3 juin 2021
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I wouldn't be surprised if O'Connor were to make the lineup over Poehling. He was injured for a decent portion of last season, but he was solid when he was in the lineup and management seems to like him. Considering their big offseason splash was Jeff Petry, he's definitely not getting 3rd pairing minutes. Hextall is likely banking on a bounceback now that he's not in Montreal, and not the #1 D on his team.
Also, I would call the Pens' biggest weakness their forward depth. Jarry was excellent this season (even if he still doesn't have playoff results) and DeSmith, though he started slowly, was good down the stretch. However, Heinen and Blueger are the most consistant bottom 6, and after that there isn't much to write home about. Carter is declining and his extention doesn't look great with hindsight. McGinn's cap hit is a high for what he brings to the table, and he wasn't great in the back half of the season after some injury woes. Kapanen is in desperate need of a return to form. Zucker might see time in the bottom 6 and the same goes for him. DOC and Poehling are both inexperienced, but have potential. Archibald fills a roster spot and I'm not sure what else he's good for - getting back ZAR or Motte or ERod if we had the cap space would have been better.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMLBRIAN</b></div><div>I really like the Rutta signing. I dislike the Rakell signing. Good player but too much cap for too many years. 4M a year should have been max for Rakell in my mind. Petry will help them for sure but 3 years at 6.25m is a lot of cap.
6 years for Letang and 4 years for Malkin were both too long as well. BUT Burke has stated in the past that he signs those type of contracts knowing the last year or 2 will be bought out and he tells the owners this before they are signed. Letang especially will probably not play the last 2 years of this. Cap hit for Malkin was great!
This team is OLD. They are definitely trying to squeeze the last few years with this core.
Overall I don't think this team is good enough to win a Championship. But it's hard to bet against Crosby and crew.</div></div>
I actually like the Rakell contract better than the Rutta one. Pittsburgh still has 9 NHL caliber defensemen, and I don't know if Rutta is a ~$2 mil cap hit better than Ruhwedel or Friedman. Would love for him to prove me wrong, though. Rakell has spent the last few seasons on an unspectacular Ducks team. After the deadline, his production was higher on a line with either Crosby or Malkin, and that'll probably stay true.
I'm not that big a fan of the term on Rakell's contract, however. Or Malkin and Letang's for that matter, but the Penguins window is almost closed. By the time those contracts aren't any good, the Pens won't be either, so I don't care. They give us a better chance to win now.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rob32sjsharks</b></div><div>I said everyone but the Meier deal Declines.
Yes you take the best player available.. within reason! if the best player available is a RD and you are stacked on the position you opt for the 2nd best that fill a weakness.
Robins, Bordeleau, Gushin, and Eklund are all skilled forwards with top 6 potential.... but all are under 6' and on the smaller side. Adding Michkov or Bedard further exasperates this where Fantilli gives you a power forward unseen in the draft int he last 10 years. and the drop from those 2 to Fantilli is minor enough that it isn't a drastic fall. I highly doubt we get 1st OA so really its between Michkov who is 5'9 and who we don't even get to see in SJ til 26 because of his KHL contract, or Fantilli who could be in our lineup as early as 23/24. and even if we got 1OA what kind of deal could we get to trade that 1st OA for say the 2nd or 3OA? another 1st or high 2nd and Adam Fantilli! even that sound appealing to me.</div></div>
The only prospect in the Sharks system anywhere near the level of even Fantilli is Eklund. One of them can be shipped off in exchange for help elsehwere, instead. Look at NJ, trading Ty Smith after drafting Nemec. Being stacked in prospects at any position is a moot point because the Sharks have been good enough to compete for a while. They don't really have an excess anywhere.
As for Michkov's KHL contract, I don't think it's much of an issue for San Jose. They have new coach and GM that don't have much in the way of expectations, and they aren't very far into a rebuild - I'd argue they aren't willing to tear it down yet. If they're going to go through a full rebuild, it's going to take a while to draft and develop a future core. Fantilli could be ready by 23/24, but will the Sharks be ready for him by then?
It might come down to whether they want to go for a rebuild or a retool. If it's a retool, Fantilli might be a better option to start competing again immediately. If it's a full rebuild, Michkov has the higher ceiling, and will arrive just in time for some of the other high Sharks picks between now and then to develop. And considering this particular ACGM is selling off Couture, Meier, and Hertl, it's taking the full rebuild option - an option that I think is the best choice for the Sharks.
I'd argue that Gaudreau, Marchand, and Kaprisov should be the top 3 (maybe that order, maybe not), and Matthew Tkachuk should be higher as well. All those guys have outstanding offensive impacts while having full 200 ft games as well. It's not a knock on Huberdeau, Panarin, Connor, etc, but those guys are all excellent offensively while not being that great on defense. We could argue how much that matters, but I think's important enough to put those guys at the top. For example, Gaudreau and Huberdeau had the same number of points last year, 115. That's absurd, but to top that off, Johnny Hockey had Selke votes, while Huberdeau's style of play leads to a lot of rush chances going both ways. Again, Huberdeau's a fantastic player and is definitely one of the best players in the league, but he's not the best LW. That's a lot for one year of JT Miller, considering I don't think Pittsburgh will have the space to resign him next year.
Jason Zucker's had a rough time in Pittsburgh, but I think Hextall is willing to ride out the last year of his deal and let him walk. If Pacioretty gets traded for less than nothing, the trade to dump Zucker isn't worth it.
Pickering and Poulin are the only two guys the Penguins have drafted in the 1st round in years. They aren't off the table, but I'd want more than one year of whoever I got for them.
Maniscalco is whatever. I don't think Vancouver would be that interested. His inclusion feels like quantity over quality.
With how stacked 2023 is reported to be, I'm hesitant to give up our 1st. Considering our last two 1sts we traded were for Kapanen and Zucker, excuse me for being hesitant. Pittsburgh's prospect puddle is still pretty shallow. It's the oldest team in the league. Maybe we should be holding onto these.
Travis Dermott doesn't help at all. We already 9 NHL caliber defensemen, so his inclusion does more harm than good for the Pens, imo.
And honestly? I think it's too late for a Miller trade. Vancouver had a nightmare season last year, and unless the same happens, they should be competing for a playoff spot. Pettersson and Hughes are entering their primes. The additions of Mikheyev and Kuzmenko improve their forward core, and Podkolzin and Hoglander are expected to take a step forward. JT Miller would still be a veteran presence, an elite player, and a leader on this team that has a good shot. Now isn't the time to trade him.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Marcsnack</b></div><div>You would defo have to add to Dumo/POJ/1st to get Chychrun. Not sure how much more it would take or if we can compete with other teams. Another idea I had was to go for Vince Dunn.. not as good as Chychrun but still young and solid.. dont know if he is worth moving POJ for though. I would love Theodore/Hague or Hanifin, but those are pipe dreams.
It's tough.. it's either we have both MP and Dumo but live with Smith in the AHL for the year or we take a risk and hope the right side can carry the less experienced players. Regardless, I feel like next season, we will have that six so might as well bite the bullet now and hope it works.</div></div>
I mean even if Smith starts in the AHL, injuries are common enough that he'll still see significant NHL time, and with how old our defense is, that'll be an even bigger issue for us.
I wouldn't put it past Hextall (and I think Sully would have a say in it, too) to start the season with him in WSB, bring him up as needed, and move a defenseman in November or December depending on performances. If there's any competing team whose defense is demolished by injuries, they'll have the willingness and cap from LTIR to pick someone up.