No thanks from Detroit. Holl has a fairly cheap buyout.

Detroit declines, Yzerman has already said that he's not giving up 2nds to move bad contracts.

And buy out on Justin Holl is only around $4,500,000 for 4 years pass.

No reason for the Sens to do that even assuming you've gotten the NJD pick. And I doubt you get those picks for taking on those players.

If they want Yakem it makes sense, if they want Parekh/Iginla you have to pick at 7.

Nah, Detroit just buys out Holl. We keep the 47th overall pick.

Just for the sake of it, would you pay a 2nd for us to take Holl+Fabbri? Fabbri+Chiarot? All 3? Not serious, just curious

No Fabbri should get at least FC and Lalonde and Yzerman love Chiarot he was actually not that bad for us this past season.

Yeah I didn't spend too much time thinking through the values specifically, just used core pieces I've seen folks putting out there with a 2nd in dump offers. Helpful feedback though

Good to know! The way I see wings fans talk about Fabbs and Chiarot sometimes you'd think they were chopped liver

No. Not paying 2nds to dump any contract or combination of contracts. Wings have enough cap space to re-sign Raymond and Seider. Fabs only has 1 year left, Holl is a cheap buy out. Chiarot is a solid physical defender, he's just overpaid by about 2 million per season but his contract is not currently putting the wings in cap hell.

Helpful! My calibration was definitely off on those guys lol

I'd say the only one that's killing us is Andrew Copp, He's making almost $6,000,000 and the production just isn't there Hopefully he gets his act together this fall or that contract is really going to hurt us.

Ah I completely forgot about Copp. I would've included him in my op

I can't believe no one has made a Simple Jack reference!

A lot of that is how Lalonde uses him. Not directly Copp's play falling off. Copp has said he's be asked to be a checking role and not a scoring role. He's paired primarily with checking Wingers. Give Copp time in the top 6 and his production goes up. That said he's definitely overpaid for how he's being used on the 3rd line.

Exactly this.

If the Isles were trading Pageau or Lee to Chicago it would have happened today IMO