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Équipe: 2024-25 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 17 mai 2024
Publié: 17 mai 2024
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DET
    Doubt he's available, just gauging conversation. Would DET move him?
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    OTT
      Do you think OTT would consider moving him, with Greig and Pinto taking steps forward?

      My issue with Norris is he's a 60pt center who makes just under 8m and is never healthy. But, it's an option?
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      PHI
        Had his ups and downs this season. I'd take a swing on him if the price was right
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        17 mai à 18 h 58
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        There was a really good 2C available recently. He signed long term for 5.6M/. Would have been a great choice
        17 mai à 18 h 59
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        I like Norris as a potential option but my concern with him is the same as Jack Eichel... good player... never healthy
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        17 mai à 19 h 0
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        Quoting: NYR1983
        There was a really good 2C available recently. He signed long term for 5.6M/. Would have been a great choice


        Yes but that contract is gonna look brutal on the back half and that would screw our contention window
        17 mai à 19 h 0
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        Quoting: NYR1983
        There was a really good 2C available recently. He signed long term for 5.6M/. Would have been a great choice


        If this is supposed to be a "gotcha", I didn't like the KK OS either. I would have preferred to keep Trochek. Thing is, nobody guessed he's jump up from a 40-50pt middle 6C and go sicko mode. So, not much of gotcha
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        As an Avs fan, I can tell you that JTC is not a legit 2C; he's an overpaid 3C that can fill in at 2C in a pinch but you'd be sorely disappointed in him as a 2C. Love what he did as an Av but if he really were a 2C, they'd have found a way to keep him.
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        17 mai à 19 h 2
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        Quoting: NMAvsFan
        As an Avs fan, I can tell you that JTC is not a legit 2C; he's an overpaid 3C that can fill in at 2C in a pinch but you'd be sorely disappointed in him as a 2C. Love what he did as an Av but if he really were a 2C, they'd have found a way to keep him.


        The C market may be thin this offseason with few "good" options. If he can get around 50ish points in that role he's immediately better than KK or Kuzy.

        Don't think DET moves him tho
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        Marco Rossi, Mikael Granlund, Elias Lindholm, or Brock Nelson are all much more palatable options to me personally
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        Quoting: FlameFlameFruit
        If this is supposed to be a "gotcha", I didn't like the KK OS either. I would have preferred to keep Trochek. Thing is, nobody guessed he's jump up from a 40-50pt middle 6C and go sicko mode. So, not much of gotcha


        He was stuck in a defensive system with some stars but no superstars. It’s much like taking Strome from NYI and putting him with bread. Barzal would take a 20pt jump too in an offensive system. This being said it’s possible that Aho in a different system could take that jump too. It’s just unfortunate that they are held back in that sense
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        Quoting: seanrushton
        Marco Rossi, Mikael Granlund, Elias Lindholm, or Brock Nelson are all much more palatable options to me personally


        Nelson is unlikely to move and he's too old to look towards long term.

        I'm not big on Rossi, but maybe a Necas/Rossi framework?

        Granlund is very inconsistent. You never know if he's gonna pop off or go ghost.

        EL is good but... he migh tdemand around 8m and I don't think he's worth that
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        Quoting: NYR1983
        He was stuck in a defensive system with some stars but no superstars. It’s much like taking Strome from NYI and putting him with bread. Barzal would take a 20pt jump too in an offensive system. This being said it’s possible that Aho in a different system could take that jump too. It’s just unfortunate that they are held back in that sense


        In another timeline, a NYR / CAR series would be incredible to watch if Rod wasn't driving our team into a ditch
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        17 mai à 19 h 8
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        Norris isn't an option.
        17 mai à 19 h 9
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        Quoting: Adir4
        Norris isn't an option.


        Probably for the better. Not too keen on an 8m 2C who isn't healthy. Just gauging conversation
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        17 mai à 19 h 11
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        Quoting: FlameFlameFruit
        Nelson is unlikely to move and he's too old to look towards long term.

        I'm not big on Rossi, but maybe a Necas/Rossi framework?

        Granlund is very inconsistent. You never know if he's gonna pop off or go ghost.

        EL is good but... he migh tdemand around 8m and I don't think he's worth that


        My plan with Nelson would be to draft somebody like Dean Letourneau and use Nelson as like a stopgap

        I can see Rossi+ for Necas

        Fair enough on Granlund

        Lindholm is not getting $8m for a variety of reasons
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        Quoting: seanrushton
        My plan with Nelson would be to draft somebody like Dean Letourneau and use Nelson as like a stopgap

        I can see Rossi+ for Necas

        Fair enough on Granlund

        Lindholm is not getting $8m for a variety of reasons


        Yeah, I don't think he's worth 8m at all but a LOT of teams need a player like him and might overpay. If that's the case I hope we take our bid out
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        Quoting: FlameFlameFruit
        In another timeline, a NYR / CAR series would be incredible to watch if Rod wasn't driving our team into a ditch


        The thing is… he’s a good coach but the team probably needs a change much like Rod. The series was awesome and way closer than 4-2 would suggest.
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        Quoting: FlameFlameFruit
        Yeah, I don't think he's worth 8m at all but a LOT of teams need a player like him and might overpay. If that's the case I hope we take our bid out


        That's a fair point but none of the GMs who could realistically get/need Lindholm are gonna panic and give him $8m... I'd be willing to give him $7 on a short term deal if we can move our a couple of contracts to fix that problem
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        Quoting: NYR1983
        The thing is… he’s a good coach but the team probably needs a change much like Rod. The series was awesome and way closer than 4-2 would suggest.


        Team had oodles of offensive talent but was limited to a coach too keen on a defensive, possession driven system that limited our stars.

        I do think Rod is a great coach, but not for us anymore. He needs to go.

        I'd LOVE to have a coach like Brunette behind our bench
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        Quoting: NYR1983
        The thing is… he’s a good coach but the team probably needs a change much like Rod. The series was awesome and way closer than 4-2 would suggest.


        I think this series was lost by Frederik Andersen and his massively subpar goaltending (.878). I think the Hurricanes need a changing of the guard at goaltending and a 2C and we'll be fine... Rod has shown a much more balanced approach towards the game this year and the playoffs showed it
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        Quoting: Adir4
        Norris isn't an option.


        He's absolutely an option - though would require a pick or player of value going the other way
        17 mai à 19 h 19
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        Quoting: FlameFlameFruit
        Team had oodles of offensive talent but was limited to a coach too keen on a defensive, possession driven system that limited our stars.

        I do think Rod is a great coach, but not for us anymore. He needs to go.

        I'd LOVE to have a coach like Brunette behind our bench


        I don't think this series was Rod's fault... It was mainly Freddie Andersen and that .878 save percentage
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        If I thought Detroit could sign Stephenson I'd trade Compher no problem.
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        Quoting: NYR1983
        There was a really good 2C available recently. He signed long term for 5.6M/. Would have been a great choice


        He didn’t want to say. He wasn’t a playoff difference maker for us.
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        Norris cant stay healthy, big pass.

        Frost isn’t a 2c
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        Quoting: FlameFlameFruit
        Probably for the better. Not too keen on an 8m 2C who isn't healthy. Just gauging conversation


        I believe the Sens will see how he does next season before they start looking at trade options.

        Although he's plagued with injuries, he plays a vital role in our core when he is healthy and they'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
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        Quoting: SensFan40
        He's absolutely an option - though would require a pick or player of value going the other way


        He's a key piece to our core, and when he's healthy he's shown that.

        I believe they won't look at trade options for him until after next season depending on the way the season turns out and if it affects his trade value or not.
         
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