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Blues get their longterm superstar

Créé par: Connor_McJesus_97
Équipe: 2024-25 Blues de St-Louis
Date de création initiale: 24 avr. 2024
Publié: 24 avr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Captain: R.Thomas
Alternate captains home: J.Faulk, J.Kyrou
Alternate captains away: M.Marner, O.Sundqvist

Marner will come with an 8x11.5m extension
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RFAANSCAP HIT
23 500 000 $
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4800 000 $
3800 000 $
3800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
13 200 000 $
21 000 000 $
2800 000 $
45 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
STL
  1. Liljegren, Timothy [Droits de RFA]
  2. Marner, Mitchell
Détails additionnels:
Blues get a younger replacement to Parayko for the longterm future and they also get a true superstar
TOR
  1. Buchnevich, Pavel (2 900 000 $ retained)
  2. Parayko, Colton
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (STL)
Détails additionnels:
Buch comes with an 8 year 7.5m deal

Leafs attain a good top 6 player who can play with one of either Matthews or Tavares plus a great top 4 shutdown D-man in Parayko. 2nd is added as sweetender to make Leafs bite on this
2.
STL
  1. Östlund, Noah
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2026 (BUF)
Détails additionnels:
Lottery protected
BUF
  1. Schenn, Brayden (1 750 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Best deal you can get for him probably. Sabres decide that they want to push for the playoffs now and Schenn for 4.75m could be the guy to help them with that. I think Ostlund and lottery protected 2026 1st should be reasonable to ask for in this instance here
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2287 700 000 $85 228 595 $0 $475 000 $2 471 405 $

Formation

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AG, AD
NTC
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 2
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NMC
UFA - 1
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835 833 $835 833 $
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RFA - 1
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918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance475 000 $$475K)
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NTC
UFA - 2
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 3
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
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UFA - 3
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
RFA
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775 000 $775 000 $
G
RFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
DG
RFA
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24 avr. à 15 h 19
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Still absolutely not. Under no circumstances. And there's no way the Blues would pay whatever would want. Plus it's cute that Marner is a superstar somehow.

I'd do the Buffalo trade in a heartbeat, but they'd never offer that.
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Still absolutely not. Under no circumstances. And there's no way the Blues would pay whatever would want. Plus it's cute that Marner is a superstar somehow.

I'd do the Buffalo trade in a heartbeat, but they'd never offer that.


How is Marner not a superstar?
24 avr. à 15 h 29
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How is Marner not a superstar?


go check out leafs twitter
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laugh laugh Sure they do, Too bad neither Marner or Parayko waive to either team.
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How is Marner not a superstar?


Because he's soft as butter come playoff time.
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24 avr. à 15 h 31
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How is Marner not a superstar?


Heh. Yes, the superstar Leafs fans have been bashing and trying to get rid of for years. The superstar casual fans might not have heard of, in part because he’s never been out of the second round.

To be fair, he's far closer to being a superstar than Lily is to being a Parayko replacement. Yikes.
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24 avr. à 15 h 53
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You have effectively made our defense inoperable and extended the time frame to which our cap structure is absolutely trashed.

Marner is a very very good player. He does however not fit a need enough for the Blues to fork out what they'd have to to acquire him, and we can't exactly fix our problems while adding on his salary, and his expected contract extension.
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Quoting: mokumboi
Still absolutely not. Under no circumstances. And there's no way the Blues would pay whatever would want. Plus it's cute that Marner is a superstar somehow.

I'd do the Buffalo trade in a heartbeat, but they'd never offer that.


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You have effectively made our defense inoperable and extended the time frame to which our cap structure is absolutely trashed.

Marner is a very very good player. He does however not fit a need enough for the Blues to fork out what they'd have to to acquire him, and we can't exactly fix our problems while adding on his salary, and his expected contract extension.


This is from an Oiler fan 😂
24 avr. à 15 h 57
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Atrocious for Buffalo. Schenn is on the downside of his career and is currently a low 2C (if that). Making what he makes for the next 4 years (I saw the retention) is wild. The Blues would be lucky to move him with that retention for like a second, never mind a solid prospect and a first.
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Quoting: mokumboi
Heh. Yes, the superstar Leafs fans have been bashing and trying to get rid of for years. The superstar casual fans might not have heard of, in part because he’s never been out of the second round.

To be fair, he's far closer to being a superstar than Lily is to being a Parayko replacement. Yikes.


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Because he's soft as butter come playoff time.


Quoting: RClay321
go check out leafs twitter


I hate saying this because he's a Leaf but he would be the best offensive player to play for the Blues since Gretzky. I get he's considered soft in playoffs but he's also a top 3 RW in this league, while also being one of the best defensive wingers in the league.
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I hate saying this because he's a Leaf but he would be the best offensive player to play for the Blues since Gretzky. I get he's considered soft in playoffs but he's also a top 3 RW in this league, while also being one of the best defensive wingers in the league.


