.

Alright!</div></div>

Intentions... LOL. I'm actually a neutral party here with no bone to pick in this fight but I did say why I didn't comment on the other two trades because I said you wouldn't have the assets to complete those trades without the others... but....

If you want my opinion on the other trades I think that's way too much to give up for Larsson and giving up a the same picks as the Zadorov (who is a much better player) trade is another huge overpay for a guy that has 34 points in over 200 NHL games and only in the last 2 years has become a full time NHLer.