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Forum: Armchair-GM19 mars à 8 h 7

Sujet: Building A Foundation Of Love And Success In Buffalo

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>But why when we can sign 37 year old pat kane and 35 year old Adam henrique?

Kulich will play 5 ahl seasons apparently</div></div>

I watch BUF, always have (from Roch, NY), and I'm a bit clueless about their approach to actually making the playoffs and becoming a contender. And with the youth on the team, a perenial contender.

They have a ton of young guys who excel offensively, but they lack two way guys and strong defense first defensemen. Just counting on the guys here now to continue developing or get better isn;t working, and having guys like Rosen, Ostlund, Kulich, Savoie buried in minors (and having a full compliment of picks), shouldn;t be the answer either. There has to be some kind of effort/desperation/strive to actually compete, not just end of season spoilers to finish out of the bottom 10.

I'm not talking overhaul, and certainly dont get it, but Greenway, Johnson, and a ton of 4th liners surely wasn;t the answer in 23-24.

A guy like Laughton or Cates would be an improvement in the two way area, and Cates being young (and Laughton isn;t old either) means he can hang around longer than Kane/Henrique. I dont think with Skinner, Tuch, Thompson, Quinn, Cozens, Benson, JJP, and then breaking in 2 of 4 top forward prospects that you need offensive old guys like those 2.

A guy like Cates or Laughton AND a good stay at home/physical RD is needed (not Tyler Myers). I like Clifton but hes a nice physical 3rd pairing guy.

Clifton and Ryan Johnson might make a nice 3rd pair, but Samuelsson-Clifton probably doesn;t add enough punch/speed/offense as a 3rd pair and I just dont buy Byram-Samuelsson working. Maybe Dahlin-Power will work if they can play better defense, but Byram with a solid stay at home RD seems to be more of a need then Samuelsson, who is probably the odd man out.

Would PHI take Samuelsson and a pick for Cates (and maybe a rough physical guy like Hathaway)? Maybe Samuelsson and Ostlund for Cates and Hathaway? Keep the top 6 as is above, and a bottom 6 of Cates/Krebs/Rosen/Benson/Kulich/Hathaway/Greenway?

Forum: Armchair-GM19 mars à 5 h 21

Sujet: Building A Foundation Of Love And Success In Buffalo

Cates is probably a bit more than that. PHI lacks centers, so I doubt they move one without a SLIGHT overpayment.

Jokiharju and a 2nd? Krebs and a 3rd, Ostlund and a 3rd, kind of thing....

At some point BUF has to find a spot for Savoie, Ostlund, Kulich at center though

Forum: Armchair-GM18 mars à 10 h 23

Sujet: Cup friendly

Massive underpayments to RFAs and UFAs, almost ridiculous

Forum: Armchair-GM14 mars à 11 h 21

Sujet: Its a Cates for Jokiharju swap

Im not sure its as good a fit for PHI as it is for BUF.

As others have pointed out 3rd pair RD is not a need and PHI has alot of depth on RD and tons of cap space. They probably need a superior top and 2nd pairing vet (Pesce, Skjei, Hanifan, etc...), so Jokiharju isnt it, even if they move on from Ristolinen.

PHI needs Centers, so would gladly think about Krebs or a Sabres prospect like Savoie, Kulich or Ostlund, but Jokiharju isnt it.

And Cates, who came off injury very slow, isnt an offensive non-entity as 2022-23 showed.

Forum: Armchair-GM14 mars à 11 h 4

Sujet: Flyers 24-25

Also, they'll either buyout Johanssen and LTIR Ellis and have 12mil in cap space.

ANd they wont buy out Atkinson, they'll either play him, trade him at 50%, etc...

So ultimately they'll either pick up a top 2 line center OR a top 4 dman

Laughton at 50% for 2 further years is worth a 1st and a bit more, Goodrow isnt an expensive buyout , maybe just Laughton and a 1st and 4th kind of thing

Forum: Armchair-GM13 mars à 11 h 54

Sujet: Going Into Next Season With Defensive Upgrades

In a growing cap:

Why would Bertuzzi take less?
Why would DOmi settle for what hes making now (On his 5th/6th team in 8 yrs)?
Why does Liljegren take just 2mil or Benoit 1mil or Robertson just 900k?

