People still forgetting the NMC

Or trade value...

Awful for the leafs.
Not only are goalies not worth near that much they downgrade massively on defence

No more so NMC

He's not gonna leave except for nothing in FA if we dont extend him

Thats just the cycle rn

Team waited to long for both him and or Willy

Not real familiar with the concept of leverage are we?

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/622508

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/526101

https://theleafsnation.com/news/mitch-marner-wants-remain-maple-leafs-understands-cannot-control-trade

https://theathletic.com/4165544/2022/07/20/matthew-tkachuk-tells-flames-he-wont-re-sign-long-term-trade-likely-sources/#:~:text=Tkachuk%20has%20not%20officially%20asked,that%20picked%20him%20at%20No.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/jack-eichel-discusses-trade-request-desire-disc-replacement-surgery/

Not necessarily...

There are other destinations that Marner would probably like to go, similar to Tkachuk and Eichel, minus him not asking or implying for a trade, unlike the other 2...

And spamming links without context is supposed to do what other than show you don't know how to use the insert link button?

Grew up a leafs fan

Gets to play with one of the greatest Centers of all time

Rejected 2 higher money offersheets to stay a leaf last time

Yea no Marner aint waiving lul. He asked for a NMC for a reason

Again two choices for us

Let him walk in FA and get nothing (again) or extend thats really it



Eichel left cause he was sick of Buffalo's 0 direction plan and Tkachuck left cause of Gaudreau leaving 0 comparable to Marner

they were articles and trades saying Tkachuk and Eichel wanted out of Cal/BUF and the return the Flames/Sabres got, then an article saying that Marner would like to remain a leaf, but he could be traded...

From CBJ lol... And he only threatened the Leafs with he OS to raise his price tag... We don't know if it was offered as nothing was accepted...

So I could see Marner waiving... To a team like VGK/DAL/COL/FLO, a team close to the cup, Orr a team close to home and he would be the guy in: MTL/OTT/BUF

Look at Gaudreau, born in NJ, chose to sign in Columbus

He got an OS from CBJ and NYI said no

The use of Gaudreau is silly. Was he traded no.

He left in FA and when it came to deciding where he went he fumbled that one lul. NJ offered him 250k less big woop should have went there over CBJ lul

In the end CGY got nothing for him

So we want that here?

Marner wont waive end of story done finished. Unless the Leafs become a lottery team he's sticking around like Willy and will get his payday and if not us with someone else when he leaves in FA for nothing

And for all those teams you used. Why would they want double digit Marner. They have cap problems of their own and cant afford him

Saying that like you talk to Marner on a day to day basis... Just like ROR wanting to stay in TO bc he was from here eh?

Ottawa: They are retooling in the summer, most likely with multiple millions of dollars going out, Marner becomes their star and guy

Montreal: This gives them flexibility with Slaf and accelerates their rebuild into competing with other teams as their prospects fill in

Buffalo, Similar idea to Montreal, but this locks them into a playoff spot

Vegas: We've seen how they are towards big fishes... Eichel, Pieterangelo, Hertl, etc.

Dallas: An upgrade and someone to feed Robertson the puck

Colorado: Gives them an insane big four, especially if there's 3rd party retention... A line of Drouin-Mack-Marner would go crazy with Rant, Middlestat, etc. as support

ROR didnt want to stay in Toronto because he didnt want to be behind Tavares and Matthews he even admitted that. He also indirectly attacked Keefe and since Keefe was sticking around put 1 and 2 together

Makes sense as look what he did in NSH as their 1c. Again not a good argument. If JT was not around ROR would have probs stayed here and been TOR's 2c

TOR wont trade with divisional rivals so put that nonsense aside as why make rivals stronger lul.

VGK, DAL, AVS have 0 cap space to take Marner and he wont waive anyways lul

Keep telling yah but you aint listening. Why would they want pending FA double digit Marner. They have cap problems of their own and cant afford him. And for Marner he wont waive so this is just getting silly. Teams who would have the cap for Marner and who would want Marner would be in the not interested list.

