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Jeff_Fingers_Agnet04

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Forum: NHL Signings27 août 2019 à 10 h 56
Sujet: Tampa Bay Lightning signed Patrick Maroon (1 Year / $900,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jeff_Fingers_Agnet04</b></div><div>Don’t understand how Tampa has been able to use their “tax haven” status so well in previous year. Whereas teams like Toronto where yes the tax rate is high but the endorsement incentive could easily offset that.</div></div>

Guys at this range is where the tax haven status is most crucial. Deals like this can't really be paid out in signing bonus, so players have no choice really where they pay taxes, so the difference between Florida and Toronto becomes more apparent. Also, I don't think players signing for less than $1M are really being swayed by endorsement money. Back to back stanley cups has more appeal than anything, so best shot at being a repeat cup winner on a low tax state team, very reasonable decision to sign in Tampa.

In the end though, this signing likely gets a bit blown out of proportion because he played on a team that won the cup last year. He is a good player, and this is a very good depth signing, but does it really move the needle more than signings like Brassard, Spezza, Nichuchkin? Likely not. I would say Shattenkirk, even if it's nearly double the AAV, will have a better chance to make a significant impact, just because Tampa's right side D was thinner than their forward group, so the opportunity to make a real difference will be greater.

None of this is to say it's not a good signing, but these types of signings, low risk, low AAV that can be buried, are typically going to provide the best bang for the buck because they are found money.

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Forum: Armchair-GM23 août 2019 à 9 h 39
Sujet: Follow up marnerhall fantasy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>blowing_the_zone</b></div><div>That's kinda the point of the previous one. Ferris milks two of his big fish at the same time. How happy would he be? Regardless, and as much as we know that Ferris is motivated by all the quid he can get, I kinda bet that Hall is more motivated to be on a competitive team rather than getting every nickle he can. He's been in tough his whole career. Kinda like the JT deal, coulda got 13M in SJ apparently, but took a "discount" to come to the leafs</div></div>

I'd wager the Hall situation is way easier to handle for Ferris than Marner.

1) Hall is FA, he can just go to the highest bidder, Ferris can't really play any stupid games in that scenario and doesn't need too.
2) Marner is RFA, meaning the highest bidder needs to also be willing to give up 4 1st round picks, he also has to maneuver an evolving market that he has completely over estimated and he's vilified his client by making outrageous demands and playing all sorts of games to get his way.

In my opinion, Ferris is in big trouble with Marner, if I was Marner, I'd be feeling concerned that the offers on the table will only get worse. I feel this way for several reasons.

1) Everyone is waiting for him and Dubas is being patient knowing its highly unlikely no one will blink. Soon someone else is going to sign and solidify the market value for these RFAs.
2) If Point or Rantanan sign for long term and less than 10 million, in what reasonable universe does he think he is going to get more than them.
3) If those guys go long term, whats stopping Dubas from shaving money off his offers since the market has changed in his favour?
4) Marner really does want to be in TO and if he is unreasonable, come the start of the season, he will either be traded or sit for an entire year.

With those issues in mind, I think Ferris is in a tight spot with Marner (Which is why he's leaking info about playing in Europe, its what he did with the other guys he had AA and Anderson) and he's really hoping he can pressure Dubas into making a mistake. Dubas has been very firm and has made all the moves he needs to, to create space. Now its just a waiting game and Dubas has a great hand while Ferris is bluffing and everyone knows it.
Forum: Armchair-GM23 août 2019 à 8 h 9
Forum: Armchair-GM21 août 2019 à 6 h 13
Sujet: What IF Marner doesnt play a year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SammyT_51</b></div><div>Oh for sure.

And Id love to see Bracco there too. He is not the best 5v5 player tho so the competition for that playmaking spot might go to either him or Timashov who is also a playmaker but more of a Nylander type who is better at 5v5. One of those two but I think Bracco has better chance overall. Bracco would not be a good fit on bottom-6 but top-6 and PP yes. It would be nice to show what he is capable of and if he doesnt succeed, there are others and there are trade options as well. Maybe Justin Williams wouldnt be signed but I wouldnt be betting on it thats why I didnt sign him to mine AGM. IF Marner is not there for a year it opens up a spot for competition.</div></div>

If Marner doesn't sign it would be smart to bring back Gardiner if you could on a 1 year deal no..?
Reilly-Gards
Muzzin-Barrie
Dermott-Ceci

Seems like honestly a very good blueline to me
Forum: Armchair-GM15 août 2019 à 8 h 47
Sujet: TOR EDM TBL MTL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jeff_Fingers_Agnet04</b></div><div>I feel really bad for Ken Holland, its going to take some type of wizardry to undue what Chiarelli has done</div></div>

It's not really Chiarelli alone who is the problem it's Katz.

They would have been better off to sit down draisatl and McDavid at the end of the season and told them they can keep trying to win now but they'll never build a contender and will likely continue to fail to win (ie lose while trying to win). Or they can accept the fact that Chiarelli ****ed up and accept a rebuild year understanding it's a year of growth and properly nuked this team without hurting it more for the long run. Ie not buy out their defenseman. Take on one year bad contracts. Trade out any veteran that won't be part of their long term core.

Give youth some time to grow.

And come out stronger with less cap problems in 2020-2021.

As Babcock said when he got to Toronto there will be pain. It wasn't hard to lose after that because the city knew it was losing as part of growing.

It is hard to lose when you're trying to win and failing
Forum: Armchair-GM12 août 2019 à 14 h 46
Sujet: Marner Bridge - Reality
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Chiller</b></div><div>Hence why i am not using 6.5%. That would be rediculuos. Ive increased it over 2.3%. A Kuch deal would be 5.3Mil AAV for Marner not 7.1</div></div>

I have a feeling it's heading towards a 3 yr deal worth around 9M aav. That's an overpay for what he's worth today and it's my guess that will be increasingly true once the other rfas start to sign.

But if Mitch is dug in at 3yr/10M it seems like a compromise both ways, the leafs can make it work, and it compares to a 3 yr offer that was on the table for AM. But oh man, if he gets a deal like that he better come outta the gates producing... cause if he's feeling sensitive and disrespected now just wait til he sees how the fan base turns on him if he doesn't put up numbers..

The other option that I can see happening is that Ferris and Paul are actually deluded and they continue to try to bully tactic the leafs and Marner ends up sitting for the year.