Hell no

Edit : woah my bad I thought we were trading OUR first for two 2nds

Yes if there a player we really want at that spot!

Care to explain?
Cause your getting pick number 23 for pick number 39 and 61

pick 20 currently*

It all depends on who’s at 23. For example foerster or Perrault than I think that’s a good gamble. If both are gone I don’t see anyone worth it

dumb trade for whoever has 23. Cost of moving from 39 to 23 is like pick 37.

It's honestly easy yes for MTL. That's a big jump.. Normally trading down in this area would be like ~5 spots for a mid 2nd. So pick #20 equals pick #25 and pick in #50 range, Prefect recent example of this was 2018 draft NYR/OTT trade #22 for #26 and #48. MTL needs to add quite a bit honestly. EDM #20 for MTL #39 and CHI #40 is probably closer to correct value but still short. Moving up is expensive

I'm still in agreeance with @CD282: the player Edmonton selects at #20 is too worthwhile to trade away for second round picks. Puljujarvi and Benning need to be the pieces used to bring in additional picks.

Considering the depth of this years draft, I don't see a big difference between 20 and a very early 2nd. There's going to be drop obviously, but it's not sa big as you would think. Whoever trades down wins 99% of the trades this year unless there is a serious slide.

Most of the right-handed centers (one of the things Edmonton's system desperately lacks) available at #20 have top-six potential. The same cannot be said for the players available in the second round.

Also, that's not really how draft depth works. It's more akin to how many near-bonafide first line players exist at the top of the draft. This year, it dips into about the early 20's. The residual effect of middle sixers and role players being more readily available into the second round happens yes, but largely it just means there's more quality at the top.

For sure but we aren't talking about the top end of the draft. We are talking around 20-45 where it's mostly 2nd line potential guys. It's like going from Samuel Poulin to Raphael Lavoie. Yeah, it's a drop, but they both have similar ceilings.

The easiest and really only way to validate something like this is to see if something similar happened in history before. Judging from what I've quickly looked up I think Habs would do this in a New York minute and Edmonton would be unwise to.

Based on previous history, it would be closer to the Habs 39th & 40th pick for 23rd.

It really all depends on whose available as that spot that is the driving force behind a team willing to make a trade like this. It has more to do with a MTL really liking someone they feel is that range all while EDM feeling that the players available at 23 are no better that the ones in the 39-40 range. All depends on scouting reports and GM's motives really.

I've read scouts who think the "depth" of this draft is in the first 23-25 players, after that there's a drop-off. Many drafts have only 15-20 players of that caliber, this one has 7 or 8 more.

Trading down from #20 would be a significant loss in value.

Sure as a Habs fan yes.

Moving from #23 (likely #20, BTW) to #39 is going to cost a lost more than #40. That's a move of sixteen spots.

Looking at the past 2 drafts confirms this:

2019

- PHI moved #11 for #14 + #45. Moving back 3 picks cost ARI a mid-2nd.

2018

- TOR moved #25 for #29 + #76. Moving up 4 picks in the late 1st round cost STL a mid-3rd. This appears to be the weakest of the deals in the past 2 years.
- OTT moved #22 for #26 + #48. Moving up 4 picks in the late 1st cost NYR a mid-2nd.

No way any savvy GM is going to trade out of the first round and down 16-19 spots for just a mid-2nd. Clearly past transactions indicate that the #20 pick is worth much more than that.

MIN holds #25 and #42 while SJS has #28 and #34. These would be more realistic returns for #23, but if Edmonton has #20 (as they do by points percentage) I don't think it would be worth giving up for either of those deals.

Yeah that looks about right. I didn't have time search up any of them but I remember those now and that looks about what I expect too.