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Équipe: 2024-25 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 18 juin 2024
Publié: 18 juin 2024
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This Defense would be DISGUSTING.


Hughes clearly looks like someone who wants to make the playoffs next year.
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This should be MORE than enough.
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Lindstrom Falls to 7.
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18 juin à 1 h 7
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Sens decline.
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"This should be MORE than enough" lol

Doesn't provide enough at all.
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Quoting: Lancebmx
"This should be MORE than enough" lol

Doesn't provide enough at all.



Mailloux is probably worth a first alone. He destroyed the AHL and is a rare quality RD. There’s no one like him on the market. He would fetch us a top 16 pick easily. He would be the top4 RD you’re looking for if Parekh is gone.

I’m adding a 1st and a 2nd on top of that.

Please don’t say it " it doesn’t provide enough at all "

In term of real value, this is a massive overpay that no GM would pay. But casuals like y’all won’t understand how it works.
18 juin à 1 h 40
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Mailloux is probably worth a first alone. He destroyed the AHL and is a rare quality RD. There’s no one like him on the market. He would fetch us a top 16 pick easily. He would be the top4 RD you’re looking for if Parekh is gone.

I’m adding a 1st and a 2nd on top of that.

Please don’t say it " it doesn’t provide enough at all "

In term of real value, this is a massive overpay that no GM would pay. But casuals like y’all won’t understand how it works.


if that package is soooo good and an overpay, why do you want to trade it away...
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18 juin à 1 h 46
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Quoting: batman
Mailloux is probably worth a first alone. He destroyed the AHL and is a rare quality RD. There’s no one like him on the market. He would fetch us a top 16 pick easily. He would be the top4 RD you’re looking for if Parekh is gone.

I’m adding a 1st and a 2nd on top of that.

Please don’t say it " it doesn’t provide enough at all "

In term of real value, this is a massive overpay that no GM would pay. But casuals like y’all won’t understand how it works.


Yeah we will pass you Cayden just so we can have a sex offender!!! If Cayden drops to #7 he's ours.
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if that package is soooo good and an overpay, why do you want to trade it away...


Gotta give to get. For Lindstrom, it’s absolutely worth it. We already would have had drafted Dickinson before. Losing Mailloux wouldn’t hurt and we would get our 2C.
And we have 1 million dmen.
Would leave day1 with two cour pieces.
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Yeah we will pass you Cayden just so we can have a sex offender!!! If Cayden drops to #7 he's ours.



Fair enough.

Maybe Staios would rather go for need with a top4 RD tho.
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Mailloux is probably worth a first alone. He destroyed the AHL and is a rare quality RD. There’s no one like him on the market. He would fetch us a top 16 pick easily. He would be the top4 RD you’re looking for if Parekh is gone.

I’m adding a 1st and a 2nd on top of that.

Please don’t say it " it doesn’t provide enough at all "

In term of real value, this is a massive overpay that no GM would pay. But casuals like y’all won’t understand how it works.


Bro, if Mailloux is so good, why are you trading him away? Don't you think if Montreal thought player at 7OA, which you choose Lindstrom, is worth this 'crazy' package don't you think Ottawa would as well? Don't you think they would rather get the substantially better player? I guess this is something casuals like y'all won't understand.
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Quoting: batman
Fair enough.

Maybe Staios would rather go for need with a top4 RD tho.


Possibly but I think he would be foolish to pass up Cayden at #7 which would already be insanity to see him drop that far.
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Bro, if Mailloux is so good, why are you trading him away? Don't you think if Montreal thought player at 7OA, which you choose Lindstrom, is worth this 'crazy' package don't you think Ottawa would as well? Don't you think they would rather get the substantially better player? I guess this is something casuals like y'all won't understand.


Bro maybe you should understand that we have GUHLE HUTSON REINBACHER AND IN THIS CASE DICKINSON. Loosing Mailloux is ok and Lindstrom would be a NEED and a player we really want.

Ottawa would trade the pick since Parekh would be gone and they really like the offer. They get more picks and a top4 RD that they are looking for.

Use your brain bro, it’s not that hard to understand.
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Possibly but I think he would be foolish to pass up Cayden at #7 which would already be insanity to see him drop that far.


