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Taking what other teams are giving us

Créé par: Kyle_Davidson
Équipe: 2024-25 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 14 mai 2024
Publié: 14 mai 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
UFAANSCAP HIT
25 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
CHI
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DET)
DET
  1. Raddysh, Taylor [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (TBL)
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This trade is slightly modified, the inclusion of Raddysh, but I found it in a Detroit ACGM.

I love this move because it gets us within range to trade for a Yakemchuk trade up without depleting our draft capital. Holl is good Murphy injury insurance, and can rotate as a number 6/7 D.

I’m not sure if it fills a need for Detroit, but if they were open to this move I would take it 100/100 times
2.
CHI
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
NJD
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DET)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
3.
CHI
  1. Lee, Anders
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (NYI)
Détails additionnels:
A future first round pick in 25/26/27
NYI
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Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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UFA
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance900 000 $$900K)
AD, C
RFA - 2
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
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4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
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AG, C, AD
UFA - 1
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912 500 $912 500 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG
RFA - 1
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4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
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UFA - 6
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4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance1 000 000 $$1M)
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916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
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962 500 $962 500 $
G
RFA - 1
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855 833 $855 833 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
DG
RFA - 2
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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14 mai à 19 h 56
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Rather wait till Lee contract runs out
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14 mai à 20 h 0
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Rather wait till Lee contract runs out


Understandable.
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14 mai à 20 h 15
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Apparently we needed another thread to again explain that Detroit still isn't dropping 5 picks to clear a guy that can easily be bought out.
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14 mai à 20 h 18
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Devils certainly do not take that
14 mai à 20 h 23
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Please, Anders Lee is still good. Was the most unlucky player in regards to expected goals in the league this year and actually had great underlying numbers & analytics + the captain.
14 mai à 20 h 56
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Devils certainly do not take that


Seems like fair value IDK.
14 mai à 20 h 58
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Hawks add in Vancouver 2nd to wings deal
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14 mai à 21 h 0
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No thanks from Detroit. We can just buy him out if he can't be moved for cheap.
14 mai à 21 h 6
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Quoting: Kyle_Davidson
Seems like fair value IDK.


The gap between 10 and 20 is historically worth the equivalent of pick 23.

Or using picks you own picks 20, 34, and 53 for 10th

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14 mai à 21 h 12
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The gap between 10 and 20 is historically worth the equivalent of pick 23.

Or using picks you own picks 20, 34, and 53 for 10th

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That is 15 to 10.
14 mai à 21 h 17
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That is 15 to 10.


Ahh. In that case the gap would be equivalent to 34th overall. Perfect fit if you switch it to your own 2nd
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14 mai à 21 h 33
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Ahh. In that case the gap would be equivalent to 34th overall. Perfect fit if you switch it to your own 2nd


haha. Not quite.
14 mai à 21 h 36
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haha. Not quite.


The history of what it costs to move up suggests that is what it would take
14 mai à 21 h 42
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The history of what it costs to move up suggests that is what it would take


No it doesn't. Not quite that much. The 34th overall pick would be almost double the value of the gap between 15 and 10.
14 mai à 21 h 44
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No it doesn't. Not quite that much. The 34th overall pick would be almost double the value of the gap between 15 and 10.


Based on what historical comp?

The closest one out there is 12th overall for 17th+28th.
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No it doesn't. Not quite that much. The 34th overall pick would be almost double the value of the gap between 15 and 10.


To move up from 14th to 11th it cost 45th overall a few years ago

You are offering 15th and 53rd for 10th.
14 mai à 21 h 56
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No it doesn't. Not quite that much. The 34th overall pick would be almost double the value of the gap between 15 and 10.


This is a worthwhile tool for pick values

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#10 = 34.2
#15 = 24.9
#34 = 9.5
15 mai à 8 h 0
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Based on what historical comp?

The closest one out there is 12th overall for 17th+28th.


According to a study don't by the Sound of Hockey, which was done long before Puckpedia jumped on the "value calculation bandwagon" and put out their calculators.
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This is a worthwhile tool for pick values

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#10 = 34.2
#15 = 24.9
#34 = 9.5


Puckpedia is fine. But there are much more accurate studies that had been done long before Puckpedia jumped on the bandwagon a few months ago.
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According to a study don't by the Sound of Hockey, which was done long before Puckpedia jumped on the "value calculation bandwagon" and put out their calculators.


AZ moves up from 14th to 11th a few years ago.

Puckpedia predicts that would cost 47th
Sound of hockey predicts 62nd

Actual cost: 45th

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AZ moves up from 14th to 11th a few years ago.

Puckpedia predicts that would cost 47th
Sound of hockey predicts 62nd

Actual cost: 45th

Countless more examples Examples of puckpedia accuracy


Interesting. Kudos on putting in the work @NHLfan10506! Not sure how I missed that thread. It seems the Sound of Hockey and The Athletic use a lot more than just historical trade data to assign value, a sort of "overpayment vs actual value" scale. But if overpayment is what it takes to "get your guy", then so be it. There are roster, contract, and reserve limits to consider, as well. All of which CHI is currently approaching and aren't just going to go away. Not that they are a huge concern, but that just means that we can afford to start throwing more precise darts at the dart board rather than throwing a larger quantity of them. When has 'throwing a fist full of darts' ever really achieved anything, aside from being funny, anyway.
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