Markstrom value
-- If in February 2024, Markstrom (~$2m retained) = Holtz
-- Then in July 2024, Markstrom (~$2m retained) < Holtz
-- Markstrom was a 0.914 goalie before, has been an 0.888 goalie since
-- Markstrom approved trade to NJD, blocked trade elsewhere
-- Two seasons are fewer than three
Andersson value
-- Three or more pieces (player, pick, prospect)
-- Player: Marino
-- Pick: 2025 1st
-- Pick: 2026 3rd
-- Prospect: Salminen (fitting positional need)
-- Prospect: Stillman (Calgary connection)
-- Prospect: Can sub one better prospect for the two (ie, Hameenaho, Gritsyuk, Casey)
-- Plus any balance from Holtz for Markstrom (-$2m)
Great cause he costs more to get back! We love him and thanks for giving him up.
I'm very happy for his success and he's a great young player. I think back when the trade occurred I told you and some other sharks fans that you would be very pleased with Zetterlund.
There however is not a space on NJD to get him 15.5 minutes a night even strength+PP1 time, and I'm not sure he's a great fit into a defensive bottom 6 role.
I'm very happy for his success and he's a great young player. I think back when the trade occurred I told you and some other sharks fans that you would be very pleased with Zetterlund.
There however is not a space on NJD to get him 15.5 minutes a night even strength+PP1 time, and I'm not sure he's a great fit into a defensive bottom 6 role.
You 100% did and I was pissed we didn’t get Holtz. In retrospect he better fits our top 9 skill and style wise.
We also love Mukh as he is developing very nicely and then to add Musty who was a gift and has developed beyond my expectations so far, plus another pick this year that deal really worked out well for the sharks. And I have to believe the 2nd half of this season Meier is looking more like himself and will be valuable for you guys.
You 100% did and I was pissed we didn’t get Holtz. In retrospect he better fits our top 9 skill and style wise.
We also love Mukh as he is developing very nicely and then to add Musty who was a gift and has developed beyond my expectations so far, plus another pick this year that deal really worked out well for the sharks. And I have to believe the 2nd half of this season Meier is looking more like himself and will be valuable for you guys.
I was worried about Meier for a bit to start the year, especially with some ugly results battling the MCL injuries (that obviously I didn't know the extent of at the time, but I have been incredibly happy with what Meier has provided when healthy. Just need him to stay that way going forward.
Shakir was always a very underrated prospect. How is he looking, since I haven't gotten to watch a lot of him lately?
I was worried about Meier for a bit to start the year, especially with some ugly results battling the MCL injuries (that obviously I didn't know the extent of at the time, but I have been incredibly happy with what Meier has provided when healthy. Just need him to stay that way going forward.
Shakir was always a very underrated prospect. How is he looking, since I haven't gotten to watch a lot of him lately?
He looks like a legit 2nd pairing #3 D. He is solid 2 way guy but I don’t see him being a good top pair. Still he’s a super valuable guy.
He looks like a legit 2nd pairing #3 D. He is solid 2 way guy but I don’t see him being a good top pair. Still he’s a super valuable guy.
I don't think ANOTHER inexperienced 20 year old would have been the solution in NJD, but if we could have like a 26 year old version of Shakir that would be exactly what NJD needed on the left side
I don't think ANOTHER inexperienced 20 year old would have been the solution in NJD, but if we could have like a 26 year old version of Shakir that would be exactly what NJD needed on the left side
No I agree he was an ideal piece for you guys to move, I really feel this was one of those perfect deals where both clubs get exactly what they need.
No I agree he was an ideal piece for you guys to move, I really feel this was one of those perfect deals where both clubs get exactly what they need.
I loved everything about what Shakir brought, but unfortunately it's near impossible to try and develop 3 young dmen at once wile trying to compete. Win win trade in my eyes.
Any thoughts on Okhotiuk? In my eyes he was always a number 7 type dman with some grit. Would have been nice to keep around but probably lost to waivers if we didn't move him. Hatakka played way better than I expected him to in all honesty when he was called upon
I loved everything about what Shakir brought, but unfortunately it's near impossible to try and develop 3 young dmen at once wile trying to compete. Win win trade in my eyes.
Any thoughts on Okhotiuk? In my eyes he was always a number 7 type dman with some grit. Would have been nice to keep around but probably lost to waivers if we didn't move him. Hatakka played way better than I expected him to in all honesty when he was called upon
Hatakka and Okhotiyuk are exactly the same type of player, sharks dealt Okhotiyuk already lol.
They are ideal 7th D that can step in and play, but neither is layer are any more than that.
You 100% did and I was pissed we didn’t get Holtz. In retrospect he better fits our top 9 skill and style wise.
We also love Mukh as he is developing very nicely and then to add Musty who was a gift and has developed beyond my expectations so far, plus another pick this year that deal really worked out well for the sharks. And I have to believe the 2nd half of this season Meier is looking more like himself and will be valuable for you guys.
Crazy to me that Sharks fans were pissed at the return we got at the time, meanwhile all season they were begging for only a 1st + Holtz for Timo.
Crazy to me that Sharks fans were pissed at the return we got at the time, meanwhile all season they were begging for only a 1st + Holtz for Timo.
We all had the high pick blinders on thinking Holtz is a 50 goal scoring stud.
In truth the return Grier got is the best return he could have and the draft luck getting Musty helped a lot.
I was worried about Meier for a bit to start the year, especially with some ugly results battling the MCL injuries (that obviously I didn't know the extent of at the time, but I have been incredibly happy with what Meier has provided when healthy. Just need him to stay that way going forward.
Shakir was always a very underrated prospect. How is he looking, since I haven't gotten to watch a lot of him lately?