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Créé par: Cab17
Équipe: 2024-25 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 23 avr. 2024
Publié: 23 avr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
85 000 000 $
21 500 000 $
21 200 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
13 000 000 $
11 500 000 $
11 050 000 $
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2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2387 700 000 $88 525 714 $850 000 $600 000 $-825 714 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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8 205 714 $8 205 714 $
AG
UFA - 4
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8 350 000 $8 350 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 1
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
C
RFA
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4 975 000 $4 975 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
863 333 $863 333 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
AG
RFA
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
835 000 $835 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
775 000 $775 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
C, AD
UFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
8 000 000 $8 000 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
5 375 000 $5 375 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
8 050 000 $8 050 000 $
DG
UFA - 8
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance600 000 $$600K)
DG
RFA - 1
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805 000 $805 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
RFA
Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 1

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23 avr. à 9 h 12
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I accept that trade for PIT
23 avr. à 9 h 16
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Quoting: Pens3lieve
I accept that trade for PIT


You trust that Norris will be healthy? Dude’s had 3 major shoulder injuries and is on a massive ticket 😬
23 avr. à 10 h 3
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Quoting: Pens3lieve
I accept that trade for PIT


I don't. Even with their unspectacular seasons, Karlsson and Jarry are better than Chychrun and Korpisalo.

Per Evolving-Hockey, The Sens allowed 0.38 more goals against /60 with Chychrun on the ice then their average. Karlsson's defense is nothing to write home about, but he's not even close to that. The Pens allowed 0.02 goals against/60 *less* with EK on the ice than off. It also leaves the Pens with a chasm at RHD. We have like 5 righties in the system right now, and I think we'd get the best results from Chychrun by playing him on the left.

And Chychrun's defensive results are not helped by Korpisalo. By EH's model, Korpi's -13.18 GSAx was the NHL's worst. By Money-Puck's model, he allowed -16.1 GSAx, 2nd worst. By contrast, Jarry saved 11.78 and 2.6 GSAx respectively. Neither are great for what we're paying him, but significantly better than Korpisalo.

And yeah, EK and Jars are more expensive than Chychrun and Korpisalo, but the addition of Norris makes it so that Pittsburgh is taking on around $1M in cap space. Norris has high upside, but the risk from his health issues is just as high. If he doesn't bounce back, we'd be paying a ~50 point guy like an ~80 point guy.

Swapping defensemen and goaltending makes the Pens worse in the short term, and Norris is a huge risk that even if it pays off, is going to be stuck here throughout a rebuild instead of being on a contender. It's not worth it.
23 avr. à 10 h 9
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OTT declines, that would not get chych or norris yet alone both. OTT has zero interest in EK
23 avr. à 11 h 36
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Ottawa is giving up way too much
23 avr. à 13 h 40
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the pens are taking back way too much potential bad cap here.

I'd much rather have EK than Norris.
I would also rather keep Jarry over Korpisalo.

Say what you want on EK, that contract ends in 3 years. that Norris contract goes forever and is a potential bomb.
Jarry is moveable without taking cap back. There are plenty of teams looking for a goalie right now. If they wanted to move him they could, just not for the return they would want.
I don't think they do. I think they keep him and let him mentor Blom. Blom is on the cheap for 2 more years, and it makes the cap his for goalies nothing for PIT.
Maybe next year they move Jarry.
23 avr. à 15 h 36
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Ottawa is giving up way too much


do you think there's any chance OTT would be open to moving Norris? and if so what would they be looking for in return?
 
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