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Créé par: Droakner
Équipe: 2024-25 Ducks d'Anaheim
Date de création initiale: 19 avr. 2024
Publié: 19 avr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
sign Pesce to mentor either LaCombe or Mintyukov
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 725 000 $
11 000 000 $
67 500 000 $
21 250 000 $
1863 333 $
1925 000 $
2950 000 $
1775 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1775 000 $
1775 000 $
1775 000 $
47 100 000 $
Transactions
ANA
  1. Necas, Martin [Droits de RFA]
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2026 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
tried to think out of the box with this trade, didn't want to send to Montreal or another bottom feeder, what do yall think of the idea
CAR
  1. Zegras, Trevor
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
obviously the picks can be changed
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2087 700 000 $62 416 667 $0 $7 500 000 $25 283 333 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance950 000 $$950K)
AG, C
RFA - 2
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 250 000 $$3M)
C
RFA - 2
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C, AG
RFA - 1
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
AD
RFA
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 3
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
3 650 000 $3 650 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
925 000 $925 000 $
C
RFA
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
AD
RFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance800 000 $$800K)
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
6 400 000 $6 400 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
1 725 000 $1 725 000 $
DG/DD
RFA
7 100 000 $7 100 000 $
DD
UFA
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
812 500 $812 500 $
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
950 000 $950 000 $
DG/DD
RFA
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
RFA

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19 avr. à 13 h 43
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Zegras has more trade value then Necas so I don't know why they're including the better pick
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19 avr. à 13 h 49
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From a Canes fan, you're overpaying for Pesce. I think he's been a great player for many years but at his age I think 7.1 is way too much but at least the term is good. If it's paying more for less term then maybe but still seems a bit high.

Would also strongly consider the Zegras deal for Carolina. I don't disagree that there would be a slight nod in value towards Zegras, I think they're close enough that I'd take the younger/cheaper player.
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19 avr. à 13 h 50
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Necas is overvalued big time here
19 avr. à 13 h 51
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Quoting: Subbanator7667
Zegras has more trade value then Necas so I don't know why they're including the better pick


didn't know how much both teams would value both players, have seen Canes AGM's value him at Multiple 1sts and prospects (similar if not more to the Gentzel trade) and have seen ducks fans value Zegras quite low and high. so didn't really know who had the better advantage
19 avr. à 13 h 52
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From a Canes fan, you're overpaying for Pesce. I think he's been a great player for many years but at his age I think 7.1 is way too much but at least the term is good. If it's paying more for less term then maybe but still seems a bit high.

Would also strongly consider the Zegras deal for Carolina. I don't disagree that there would be a slight nod in value towards Zegras, I think they're close enough that I'd take the younger/cheaper player.


I would agree that I overpayed Pesce by maybe 1M but have a feeling that it will take that much to get him to go to the Ducks
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19 avr. à 13 h 59
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Ducks aren’t moving Zegras it’s as simple as that.

Seravalli started that whole garbage rumor without even considering some of the quotes that Greg Cronin and Pat Verbeek have outspokenly said about Zegras.

Necas could be a very very good fit for Anaheim, but it’s NOT at the cost to Trevor Zegras.
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19 avr. à 14 h 0
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didn't know how much both teams would value both players, have seen Canes AGM's value him at Multiple 1sts and prospects (similar if not more to the Gentzel trade) and have seen ducks fans value Zegras quite low and high. so didn't really know who had the better advantage


I get it, player values tend to vary fan to fan on this site. But Zegras is younger, cheaper and out produces Necas. Both aren't good defensively but Zegras has more potential so I give him the lead in trade value
19 avr. à 15 h 11
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Zegras is the far superior player, both on the eye test and advanced stats, we wouldn't trade him for Necas full stop.
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19 avr. à 15 h 52
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Would prefer to just swing for the fences on one of the elite RWs about to hit the market. We have the cap space, but losing Z is a huge blow (see our record this season before/after he returned from injury, despite losing some key players at the deadline).

I’m cool to overpay Pesce to lure him here on a shorter term deal as well

I think you completely forgot Zellweger though. He looks fantastic, definitely earned a full time spot in ANA next year
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19 avr. à 16 h 12
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I’d try more like 4 x $6,500,000 for Peace I think but I’d throw closer to 8 aav is if wants to take 2 years

Necas is a no thank you for me, guy is sort of like Dubois to me in the sense he will cost to much to trade for and then to resign which both won’t match his production — I’m keeping Z over him all day
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Quoting: Droakner
didn't know how much both teams would value both players, have seen Canes AGM's value him at Multiple 1sts and prospects (similar if not more to the Gentzel trade) and have seen ducks fans value Zegras quite low and high. so didn't really know who had the better advantage


No, you haven't seen Ducks fans value Zegras low, that has been from outside fans. He's close to untouchable as far as we're concerned, it would take an elite talent to get him.

Necas isn't elite, he's a decent/good top 6 player.
 
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