Wild accept

I had to think about it for a few minutes but I think the caps end up declining here.

I will fully admit I thought long and hard about it too, and had doubts on if I'd do it as NJD

The value gap between the picks according to puckpedia is equal to 32nd overall.

So then the question becomes, 31st overall+Holtz or Fehevary+TVR.

I fully understand why Washington would pass.

Sturm won't move until TDL unless its an offer SJ can't refuse.

Yeah sure it can wait till then

No thanks. Wahlberg is a keeper.

Bill Guerin says thank you for bailing me out from a huge mistake!

Do you have an alternative C prospect you would suggest that would fit value wise around a high 2nd ish?

No.

Samuelsson for marino

Then I'd have to say good luck on your search for a RHD elsewhere

Not looking that hard

That’s fine
Bc we sure as hell aren’t gonna overpay for Marino

Wahlberg PLUS a 1st…. Keep dreaming
That’s just absurd

Well what would your valuation of Wahlberg on his own be?

I don’t think he’s a guy we are looking to deal

It’s not about valuations
I just don’t think our GM is ready to start throwing around our good prospects for aging Vets

We are still focused on building from within & developing our young talent


If we go after a RD by trade, that means we are moving on from Jokiharju & looking for an upgrade

So a trade we might- MIGHT- do, could be something like Jokiharju + for a CLEAR upgrade
Probably someone better than Marino imo
He hasn’t exactly been “great” lately

Marino just turned 27.

Marino is without a doubt a massive upgrade on Jokiharju lmao

Put aside whether he is available, that is a separate discussion.

What would his valuation be? because I am currently valuing him equivalent to an early 2nd.

I think your valuation is in the ballpark
But again, it’s not about valuation. I’ll believe our GM is looking to move out prospects when i start seeing it happen- or AT LEAST start hearing legit rumors that we’re looking to make moves like that

I don’t think the Sabres are looking to make the kind of deal u want us to do with u guys

Sorry

Perfect. Good to know.

My thought process was with Tage, Cozens, Kulich, Savoie, Krebs, Ostlund.

Wahlberg may be the odd man out. That was simply from an outside perspective, you as a buffalo fan would be much more in tune with that than me

At this point, what is Krebs future looking like? Projecting like a 3C/4C?

You aren’t wrong, we are definitely going to be overloaded at Center- really at forward in general (all those guys play the wing too, but we still don’t have room for ALL of them)

But it doesn’t seem like the GM is ready to start moving out bodies yet
That might be a mistake, but it’s what it seems like

Krebs hasn’t been disappointing as much as he’s just been buried- but now that we traded Mittelstadt, it’ll be interesting to see if the Sabres give him his shot at 3C, or if we keep him as our defensive center & bring in another guy

I think- if given the chance- he projects as an above average 3C who could move up or down the lineup if needed- especially if he gets a chance to start using his offensive skills more often

Interesting. I think NJD would have some interest in Krebs as well if he were to be made available.

Thanks for putting it in perspective like that. In that case I’m pretty confident the caps pass but I get why NJ would too.

Again, not likely imo
If we move Krebs, then we have to add 2 Centers to our lineup

Fair. A lot of the variation in viewing probably hinges on the valuation of Holtz. I have him valued somewhere as a mid/late 1st (but would only move him in a trade like this for a guy I like).

Theres a lot of variations I’d be willing to play with around the base of 10th for Fehervary+, or Holtz+ for Fehervary, or 2025 1st+ for fehervary.

Just curious, is there any prospect(s) that, if they fell to 10, would make you accept?

How far away are the prospects (Kulich, Savoie, Ostlund) from being ready to meaningfully contribute in the NHL?

Savoie and Ostlund haven’t even gotten to the AHL yet
And we are at the point where we aren’t “rushing” to get talent here- we’ve made that mistake too many times

Kulich could be ready for next season
But there’s talk that he could end up a winger in the NHL- or at least start there
Same basic talk with Savoie, but i think the Sabres wanna see him get some time in the AHL

Ostlund still projects as a 2way Center for the middle6
Again, likely to go to the AHL first & not jump right to the Sabres

Ostlund



Samuelsson will become an even bigger favorite of Ruff's than he was of Granato's. He's not getting swapped.



I'd take the Wahlberg-for-Marino deal and offer Buffalo's 2nd (43rd OA). If NJ wants 11OA, they'd have to add another body that can contribute rather than 42nd OA.