He's a better offensive player than Brett Hull? Since when? And the Blues don't care about "stars". They like balanced teams. They're not going to pay Marner 3-4M more than Thomas. And certainly not when the gutted defense means they won't contend for a while.

And I know he's a great player. Superstar is another animal. There are players far worse than Marner with bigger names as "stars".
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He's a better offensive player than Brett Hull? Since when? And the Blues don't care about "stars". They like balanced teams. They're not going to pay Marner 3-4M more than Thomas. And certainly not when the gutted defense means they won't contend for a while.

And I know he's a great player. Superstar is another animal. There are players far worse than Marner with bigger names as "stars".


I actually thought Wayne played in St Louis later than Hull. Thought Hull left for Detroit in 97 and Wayne was a Blue in 98 before the rangers.

I get the balance and I get why the Blues wouldn't do the deal but it doesn't stop the fact that Marner would instantly your teams best player and frankly I don't think even this deal gets him out of Toronto. Buch and Parayko are fine players but neither is a star or even a top line player, if Buchnevich was younger or Parayko ever hit his potential it's closer in value but as is the Leafs would only get rid of Marner for a top pairing D man or a young player that can replace him
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I actually thought Wayne played in St Louis later than Hull. Thought Hull left for Detroit in 97 and Wayne was a Blue in 98 before the rangers.

I get the balance and I get why the Blues wouldn't do the deal but it doesn't stop the fact that Marner would instantly your teams best player and frankly I don't think even this deal gets him out of Toronto. Buch and Parayko are fine players but neither is a star or even a top line player, if Buchnevich was younger or Parayko ever hit his potential it's closer in value but as is the Leafs would only get rid of Marner for a top pairing D man or a young player that can replace him


Dude, Marner is not better than Thomas. And Parayko is literally a 1RD who was the first Dman to lead the league in both blocks and takeaways. This deal would never be offered in the first place.

Hull was in STL two seasons past Gretzkys departure. And the Blues have had others just as good as Marner since.
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Dude, Marner is not better than Thomas. And Parayko is literally a 1RD who was the first Dman to lead the league in both blocks and takeaways. This deal would never be offered in the first place.

Hull was in STL two seasons past Gretzkys departure. And the Blues have had others just as good as Marner since.


I love Thomas, would say he's a top 15 center in this league, he hasn't come close to Mariners production or defensive ability. I also can't think of a single other player the Blues have had in the past 20 years who's been a 90+ point player consistently.

Parayko also isn't nearly as valuable as Blues fans on here want people to believe. Wouldn't even count him as a top 20 dman and analytics would say he's even worse than that. On an actual contender he should be on your second pair, like he was when the Blues won a cup.
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That Leafs trade is madness. I've noticed that it's always Leafs fans who offer the most ridiculous trades kek
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I love Thomas, would say he's a top 15 center in this league, he hasn't come close to Mariners production or defensive ability. I also can't think of a single other player the Blues have had in the past 20 years who's been a 90+ point player consistently.

Parayko also isn't nearly as valuable as Blues fans on here want people to believe. Wouldn't even count him as a top 20 dman and analytics would say he's even worse than that. On an actual contender he should be on your second pair, like he was when the Blues won a cup.


Dude, Thomas played right about the toughest minutes of any forward, if not the toughest. Near the very top of the league in puck battles won two years running. Elite in transition. He is Marner's equal defensively.

And none of that even matters because the Blues are not trading for an 11M winger, let alone one a year from leaving because the Blues are not paying whatever he'd ask.

As for Parayko, he is not available. Simple as. And if you point to analytics, that's just a dead giveaway you don't actually watch him play. Or understand analytics, for that matter.

The Leafs are not getting Parayko. Still.
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Dude, Thomas played right about the toughest minutes of any forward, if not the toughest. Near the very top of the league in puck battles won two years running. Elite in transition. He is Marner's equal defensively.

And none of that even matters because the Blues are not trading for an 11M winger, let alone one a year from leaving because the Blues are not paying whatever he'd ask.

As for Parayko, he is not available. Simple as. And if you point to analytics, that's just a dead giveaway you don't actually watch him play. Or understand analytics, for that matter.

The Leafs are not getting Parayko. Still.


And the Blues will forever be stuck in mediocrity, have fun
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And the Blues will forever be stuck in mediocrity, have fun


A Leafs fan saying this is the height of hilarity. It's stunning you don't realize this, man.
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A Leafs fan saying this is the height of hilarity. It's stunning you don't realize this, man.


Not a leafs fan hahaha
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25 avr. à 13 h 58
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Not a leafs fan hahaha


Blerg. Well, now you've gone and ruined the joke. squinty smile
 
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