Trading Cirelli

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Créé par: JTBF81

Équipe: 2024-25 Lightning de Tampa Bay

Date de création initiale: 6 juin 2024

Publié: 7 juin 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

I don't think Tampa is actually taking offers on Cirelli, but thisnkind of trade would at least be one they'd consider. They shouldn't Wang lottery tickets or unproven prospects, but a proven NHL player in return. The other trades could be tweaked as needed in terms of pick value, but it's an idea of what Tampa could do with the F situation if Cirelli, plus the other three that are often mentioned, are traded.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Goncalves, Gage		1	800 000 $
Raddysh, Taylor		1	815 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Stamkos, Steven	4	6 500 000 $
Motte, Tyler	1	900 000 $
Roslovic, Jack	3	3 000 000 $
Noesen, Stefan	3	3 200 000 $

Transactions

TBL

Quinn, Jack
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (BUF)

BUF

Cirelli, Anthony
Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (TBL)

TBL

FC, team doesn't have to be S.J. here, just a placeholder for this lineup.

SJS

Sheary, Conor
Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (EDM)
Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (TBL)

TBL

Raddysh, Taylor [Droits de RFA]
Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (CHI)

CHI

Jeannot, Tanner
Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (CHI)

TBL

Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (VAN)

VAN

Perbix, Nick

Rachats de contrats

Vincent Lecavalier: 0 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	87 700 000 $	87 640 833 $	0 $	987 500 $	59 167 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Hagel, Brandon 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AG UFA - 8	Point, Brayden 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ C, AD NMC UFA - 6	Kucherov, Nikita 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ AD M-NTC UFA - 3
Stamkos, Steven 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AG, C UFA	Roslovic, Jack 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ C, AD UFA	Quinn, Jack 863 333 $863 333 $ (850 000 $$850K) AD, AG RFA - 1
Noesen, Stefan 3 200 000 $3 200 000 $ AG, AD UFA	Paul, Nicholas 3 150 000 $3 150 000 $ C, AG NTC UFA - 5	Eyssimont, Michael 800 000 $800 000 $ AD, C UFA - 1
Motte, Tyler 900 000 $900 000 $ AG, AD UFA	Glendening, Luke 800 000 $800 000 $ C, AD, AG UFA - 1	Raddysh, Taylor 815 000 $815 000 $ AD RFA

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Hedman, Victor 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 1	Raddysh, Darren 975 000 $975 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Vasilevskiy, Andrei 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 4
McDonagh, Ryan 6 750 000 $6 750 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 2	Cernak, Erik 5 200 000 $5 200 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 7	Johansson, Jonas 775 000 $775 000 $ G UFA - 1
Sergachev, Mikhail 8 500 000 $8 500 000 $ DG/DD NTC UFA - 7	Crozier, Maxwell 867 500 $867 500 $ (57 500 $$58K) DD RFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Lilleberg, Emil Martinsen 870 000 $870 000 $ (80 000 $$80K) DG RFA - 1
Chaffee, Mitchell 800 000 $800 000 $ AD UFA - 2

7 juin à 18 h 11

thewookie1

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Buffalo would decline in this case

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7 juin à 18 h 12

BUF10

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Quinn has higher upside and is probably better or close to being better than Cirelli right now.

FoxYou727 et palhal a aimé ceci.

7 juin à 18 h 12

wojme

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Idk man a young inexpensive top six forward and a second for an overpaid 3rd line forward sounds good to me /s

palhal a aimé ceci.

7 juin à 18 h 12

FoxYou727

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Buffalo says no, Cirelli will have a bunch of teams interested tho

7 juin à 18 h 15

Fjordy

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Buffalo pass

7 juin à 18 h 19

EmailTruck

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I don't think that Raddysh would cost much-- he's a 26 year old coming off a 14 point season-- but I don't see why the Hawks would give up a pick and Raddysh for a 27 year old coming off a 14 point season with a $2.6 million cap hit.

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7 juin à 18 h 29

littlejerryseinfeld

Rejoint: nov. 2017

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It should be illegal to make Quinn trades.

Adams 1st draft pick and we essentially sabotaged our season hoping he would be healthy. He is going to have a monster season

7 juin à 18 h 30

littlejerryseinfeld

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Quoting: wojme

Idk man a young inexpensive top six forward and a second for an overpaid 3rd line forward sounds good to me /s

Cirelli is perfect. But not for Quinn.

