IMO that's a gross overpay for Mangiapane.

I'm a big fan of his game, but Girard, and a 1st is too much for him.

Is Vladar really worth nothing? Flames should’ve moved him earlier

Avs decline heavily. Very heavily.

We have no center depth we aren’t moving Frost for a late 2nd

Best to just stick to your Canadiens there bud. You have no clue or idea when it comes to the Flames, their Future, their Needs and the Type of Players we want, which definitely doesn’t include any of the Players you proposed Trading for or Signing via Free Agency. The Grade is definitely an F on this one

Leafs aren’t adding a 1st in that package; you’ve lost the plot bud 😂

That's fair, I could see the package just being a swap with a late-round pick, but to me it really depends on the situation with the Avs, if they retain salary, and if there is a long-term contract involved. Girard had a pretty down year, and at the cap hit, he hasn't really impressed me this year.

Also if Val is still gone I could see them targeting a longer-term replacement, especially if he comes back and his problems continue.

Dumping a contract a 2.4 million dollar contract, and getting a 30-goal scorer is worth more than 2 players who haven't been anything more than depth players on the Leafs. I would say you could probably swap it for a second-rounder it would be closer to market value, but it is not out of the realm of possibility.

But fair point anyways, I just think 82 games of Sharangovich is worth more then who the Leafs would select.

Yeah Christ I did not realize how badly Laughton and Couturier fell off this year until after looking at your comment. But as I said, the Flames could target basically any young center on the market if they feel the fit is right, just though Frost could be an interesting fit.

Sorry to hear you don't like it man. This is just my opinion, so I could be (and almost like 100%) most likely wrong about every move the Flames and all other teams will make this offseason lol. I would say for the Flames though, they lack a true direction right now. They are bogged down with a lack of true speed or skill. Guys like Zary and Coronato have impressed me from the game footage I've seen, so hopefully they become something more.

I simply don't think they can just run it back with that team unless they are confident that Huska can somehow figure out how to get them to play night in and night out as this aggressive rush team that focuses on constant cycling and quick zone entries. Just my 2-cents though.

I definitely don't watch the flames as much as you, what do you think is their biggest needs or future concerns?

Kampf is not a cap dump; he’s paid too much but $750K will hardly break the bank.
Robertson scored at a higher rate than Sharangovich (g/60, 5v5). So did Bobby McMann.
Leafs wouldn’t add any pick and I still wouldn’t make that trade.
You’re over estimating value of your players - it’s counterintuitive and makes no sense, but pretty typical behaviour from fans of non playoff teams 🤷🏻

Sorry to be so brash, you handled that and responded like a Champ

I agree the Flames and specifically Huberdeau could use more speed in the lineup, so I’ve been recommending a Better and/or Faster Centre for Huberdeau, like perhaps Chandler Stephenson (hoping he likes the idea of being a Top Organiziational Centre) and a Speedy Gritty Finishing Winger like Anthony Duclair, but what we’ve been lacking is guys who want to be and play in Calgary and our identity is Big & Gritty, so bringing in a guy like Ryan Graves and a Cheap 3rd Pairing RD in Kovacevic or Hakanpaa to compete with Pachal is where I’d start

So long as we have Kylington, we don’t need a Grzelcyk or Girard type player, especially given we have two other Young Offensive D-Men in Miromanov & Poirier who have something to prove, which then makes Liljegren unnecessary as well. A couple Veterans to Mentor & Shelter them and eventually Brzustewicz is what we really need on the back end. Tanev returning to play with Kylington would be ideal, but who knows if that happens. Ppl have suggested Gio or TJ Brodie, but I say No Thanks to that; it’s time to move on and forward, not go backwards

If we have Pelletier (who likely signs for under $1mil/yr btw), we don’t want or need another Small Left Shot Winger in Robertson

We’re not giving up on Vladar or Huberdeau yet and will keep and see what Kuzmenko, Sharangovich and Mangiapane do given they are playing for new contracts while seeing if Zary, Pospisil, Coronato or Pelletier can unseat any of them. I’d also rather target/pursue so many other Young Centre’s over Frost as well, who I’m just not a Fan of

I would prefer a better 4C, but not Kampf. I’d rather Pospisil be 4C and would like to bring in Samuel Blais or simply bring back AJ Greer for that 4th Line Checking/Grit role when needed, something Adam Klapka & Dryden Hunt might be able to do and fill in for us too

Finally we need to Trade and move-on from Markstrom while he still holds decent value and hand the reigns over to our Goalie of the Future in Dustin Wolf 🐺

Huberdeau-Stephenson-Duclair
Kuzmenko-Kadri-Sharangovich
Mangiapane-Backlund-Coleman
Pelletier/Zary-Zary/Pospisil-Coronato/Pospisil
x-Blais/Greer-Hunt/Schwindt/Klapka
(Either go with a Skilled Young Guns OR Grit 4th Line)

Weegar-Andersson
Graves-Miromanov
Kylington-Hakanpaa/Kovacevic
x-Pachal/Solovyov

Wolf
Vladar
Raanta (Good Mentor for Wolf and/or for our most recent Finnish Goalie Signing in the AHL)

Omg you really “burned” him !!

If they target a top 6 wing then it would almost certainly be re-signing Drouin and Girard didn't have a down year. That's nonsense.