We would give you like a 7th for your cap dump and the sub 5’10 forward

You certainly aren’t gettting Franky

Such an extremely easy no from the Ducks

Jarnkrok isn’t a cap dump & that “sub 5’10” forward” scored at a 20 goal pace despite only playing 11 minutes a night and virtually no PP time - he even out produced Zegras. But good to know your personal bias takes leverage over facts.

SEA declines and blocks your number. That is a fortune for SEA to give up. You are asking for a top prospect, an established top 4 D-man, a top 6 winger, and 8OA for effectively just Marner. Lily would be relegated to a bottom pair D-man and SEA certainly doesn't need Kampf for the bottom 6. SEA isn't giving up all of that, plus taking on what is essentially cap dumps for a guy who is isn't signed long term when SEA also has Berniers they have to sign.

Marner is good, but he isn't worth that package for 1 year.

Exactly, give him top 6 minutes and time on PP1 and he can produce similarly to Vatrano, while better fitting the age of their core going forward, and not requiring a significant raise next summer. He’s likely a deadline deal for this very reason.

Value is fair imo.

1st + Nyman + Oleksiak for Marner
Burakovsky for Liljegren + Kampf

Seattle comes out of this a much better team, probably playoff worthy. You have several prospects ahead of Nyman, I purposely went down your depth chart and picked a lesser name.

Bjorkstrand Beniers Marner
Schwartz McCann Eberle
Tolvanen Wright Gourde
Kartye Kampf Tanev

Dunn Larsson
Evans Liljegren
DuMoulin Borgen


If you really don’t like it feel free to counter offer!

Little interest in Robertson, who would get the same limited ice time here in Anaheim that he gets in Toronto, and even less interest in Jarnkrok, whom every Toronto fan trading him wants to move because of his cap hit (as here). The Ducks would be unlikely to want to trade Vatrano unless they could get a first-round draft pick out of the deal, and that package isn't first-round value.

Right now, I think it more likely that Anaheim re-signs Vatrano to a new contract at the end of the season than that they trade him. But that's before seeing how he plays this year.

No actually Verbeek has been quoted many times saying he that wants size and that’s something he is looking for

Also if you want facts, when Zegras was healthy he was essentially a ppg pace as well

Playing through the exact same injury that kept Couture out basically all year to start the year and then he got his blessing in disguise in breaking his ankle giving him time to heal.

And despite the fact that Toronto was desperate for a LW all season long to play in the top 6, to the point where they were playing Jarmkrok there, tells us what about Robertson?

Zegras also gets top PP minutes and top 6 time. Robertson doesn’t. The fact that he’s even close to Robertson’s production is absurd for $7M

Who exactly is making 7 million?

I think he's confusing Zegras and Terry

Uh oh, don’t drop facts on them. I don’t think Toronto folk are in the proper headspace right now

Sorry, a small typo cause my thumb was too big and hit 7 instead of 6..

If SEA was really going to go after Marner it wouldn't be in a package like that. It would be just Marner and no other pieces would be involved from TOR's end. It would look something like

To TOR: Oleksiak, Burakowsky, Nyman, and either NYR's 2024 2nd or SEA's 2024 3rd

To SEA: Marner, who agrees to sign in SEA long term (e.g. 8x11-11.5)'

Team looks like:

McCann - Berniers - Marner
Schwartz - Wright - Eberle
Tolvanen - Gourde - Bjorkstrand
Kartye - FA signing - Tanev

I don't think TOR agrees to that, and I don't think the teams are great trade partners as it pertains to Marner, despite how much better Marner would assist this team. I just don't think Marner waives to come to SEA nor do I think the teams would come to an agreement on a price. SEA is not in a "win now" mode, and Marner isn't going to be difference-maker alone on this team. SEA would rather let their high-end prospects develop and join the team than spend like there is no tomorrow on high-end talent now.

Additionally, GMRF is not known for moving 1st round draft picks, and I don't think even someone who is as talented as Marner is likely to change that considering how many strong pieces are in the top 10 that could help SEA, especially on defense because the defensive pipeline is not very good.

We can easily just keep him, he's a good player. Not everything is a trick lol

1st has to stay in the deal, take out Nyman and replace him with lesser piece(s). There aren't many RWers who have outproduced Marner since he entered the league, so you don't get him for what essentially amounts to Burakovsky and Oleksiak. Like what makes them so valuable lol?