I think it’s becoming more and more possible to see him drop far. His injury is very serious apparently. Don’t think he gets past Utah tho.
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Sens dropping back 19 spots and out of the top 10, with a divisional rival no less, and all they get for it is a mid 2nd next year and a prospect with 1 NHL game under his belt and off-ice controversy…

How on earth is that fair value for the Sens lol. You even say “more than enough” like you’re proposing something lopsided in favour of the Sens.

If Mailloux was some can’t miss, guarantee top4 RD prospect then Habs wouldn’t be trading him since they lack RD prospects after Reinbacher.

Why wouldn’t the Sens just keep their pick and take Dickinson or Lindstrom in this case? And if they desperately wanted a RD if Parekh was gone then they’d just take Yakemchuk.
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I think it’s becoming more and more possible to see him drop far. His injury is very serious apparently. Don’t think he gets past Utah tho.


Man I'm hoping you guys don't pick him at least if he does drop past Columbus. Cayden + Slaf will be really annoying to play against
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Bro maybe you should understand that we have GUHLE HUTSON REINBACHER AND IN THIS CASE DICKINSON. Loosing Mailloux is ok and Lindstrom would be a NEED and a player we really want.

Ottawa would trade the pick since Parekh would be gone and they really like the offer. They get more picks and a top4 RD that they are looking for.

Use your brain bro, it’s not that hard to understand.


If you have all those left handed defensemen, why are you picking another one at 5? Why not just take Lindstrom and keep Mailloux? If Parekh is gone, there are a dozen other high end prospects they can take, they don't have to take a RHD and even if that was the case, Yakemchuk is likely available. Also if those players you said are gone, then either Buium or Silayev would be available at 7. Not to mention Iginla, Eiserman, Catton, Sennecke, Nygard and then some. They have another first round pick, they can draft Emery or Elick or some other RHD if they don't take one at 7. All this deal does is give them greatly less quality which is not something they need right now.
Maybe you should try and use your brain, it's really not that hard to understand.
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Mailloux is probably worth a first alone. He destroyed the AHL and is a rare quality RD. There’s no one like him on the market. He would fetch us a top 16 pick easily. He would be the top4 RD you’re looking for if Parekh is gone.

I’m adding a 1st and a 2nd on top of that.

Please don’t say it " it doesn’t provide enough at all "

In term of real value, this is a massive overpay that no GM would pay. But casuals like y’all won’t understand how it works.


Would you trade 5th overall for 25th overall, a 2025 2nd and a prospect who's maybe worth another late 1st round pick?

It's not even close to an overpay. I wouldn't trade 7th overall for 3 picks in the 20s/30s, quality over quantity in the NHL
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If Lindstrom is such a big target why wouldn't Montreal take him at 5? If they pass on him at 5 there's no way they're trading enough to move back to 7th to grab him.

Just for reference the type of trade it would require for the Sens to even THINK about doing it would be 7 OA for 26 (WPG 1st), MTL 2025 1st, and CGY 2025 1st. Otherwise expect to have to put Guhle in the trade.
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A 2nd round pick, late first, and a sex offender likely isn't gonna push Ottawa to move 7th overall


hes not a sex offender... he was convicted illegally distributing a photo of him and a woman engaging in a sex act.
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Quoting: StutzlesNumber1Fan
Yeah we will pass you Cayden just so we can have a sex offender!!! If Cayden drops to #7 he's ours.


And here is stupid... The famous Sex Offender comment. yes he's got a legit case against him, do you even know what he did? Do you even know he was an underaged kid who slept with a legal aged woman but, as kids do these days, decided to share a pic with some of his friends and got in trouble for it. That's it.. He, a minor, slept with her, an adult aged woman, and shared a picture.

Wonder what would be worse, an 18yr old girls sleeping with a 16yr old guy, or sharing a picture. Don't say it like he raped someone. It was an offense in THAT country, also in this country, his name would not have been released since we have different laws protecting minors.
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Quoting: TkachukNorris79
Would you trade 5th overall for 25th overall, a 2025 2nd and a prospect who's maybe worth another late 1st round pick?