He either leaves in FA or signs an extension thats all there is to it cant see it cant help yah

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/why-ryan-oreilly-left-the-maple-leafs-for-nashville/ "“You could tell everything’s amplified,” O’Reilly said. “I don’t do it often, (but) it was a good thing when I played there that I didn’t turn on the TV much or turn on the radio, because there are (so many outlets) talking about it. … Everything’s covering it, talking about it. Here, it gets a little time on the TV, but it’s not everything. It is more than just a game there.”"... The lineup position was more of a rouse than it was why he left....

And Toronto's traded with MTL, OTT, BUF and other div rivals in the past lul... Vancouver and Calgary did it twice...

Vegas has enough cap; look at the Marner to VGK proposals on CF...

Colorado has 9.4 mill in space next year, with retention from a 3rd party, Marner easily fits under, or if Lekhonen/Colton go the other way

Dallas has 15+ mill next year and could move Faska/Marchment... All 3 can fit Marner, with help from a 3rd party, which happened in the EK65 deal and the Provorov deal...

Carolina is another team that could acquire Marner, with 30 mill in cap space next year

Again your just not getting it

California. Why would Marner want to go to lottery teams?

Kings are the only good one and they dont have the cap either


Dallas has a Dcore to improve, Nobody is taking Faksa without sweetners. Marchment sure but we dont want him lul.

Carolina has Guentzel, Necas, Pesce, and Jarvis to extend to they out

Your just spouting teams without thinking. In the end just cause they can fit does not mean they want. He's a pending FA and losing guys to make room for one guy doesnt make sense to many.

Going back to ROR he mentioned on various podcasts he wanted more opportunity among other factors. In TOR he would be behind JT and Matthews. 3c = guys who get more defensive starts. In NSH he's their top guy with Forsberg and Nyqvist rn on that top line. Gets top PP time, gets more mins more opportunity then he would here. He also per that final comment seemed to distrust Keefe and so when Keefe was returning the pieces came into place for a departure

Again the NMC is there for a reason. Marner does not want to go. If he does it will be because Leafs lowballed him in FA and he gets his money elsewhere and once again TOR will lose a good player for nothing

If we wanted change Willy and the M-NTC was the guy to go but the offers sucked and so we extended. If that was the case for him just imagine Marner. He's extending or leaving in FA and thats all there is to it. End of story done bye

California? I said Carolina... And if Necas went the other way and Pesce gets snatched up in FA... It does make sense

Dallas' Dcore is still good... And adding Marner makes their offence a top 3 one in the league...

Again, you refuse to look at the full picture, The Leafs had ROR on PP1, he was usually playing with Acciari and Knies, or with JT and Marner... He was getting opportunity on a cup caliber team...

Now think of the drama surrounding TOR, "I couldn't turn the TV or radio on"; Dubas, Holl, Kerfoot, core 4 potentially getting moved, he got to hang out with those people and the way they were treated, why would he want to subject himself to that kind of pressure, like he's stated multiple times...

Same thing can apply to Marner... We said similar things about Patty Kane, Jack Eichel, Erik Karlson, among others and yet, they got moved...

@aadoyle nailed it..Marner ain’t waiving; speculate all you want but it’s just a waste of everyone’s time. Rather focus on realistic options for next year

Honestly just let JT walk and then use the cap space

Marner 12.093m and then go get Bennett or someone for 5-6m

Then the following year McDavid lul

I think JT re-ups at too, but a significant discount to play 3C or 3W; maybe $3-4M. He’s still effective, just can’t drive a line against top defenders

Best advice is to move on due to the future of this team

Holmberg has shown he can play 3c and JT will be 34 at the end of his deal. Go get someone younger and who fits Brads new ideology

Sam Bennett

Cause yea come 2025 Leafs will have more graduates, and should look to a bit of a new direction