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Is one of Cernak or Cirelli on the way out

Créé par: gpmack95
Équipe: 2024-25 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Date de création initiale: 22 mai 2024
Publié: 22 mai 2024
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  1. Cirelli, Anthony
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (TBL)
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  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (CGY)
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  1. Perbix, Nick
  2. Sheary, Conor
  3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2024 (CHI)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (EDM)
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  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (NYI)
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  1. Raddysh, Darren
  2. Choix de 7e ronde en 2025 (MIN)
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  1. McBain, Jack
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (SJS)
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  1. Jeannot, Tanner
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (NYI)
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22 mai à 21 h 0
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Raddysh is our best RHD and is on a bargain deal. After the season he just had he could get an early 2nd at least due to his contract. Cernak and Cirelli are both untradable.
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Quoting: BoltsFan9186
Raddysh is our best RHD and is on a bargain deal. After the season he just had he could get an early 2nd at least due to his contract. Cernak and Cirelli are both untradable.


why are they untradable?
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22 mai à 21 h 6
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Quoting: gpmack95
why are they untradable?


Depends who you ask. I've seen other Bolts fans saying Cirelli is available so idk lol
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22 mai à 21 h 8
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Cernak NTC. Plus if they trade him then they acquired Mac for no reason. Raddysh def a bad move here, hes producing way more than what his contract is worth. Everything else looks good here, would like to get more for perbix tho as he can be a 3rd liner on most teams in the NHL.
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22 mai à 21 h 8
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cernak definitely not cirelli potentially
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22 mai à 21 h 11
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Quoting: StutzlesNumber1Fan
Depends who you ask. I've seen other Bolts fans saying Cirelli is available so idk lol


From what I've been reading and seeing, the TB fans who have no idea how the salary cap works believe that Cirelli and Cernak aren't moving. Anyone with a brain can understand that Cirelli is overpaid. He just doesn't give you the offensive play that you expect a 2nd liner to do with Stammer/Hagel. 2nd line C for 6.5m + should be producing 60-70 points.. and be able to play defense since he is a C. If you can't find that in a player, then take 800k and resign Motte who can do it defensively like Cirelli and use the remaining of his contract to get more offensive.
22 mai à 21 h 12
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Could both be? Move them each for cheaper options?
22 mai à 21 h 14
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
Could both be? Move them each for cheaper options?


I would prefer to trade Cernak, but NTC makes it much harder and hes injury prone last 2 years. Cirelli will give you much more return.
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22 mai à 21 h 20
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Quoting: Rav
I would prefer to trade Cernak, but NTC makes it much harder and hes injury prone last 2 years. Cirelli will give you much more return.


Cernaks NTC doesn't kick in until July 1st right?
22 mai à 21 h 22
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neither Cirelli or Cernak will be traded it makes no sense for us to do that. to clear space for Stamkos we look to trade Sheary and Jeannot and that will do it.
22 mai à 21 h 29
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Cernak NTC. Plus if they trade him then they acquired Mac for no reason. Raddysh def a bad move here, hes producing way more than what his contract is worth. Everything else looks good here, would like to get more for perbix tho as he can be a 3rd liner on most teams in the NHL.


None of Cernak, Cirelli, or Sergachev has protection until July 1st. Making them extremely easy to move before those clauses kick in. I find TBL fans delusionally optimistic about Stamkos' next contract. He can easily get $8m/yr. for at least a couple seasons. He's not signing <$6m unless he is getting length in years that matches out the overall money. That leaves TBL with three tradeable assets to makeup enough money: Sergachev, Cernak, Cirelli. Personally, I don't like any of them at their cap hits. But I'm guessing with McDonagh back one of the dmen is getting moved.
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22 mai à 21 h 56
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Quoting: jfkst1
None of Cernak, Cirelli, or Sergachev has protection until July 1st. Making them extremely easy to move before those clauses kick in. I find TBL fans delusionally optimistic about Stamkos' next contract. He can easily get $8m/yr. for at least a couple seasons. He's not signing <$6m unless he is getting length in years that matches out the overall money. That leaves TBL with three tradeable assets to makeup enough money: Sergachev, Cernak, Cirelli. Personally, I don't like any of them at their cap hits. But I'm guessing with McDonagh back one of the dmen is getting moved.


I don't think any of the defenders are getting moved. My guess is they aren't bringing back Stamkos but if they are it's probably Cirelli who is getting moved. McDonagh doesn't have term so they will be in need of defense sooner rather than later, but I think they realized that their D-core needed all 4 of Hedman, Sergachev, Cernak, and McDonagh. If they do move someone like Sergachev, I would imagine it would be for another defender like Chychrun or Theodore who won't need to be paid until next year.
23 mai à 8 h 54
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I don't think CHI will be interested in a Sheary dump. But, I do think they would be interested in acquiring Perbix.
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