What happens in the post season that makes the leafs attractive for these discounts OR is it that yiou have to lowball people just to fit under the cap?

Forum: Armchair-GM13 mars à 11 h 50

Sujet: Moving Forward

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wojme</b></div><div>No one is giving a top prospect for a fourth liner stop it.</div></div>

Laughton gets just above 3rd line minutes and is just under .5 pts per game, is that a 4th liner?

He plkays ES, PK and a bit of PP, brings leadership, physicality and 2 way play, I'd rate him as better than Greenway, but hes a 4th liner. (and Ostlund is still behind Kulich, Savoie and Rosen in BUF system, with alot of youth on the NHL roster, a full compliment of picks and the team needing to change its non playoff streak)

Forum: NHL Trades6 mars à 16 h 43

Sujet: (COL/PHI) - Johansen, 2025 1st (COL) for Walker, 2026 5th (PHI)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>Johansen (buyout), Hayes, Hart, Ellis, DeAngelo Petersen: That's $17M of dead cap next season.

Brière making the though decisions to rebuild.</div></div>

Not really, Ellis is LTIR so counts zero against cap, johansen and petersen will go to ahl and cap hit will be less, hart is expiring RFA and currently PUP so his cap hit isn’t counted.

Philly got from provorov deal about 7mil against cap for two 1sts (bonk who had great year in OHL) and two 2nds. That’s a great return for a club not close to the cap and rebuilding

Forum: NHL Trades6 mars à 16 h 40

Sujet: (COL/PHI) - Johansen, 2025 1st (COL) for Walker, 2026 5th (PHI)

Amazing to think of the return philly got for provorov now.

Forum: Armchair-GM6 mars à 12 h 22

Sujet: Wings in on Hanifin with ext in play

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FireLordZuk0</b></div><div>How so? you move Maata to make room for Hanifin and then in the offseason see what you can do with later while Edvinsson plays GRG playoff hockey</div></div>

But wheres Edvinsson going to play and after spending almost 10mil on three new defensemen, youre going to add another, who will sign long term for 7+ mil? (when you have Seider, Raymond, Kane, Reimer, Rasmussen, Fischer, Veleno, Perron, Sprong all expiring?) Just dont think an extended Hanifan makes a lot of sense

Forum: Armchair-GM6 mars à 12 h 18

Sujet: Paraykoooo

Why would PHI give you a 2nd and 6th for a waiver wire claim and a FIVE million cap dump (to them).

You think they want Brodie that he has value, To them?

Youd be lucky for brodie to waive his NTC and THEN do that deal with PHI for nothing (but the cap space).

Unfortunately no one is taking a 5mil cap dump for free and theres a reason you're dumping Jones, hes fallen back to earth (as he does every year). And Brodie is still one of your better dmen.

Forum: Armchair-GM6 mars à 12 h 16

Sujet: Wings in on Hanifin with ext in play

Not enough there for Flames, and why would DET do that?

They just went and got Petry, Gotisbehere, Holl and added that to Charoit and Maata? Talk about making a logjam worse

Forum: Armchair-GM6 mars à 12 h 10

Sujet: Building a younger core

Three months ago PIT fans were saying Ludvig was the answer at LD, or that raves would work or that DUbas had a plan by signing all these never weres/has beens

Forum: Armchair-GM6 mars à 12 h 7

Sujet: Steps in the right direction

Ellis is on LTIR and always will be, PHI is one of the deepest pockets in the league, they dont need to move Ellis or pay to do it.

Allen is not worth a 3rd and 4th. Maybe a 4th, but hes been pretty bad the past few years and his cap hit for a backup and 2 yrs left is not good. I'd be suprised if PHI offers a 4th. Theres free cap dumps and maybe Martin Jones, Sandstrom has played well last yr and so far this year, theres a ton better options in UFA in off season and I just cant see it....