It's not even close to an overpay. I wouldn't trade 7th overall for 3 picks in the 20s/30s, quality over quantity in the NHL


"Would you trade 5th overall for 25th overall" Not if that 25th is Mailloux.. He was supposed to have gone way sooner, but clubs decided to wait until 2nd round to pick him up. It's the only "coup" that Bergevin is worthy off right now where he knew he was going to get picked, so he jumped on it first at 25th.. He would've gone between 8 and 15th when it all blew up. And by the way he's played last year... Habs aren't going to give that up unless it's actually 100% worth it and a sure deal..

I'd give Ottawa Barron and WIN 1st, plus a 2nd.. Ottawa is going nowhere fast unfortunately with their new Headcoach..
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Quoting: batman
Bro maybe you should understand that we have GUHLE HUTSON REINBACHER AND IN THIS CASE DICKINSON. Loosing Mailloux is ok and Lindstrom would be a NEED and a player we really want.

Ottawa would trade the pick since Parekh would be gone and they really like the offer. They get more picks and a top4 RD that they are looking for.

Use your brain bro, it’s not that hard to understand.


Still... I wouldn't give them Mailloux.. Him and Reinbacher will be a top duo, Guhle/Hutson (if Hutson can show he's NHL material with at least a year under his belt) would be the next top pair.

I'd give 'em a pick of Barron, Harris, or Struble .. Even Barron and one of them plus the picks. All NHL able players that can grow, but .. Ottawa still hired one of the worst possible available coaches out there..
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Would you trade 5th overall for 25th overall, a 2025 2nd and a prospect who's maybe worth another late 1st round pick?

It's not even close to an overpay. I wouldn't trade 7th overall for 3 picks in the 20s/30s, quality over quantity in the NHL


Quoting: Lancebmx
If you have all those left handed defensemen, why are you picking another one at 5? Why not just take Lindstrom and keep Mailloux? If Parekh is gone, there are a dozen other high end prospects they can take, they don't have to take a RHD and even if that was the case, Yakemchuk is likely available. Also if those players you said are gone, then either Buium or Silayev would be available at 7. Not to mention Iginla, Eiserman, Catton, Sennecke, Nygard and then some. They have another first round pick, they can draft Emery or Elick or some other RHD if they don't take one at 7. All this deal does is give them greatly less quality which is not something they need right now.
Maybe you should try and use your brain, it's really not that hard to understand.


Quoting: JoBeMi
Sens dropping back 19 spots and out of the top 10, with a divisional rival no less, and all they get for it is a mid 2nd next year and a prospect with 1 NHL game under his belt and off-ice controversy…

How on earth is that fair value for the Sens lol. You even say “more than enough” like you’re proposing something lopsided in favour of the Sens.

If Mailloux was some can’t miss, guarantee top4 RD prospect then Habs wouldn’t be trading him since they lack RD prospects after Reinbacher.

Why wouldn’t the Sens just keep their pick and take Dickinson or Lindstrom in this case? And if they desperately wanted a RD if Parekh was gone then they’d just take Yakemchuk.


I don’t think that y’all understand that Mailloux is worth a top 16 pick and that he’s superior than Yakemchuk Jiricek and the others.

13th + 26th + 2nd is enough for 7th no?
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hes not a sex offender... he was convicted illegally distributing a photo of him and a woman engaging in a sex act.


Ok

Still someone you want in your locker room?
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I don’t think that y’all understand that Mailloux is worth a top 16 pick and that he’s superior than Yakemchuk Jiricek and the others.

13th + 26th + 2nd is enough for 7th no?


Then just keep him if he is worth so much. Montreal has poor RHD depth, why are they trading one? Ottawa doesn't want to make this trade, simple as that. It's not every year you get a top 10 pick, they aren't going to trade it for less quality, even if the seller figures the value is there.
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Then just keep him if he is worth so much. Montreal has poor RHD depth, why are they trading one? Ottawa doesn't want to make this trade, simple as that. It's not every year you get a top 10 pick, they aren't going to trade it for less quality, even if the seller figures the value is there.


Why keep him when we just drafted Dickinson at #5? We would just move Guhle on the right since he didn’t look bad with Mathewson. We then get two cour pieces in Lindstrom/Dickinson by moving the extra valuable assets we already have.


You’re right for the Ottawa one. But you could get creative and pack up the #26 and #28 to move up back in the top 15.

You then could end up with Mailloux Sennecke/Eiserman and a 2nd for the guy at #7.
 
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