Trade the 1st and a prospect

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7 juin à 18 h 39

WJC_Enthusiast

Rejoint: juin 2023

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Idk if Buffalo would move Kulich for Cirelli, but if I were Tampa, Kulich would be the first guy I'd try to get from BUF if I traded Cirelli to them

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7 juin à 18 h 51

#10

JK74

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Quoting: EmailTruck

Perfectly said!

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7 juin à 18 h 55

#11

Hawksguy81

Rejoint: nov. 2022

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Hawks probably only make that trade if their plan isn't to qualify Raddysh. If they are going to resign him, that's too much for Jeannot.

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7 juin à 19 h 3

#12

Maniaked

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I'm not doing that as a Tampa fan, trading our second line center and getting another wigner in return make little sense. I like Quinn a lot tho, he would be a good fit otherwise but, we can't run a team with Roslovic or Paul as our 2nd line center. I feel like this would make more sense on a Cernak deal. Let's say, Cernak and a 4th for Quinn.

7 juin à 19 h 4

#13

Snowhawk18

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I would think the higher pick would be going to Chicago in the Raddysh/Jeannot trade since it is Tampa who is cap strapped. Having said that I would do the player swap straight up.

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7 juin à 19 h 41

#14

rktkt66

Rejoint: juin 2018

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Sabres and Lightning are in similar boats - both are in a "win now" mode so making a lateral move of proven players going each way isn't likely. The Sabres want a proven 3C - preferably younger than older - but odds are they don't want to rob their current core or NHL roster to acquire him.

Of course, Lightning aren't interested in picks or prospects, which is the main currency that Buffalo would want to use.

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7 juin à 19 h 47

#15

jakdonaghy

Rejoint: juin 2018

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San Jose should be calling for Jeannot. Need some toughness in that forward group to shield the rookies

7 juin à 19 h 50

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KPM12

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Quoting: thewookie1

Buffalo would decline in this case

Cirelli is a really ideal 2c but I agree that Buffalo declines, Quinn has fantastic offensive microstats and with new coaching hopefully it results in an increase in counting stats (not that I am overly confident in Ruff as a coach)

7 juin à 19 h 52

#17

KPM12

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Quoting: Maniaked

Cernak the last two seasons prior to the 3 cup final runs has not been a very good player at all. That would be an easy no for buffalo

7 juin à 20 h 7

#18

Maniaked

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Quoting: KPM12

Cernak the last two seasons prior to the 3 cup final runs has not been a very good player at all. That would be an easy no for buffalo

Cernak is a great player lmao

7 juin à 20 h 9

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KPM12

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Quoting: Maniaked

Cernak is a great player lmao

The last two seasons have been horrific for cernak. Not the same player he was prior to the extension at all. Evolving hockey, Rono analytics, all3zones pretty much show consensus on that

7 juin à 20 h 13

#20

Maniaked

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Quoting: KPM12

The last two seasons have been horrific for cernak. Not the same player he was prior to the extension at all. Evolving hockey, Rono analytics, all3zones pretty much show consensus on that

The whole Tampa defense as been awful, not Cernak.

7 juin à 20 h 23

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JTBF81

Démarrer sujet

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Quoting: BUF10

Quinn has higher upside and is probably better or close to being better than Cirelli right now.

Far from better than Cirelli right now. Maybe higher upside.

7 juin à 20 h 24

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JTBF81

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Quoting: wojme

Idk man a young inexpensive top six forward and a second for an overpaid 3rd line forward sounds good to me /s

We ell since he's a 2C, okay

7 juin à 20 h 26

#23

JTBF81

Démarrer sujet

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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

Cirelli is perfect. But not for Quinn.

Trade the 1st and a prospect

No thanks, Tampa shouldn't be moving him for maybe targets.

7 juin à 20 h 28

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wojme

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Quoting: JTBF81

We ell since he's a 2C, okay

He's not a 2c though

7 juin à 20 h 29

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JTBF81

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Quoting: WJC_Enthusiast

Idk if Buffalo would move Kulich for Cirelli, but if I were Tampa, Kulich would be the first guy I'd try to get from BUF if I traded Cirelli to them

Tampa is not in a re-build nor re-tool, so Cirelli should only be available if the main piece in return is someone proven at the NHL level, not a prospect with 1 game of experience. Not saying that Kulich or Savoue aren't guys Tampa would look for ornthat they won't have solid careers, but Tampa shouldn't be moving Cirelli for them.

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Trading Cirelli

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