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Forum: NHL Signings2 juill. 2023 à 18 h 21

Sujet: Seattle Kraken signed Kailer Yamamoto (1 Year / $1,500,000 AAV)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IconicHawk</b></div><div>Really thought he was heading to Europe</div></div>

Seriously? He's 100% an NHL player.

Forum: NHL Signings1 juill. 2023 à 9 h 9

Sujet: Detroit Red Wings signed Klim Kostin (2 Years / $2,000,000 AAV)

If you take Yamamoto's buyout into account it's 2 x 2,5M. I don't think the move is worth it.

Forum: Armchair-GM15 mai 2022 à 11 h 55

Sujet: McDavid Isnt Going Anywhere

That’s awful value for puljijarvi and bourgault

Forum: Armchair-GM19 mars 2022 à 12 h 49

Sujet: Friedman on 32 thoughts says to expect Oilers to not make any moves

Makes sense if you think about it logically. They need goaltending and defense. None of the decent goalies want to go there, so that's not going to happen, and they aren't in on any top defenseman because of the prices. I'd like to see some sort of move, but this isn't shocking. This is a very odd team, but since they are in a weak division the might do something come playoff time? You never know.

Forum: Armchair-GM17 août 2021 à 19 h 42

Sujet: Goalie swap

There is no need for Edmonton to include a 1st in a deal like this. Koskinen is an expiring contract and Georgiev isn't good.

Forum: Armchair-GM20 juin 2021 à 20 h 12

Sujet: Hopefully

This is horrible for Edmonton

Forum: Armchair-GM9 mai 2021 à 17 h 7

Sujet: Just screw it

Brendan Saad is really overrated. For four straight years he hasn't cracked 50 points/50 point pace. He is a decent goal scorer. But you are signing him for term when he's already going to be 29.

I'd consider like a Tofolli deal but your deal is too high aav and in particular too long

Forum: Armchair-GM9 mars 2021 à 23 h 1

Sujet: Recent Rumours

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tjm220</b></div><div>Why would Buffalo do that? They didn’t resign Kahun when they had the chance, and nobody wants Turris. Couldn’t you at least provide an asset that they could actually use? The sixth round pick isn’t it.</div></div>

Buf would take Kahun back Instantly, what r u talking about

Forum: Armchair-GM17 oct. 2020 à 19 h 43

Sujet: Tyler Johnson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ragsandbluesfan</b></div><div>Theres a 2nd one</div></div>

Only if you have arbitration cases, tampa does not

Forum: Armchair-GM3 oct. 2020 à 17 h 44

Sujet: Trading Nuge

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Carolina aren't going to overpay for someone who would be their 3C or 2nd line winger. There's no way the Canes part with a 1st for Edmonton's 3rd best center because he is a scrap. As for RNH being able to get 60 points and being great defensively... okay? Nino is great defensively and can get 55-60 points. Why do Carolina make this trade?</div></div>

wdym would be their 3C? He's their 2C easily. Much better than Vincent Trochek or whoever they have there. And about him being "Edmonton's 3rd best center", well duh. Do you know who plays ahead of him?

Nino was on pace for 35 points this year. not "55-60 points"
RNH was on pace for 77 points this year.

this is a very uneducated take

Forum: Armchair-GM20 août 2020 à 20 h 5

Sujet: Poile lets see some changes to get younger

How does anyone think that's good for Edmonton?
As good as Josi is he isn't worth that.

Forum: Armchair-GM14 août 2020 à 23 h 6

Sujet: Just trades no UFA

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FreeTacosAreBestTacos</b></div><div>So the Rangers trade a Top 6 F, a young potential starter, and a 1st for a Top 4 Dman and a bust? lolno</div></div>

Hes not a bust, he very likely is a 3rd liner at worst. Just chose not to sign this year

Forum: Armchair-GM26 mai 2020 à 20 h 44

Sujet: can someone explain how the draft lottery is going to work

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tkecanuck341</b></div><div>But they didn't conclude the regular season. This "play-in" is essentially replacing the "stretch run." If Montreal tore up the final 12 games of the season and Toronto took a dump, then who's to say that Montreal would not have passed Toronto in the standings if they played out all 82 games?</div></div>

Yeah, I changed my mind between making that comment and now. The bottom teams absolutely should not be in the playoffs but they were gifted a spot. Favoring them in the lottery would be dumb. They can't have it all.

Forum: Armchair-GM14 mai 2020 à 0 h 43

Sujet: Canadiens fans would you accept

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kafle22</b></div><div>Care to explain?
Cause your getting pick number 23 for pick number 39 and 61</div></div>

dumb trade for whoever has 23. Cost of moving from 39 to 23 is like pick 37.

Forum: Armchair-GM11 mai 2020 à 19 h 57

Sujet: Dallas Trade

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Goilersfan1215</b></div><div>True for only a year, and I think Benning plus Bouchard can make if work especially if you keep Russell in the fold and Kelfbom stays healthy. (That’s a lot of what ifs but still it’s only for a year)</div></div>

- Tippett doesn't trust Benning in the top-4, that much is obvious. No way Holland builds a lineup that has Benning penciled into the top-4.
- Bouchard may be NHL ready now, but Holland won't clear a spot for him, that's not how he does things. And I agree. It would be a bad bet for a contender to pencil a raw rookie into the top-4 completely untried.
- Russell played much better on the left side, I don't think he's going back to the right except in the case of an in-game injury.

