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(NSH/TBL) - McDonagh, 2024 4th (EDM) for 2025 2nd (TBL), 2024 7th (TBL)

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23 mai à 17 h 3
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You would think that if Tampa wanted a Dman, they could have got one, just as good UFA cheaper than 6.5m and not give up any picks.
That's getting to a real expensive defence for Tampa, and not necessarily THAT good.
Seems like Tampa has really mismanaged their cap....and draft picks recently.
24 mai à 19 h 47
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Say what you will but when Brisebois decides he wants a player he gets him.
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Say what you will but when Brisebois decides he wants a player he gets him.


Yeah got to respect the balls to make this type of move; and the fallout of "who doesn't he want" (Stamkos or Cirelli?)
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Yeah got to respect the balls to make this type of move; and the fallout of "who doesn't he want" (Stamkos or Cirelli?)


Could also be Hedman... His contract's up and TBL has 2 top LDs signed through 26-27
26 mai à 13 h 33
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Could also be Hedman... His contract's up and TBL has 2 top LDs signed through 26-27


Doubt it's Heddy. Without him they only have 3 top 4 Dmen. Handedness hasn't mattered in Tampa in years. Sergy is really good on the right side. A top 4 of Mac, Sergy, Cernak and Heddy is formidable. They can Protect Lilliberg Crozier as they develop.

If there's a move to be made to keep Stammer is from the forward group (that's already depleted)
26 mai à 17 h 38
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Yeah got to respect the balls to make this type of move; and the fallout of "who doesn't he want" (Stamkos or Cirelli?)


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Could also be Hedman... His contract's up and TBL has 2 top LDs signed through 26-27


To quote Brewster's millions "None of the above."
26 mai à 19 h 7
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To quote Brewster's millions "None of the above."


Then what?
26 mai à 20 h 34
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Doubt it's Heddy. Without him they only have 3 top 4 Dmen. Handedness hasn't mattered in Tampa in years. Sergy is really good on the right side. A top 4 of Mac, Sergy, Cernak and Heddy is formidable. They can Protect Lilliberg Crozier as they develop.

If there's a move to be made to keep Stammer is from the forward group (that's already depleted)


Sure... But I also see them moving on from Hedman and giving the reigns from Sergachev as last year during the playoffs (I forgot when), Cooper was talking about Sergachev like he was another Hedman...

Then they can sign Stammer, keep Cirelli and gain more assets via an expiring 33 y/o Hedman
26 mai à 20 h 45
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Quoting: Dan_the_Man
To quote Brewster's millions "None of the above."


So how do you fit under the cap?

You can't possibly ask Stamkos to do a 1 by x after not contacting him all season long about an extension
26 mai à 20 h 55
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So how do you fit under the cap?

You can't possibly ask Stamkos to do a 1 by x after not contacting him all season long about an extension


Nope he signs 5x5.5(+-)a couple hundred K and go with rookies and league minimum vets
26 mai à 20 h 57
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Nope he signs 5x5.5(+-)a couple hundred K and go with rookies and league minimum vets


Still over the cap and under 20 man roster requirement
26 mai à 20 h 57
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Sure... But I also see them moving on from Hedman and giving the reigns from Sergachev as last year during the playoffs (I forgot when), Cooper was talking about Sergachev like he was another Hedman...

Then they can sign Stammer, keep Cirelli and gain more assets via an expiring 33 y/o Hedman


You see about as well as Ray Charles then
26 mai à 20 h 57
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Still over the cap and under 20 man roster requirement


No they dump Sheary and Jeannot
26 mai à 21 h 36
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No they dump Sheary and Jeannot


With what picks?
26 mai à 22 h 34
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With what picks?


Jeannot won't cost I've seen all kinds of people paying from a 2-6 for him. Sheary takes about a three. Brisebois figures it out
27 mai à 8 h 16
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Jeannot won't cost I've seen all kinds of people paying from a 2-6 for him. Sheary takes about a three. Brisebois figures it out


Both also have a 16 team M-NTC though... You sure GMs won't try to take advantage of that?
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Both also have a 16 team M-NTC though... You sure GMs won't try to take advantage of that?


Sheary played with a broken wrist from November on according to BRISEBOIS maybe he cost a small amount. Jeannot still returns a mid to late round pick enough teams value you his physicality were any cap situation is offset by the fact several teams would value what he brings.
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Sheary played with a broken wrist from November on according to BRISEBOIS maybe he cost a small amount. Jeannot still returns a mid to late round pick enough teams value you his physicality were any cap situation is offset by the fact several teams would value what he brings.


But again, why would GMs pay assets for either of those 2 when they know TBL wants to sign Stammer? Why wouldn't they ask for compensation?

That's why Brisebois should have signed Stammer, made the dump then made the trade unless something else is in the works
27 mai à 9 h 33
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But again, why would GMs pay assets for either of those 2 when they know TBL wants to sign Stammer? Why wouldn't they ask for compensation?

That's why Brisebois should have signed Stammer, made the dump then made the trade unless something else is in the works


Because there is this thing called competition if 3-5 GMs want him the price goes up DUH are you really that simple you can't understand such a basic concept? I'm not saying they recoup most of those assets but so.eone will give a small something for Jeannot if you don't think so you're wrong. Sheary maybe a 5th at most he's got a cheap contract and before playing an entire season with a broken wrist was a quality bottom 6er.
27 mai à 9 h 35
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Because there is this thing called competition if 3-5 GMs want him the price goes up DUH are you really that simple you can't understand such a basic concept? I'm not saying they recoup most of those assets but so.eone will give a small something for Jeannot if you don't think so you're wrong. Sheary maybe a 5th at most he's got a cheap contract and before playing an entire season with a broken wrist was a quality bottom 6er.


But that is the thing... Nobody wants him! If someone did, Brisebois would have made the trade already bc of TBL's cap situation

Neither one have proven to be valuable... And now TBL's cap situation forces a trade or the loss of Stamkos
6 juin à 20 h 23
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And now TBL's cap situation forces a trade or the loss of Stamkos


I suspect they've talked with Stamkos enough that they're confident they can sign him. They'll probably give him a longer term than they should at his age and guarantee he'll be a Lightning for life in return for a lower AAV. Maybe Stamkos wanted McDonagh back, and he's agreed to take a big pay cut so they can afford to bring him back.

Or maybe it's the opposite. Maybe the talks with Stamkos haven't gone well and they've given up trying to sign him, so they know they'll have cap space to bring McDonagh back.

I guess we'll find out some time in the next month.
6 juin à 20 h 26
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I suspect they've talked with Stamkos enough that they're confident they can sign him. They'll probably give him a longer term than they should at his age and guarantee he'll be a Lightning for life in return for a lower AAV. Maybe Stamkos wanted McDonagh back, and he's agreed to take a big pay cut so they can afford to bring him back.

Or maybe it's the opposite. Maybe the talks with Stamkos haven't gone well and they've given up trying to sign him, so they know they'll have cap space to bring McDonagh back.

I guess we'll find out some time in the next month.


Maybe... But 5 mill in cap space with 2 more players needing to be signed would mean Stammer would have to take a major discount to have a slightly worse team than TBL's last game against FLO
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Trade confirmed: [url=/teams/predators]Nashville Predators[/url] - [url=/teams/lightning]Tampa Bay Lightning[/url]


F*ck it, add stamkos to the package, cause that what happen
 
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