Forum: Armchair-GM6 mars à 11 h 50

Sujet: Pulling Savard out of Montreal

Savard at 50 percent is a late round 1st and a bit more but not that

Forum: Armchair-GM6 mars à 11 h 48

Sujet: Integrating young guys adding some older guys

Robertson due to injuries, size, type of play and still not a sure thing in the top 9, especially on teams laden with higher ceiling youth does not get a Barron back.
I’m not sure he gets his draft position (low round 2nd) back.

Mtl fans wants a 1st and more back, I think they get a 1st for him.

And there’s not enough for CGY in that deal

Forum: Armchair-GM6 mars à 8 h 47

Sujet: Is Cowan eligble to play games

PHI accepts, STL doesn't.

You're either adding Minten or Hirvonen and a 3rd at least.

Bear in mind that a late 1st is generally a 50% chance of being a regular NHLer and that Robertson is an expiring RFA that no one is sure IS an top 9 NHLer. ANd that Brodie, in STL eyes, is a cap dump to make it work for TOR. Just not enough there

Forum: Armchair-GM6 mars à 8 h 43

Sujet: After 2023-24 TDL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vinny82</b></div><div>I like the idea of a hockey trade involving Atkinson, not sure Dallas does that, Seguin is still a significantly better player but love the thought.</div></div>

Kind of my thought.

Seguin is the better player, but a 9mil cap hit for 3 yrs as opposed to 5.8mil for 1 yr? Thats the trade off for DAL. ANd PHI lacks centers throughout organization, he fills a gap for 2-3 yrs and a 3rd line of Frost-Brink-Cates is worth it

Forum: Armchair-GM6 mars à 8 h 41

Sujet: Kenny Money

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SupremeBone</b></div><div>I'm not disagreeing with the overall thrust of your comment, but the part where you call Foegele a cap dump is simply unreasonable. He's not some useless 4th liner that's paid 2x his worth. If I had to guess, you mean that he's a necessary cap casualty (different from a cap dump) for EDM to complete the trade but that doesn't mean he's valueless or a negative value. At absolute worst, he's an asset you can flip for a 3rd, perhaps even a 2nd given his performance this year.</div></div>

Exactly what I was thinking, cap dump is unkind. But to PHI as an exp[iiring UFA that theyd need to flip by a deadline, he offers not tons. If EDM traded him for a 3rd and added the 3rd to the package to PHI then sure

Forum: Armchair-GM6 mars à 6 h 28

Sujet: Deadline Deals part 2 off-season

All those teams say no.

Graves gets the 6th overall pick?
STL wants Acciari back?
Forsling takes just 4mil?

Forum: Armchair-GM6 mars à 6 h 25

Sujet: Kenny Money

You'd have to think the asking price for Laughton with 3 yrs of retention is a 1st and 3rd easy.

But that leaves a lot of junk for Seeler:

Savoie is a former 4th round pick not scoring in 2 yrs in AHL has minimal value
Nieminielin is a 25 yr old going nowhere in 2 yrs in AHL
Fogele is an expiring cap dump

Thats just a few bodies PHI doesn;t want.

Forum: Armchair-GM6 mars à 6 h 9

Sujet: Maple Leafs - Dumba Parayko and Patches

Very weak offers.

A bunch of 3rds and 5ths and some guys who have limited value. 3rds and 5ths?

Why would STL want expiring Brodie? What value does Kokkonen have?

I like Voit, but he and 2 5ths dont get DUmba at 50%.

What value does Steeves have? What value does Ellis have?

Forum: Armchair-GM6 mars à 6 h 6

Sujet: Sabres 2425

Yeah, I think you're being hopeful on some of those signings and your trades probably dont have enough value for thew other teams

Forum: Armchair-GM6 mars à 5 h 0

Sujet: Mogul Moves

PHI takes that, but I doubt you get a 3rd for Martin Jones from NJD.

Forum: Armchair-GM5 mars à 12 h 6

Sujet: Two New Defencemen

PHI has alot of wingers, so Robertson doesnt move the guage that much and Timmins has pretty much ZERO value.

3rd, 2 5ths, robertson maybe, but Timmins is a guy Toronto got for nothing, cant play defense, cant stay healthy and on the move to his 4th team in 5 years?

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