You're going into training camp with a weaker defense than last year, and only a slightly stronger offense.

And Honka is a really, really sad return for Puljujarvi. He may never play in the NHL again.

Forum: Armchair-GM7 avr. 2020 à 21 h 38

Sujet: no cbo flat cap

as an oilers fan, I'd rather buyout neal than give up a first to get rid of him. But imo I don't even think they'll get rid of him next season. I think they'd be more likely to wait out the whole contract than trade a first to get rid of him.

Forum: Armchair-GM18 févr. 2020 à 20 h 43

Sujet: Forward from OTT and CHI D to survive without Klefbom

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Billy739</b></div><div>seems as likely as trading for Petry
it would be admitting your own failures as an organization as Gustafsson was yours and you saw no value in him</div></div>

That was a "failure" from two GMs ago. The Holland front office shouldn't have any issue at all adding a player that can help us based on swallowing pride and admitting that two GMs/scouting department ago screwed up. So I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.

Gustaffson will/should also be drastically cheaper than Petry?

Forum: Armchair-GM15 févr. 2020 à 11 h 40

Sujet: Kovalchuk for Puljujarvi

I think everyone is missing the point. EDM could absolutely use Kovy and even Cousins for that matter but that is irrelevant.

Edmonton has to win this trade because if he does well elsewhere it looks sooooo bad on them... Again!

Thats why it makes most sense to recoup another teams high end prospect who hasnt worked out in return. That way both teams can have a second chance at redeeming that high end prospect they once had.

Edm needs to trade Puljujarvi and feel like they got another potential Puljujarvi in return to feel like they didnt lose this trade.

Adding Kovy and Cousins might really help them in the playoffs but that would still be loss in the trade at the end if the day.

Forum: Armchair-GM5 févr. 2020 à 9 h 4

Sujet: Summer After Deadline Transplant

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>Stand corrected I just assumed morrisey was younger, forgot he Bridged before his deal</div></div>

Nurse's agent used the Morrissey bridge almost exactly last time: Morrissey signed for $3.15M x 2 on September 16, 2018, on the eve of training camp. Nurse signed for $3.2 x 2 <em><strong>the very next day</strong></em>. Now Nurse's agent is ignoring Morrissey's $6.25M x 8 extension and targeting Trouba's $8M x 7 extension, so you can understand why Oilers fans are pissed about that right now. Sure Nurse scores more than both of them (at 5v5), but McDavid is a big part of that. Why should Edmonton have to pay everybody extra for McDavid's production? Okay, now I'm ranting...

Forum: Armchair-GM5 févr. 2020 à 7 h 25

Sujet: Summer After Deadline Transplant

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bluetomorrow83</b></div><div>Nurse is trying to use Trouba but his comparable should be Esa Lindell or at most Josh Morrissey</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>Those guys had lots of RFA years being bought up. Trouba deal bought up 1 year of RFA. Nurse would be getting 2 years of RFA being bought up if he signed a mega deal this summer. Thats why its smart to avoid it now when the team cap structure needs a season or 2 to breath.</div></div>

Morrissey and Lindell have just 2 RFA years on their new deals - <em><strong>exactly the same number as Nurse has</strong></em>.

Forum: Armchair-GM29 déc. 2019 à 12 h 18

Sujet: Goldobin

Could probably get Goldobin for less.

Seriously the Oilers should take a flyer on Goldobin, Baertschi, L.Andersson or Ho-sang, can't see the acquisition costs being too much and if it doesn't work out demote them and what'd you lose out on, probably a mid to late round pick which isn't a major loss.

Forum: Armchair-GM7 nov. 2019 à 20 h 53

Sujet: Fixing the bottom 6

I'd honestly wouldnt waste a 1st + a 2nd on these guys. You could get a top line forward for that

Forum: Armchair-GM20 oct. 2019 à 16 h 34

Sujet: Oilers Summer of Double 20

Absolutely no need to sign Gustafsson. We don't need a 5.5 million dollar dman playing 3rd pairing minutes. Like the idea of getting hoffman, but he'll make more money than that

Forum: Armchair-GM29 sept. 2019 à 22 h 53

Sujet: Haydn Fleury

With Jones and Broberg on the way, this doesn’t really make sense, especially when you already have Klefbom and Nurse in the top 4

Forum: Armchair-GM27 juill. 2019 à 12 h 8

Sujet: Oilers get a 3C-Realistic CanucksSensNYRJackets trades

Most of Holland's work was to undo what Chiarelli did, and it's glaringly obvious that he's looking at a 3-year fix it window. If you're undoing that work, you're trying to bring back the Chiarelli-era Oilers.

A quick comparison of assets in vs assets out, and you've accomplished exactly that: you've purged 5 picks, two prospects, a potential reclamation project in Puljujarvi, a viable PK forward and two expiring one-year deals for.... Sutter and Buchnevich? Goldobin is as much of a question mark as Puljujarvi and the Condon swap is actual trash. Gagner is at least a 4th-line forward, but Condon isn't even a viable AHL goaltender ESPECIALLY when Edmonton already has to loan the loser of Skinner vs Wells to another franchise.

This doesn't look like a stronger roster (Paajarvi is not a third-line forward in the NHL) but it probably plays better. Unfortunately, it's not accomplishing the goal of building the team internally through the draft and short UFA deals that can be flipped at the deadline. You've Minnesota'd the team, and a mid-teens pick isn't helping this team anytime soon.

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