Canadiens 2024-2025

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Xhekaj, Arber	3	1 500 000 $
Barron, Justin	3	1 500 000 $
Ylönen, Jesse	2	900 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Marchessault, Jonathan	3	6 500 000 $

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
24	87 000 000 $	79 851 250 $	1 022 500 $	3 977 500 $	7 148 750 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Caufield, Cole 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 7	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 6	Slafkovsky, Juraj 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) AD, AG RFA - 1
Newhook, Alex 2 900 000 $2 900 000 $ C, AG RFA - 3	Dach, Kirby 3 362 500 $3 362 500 $ C, AD RFA - 2	Marchessault, Jonathan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG UFA
Smith, Reilly 5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 1	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C UFA - 1	Zetterlund, Fabian 1 450 000 $1 450 000 $ AD RFA - 1
Armia, Joel 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Dvorak, Christian 4 450 000 $4 450 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 1	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3
Roy, Joshua 835 000 $835 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 2
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG/DD RFA - 1	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 1	Montembeault, Samuel 3 150 000 $3 150 000 $ G UFA - 3
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2	Mailloux, Logan 875 000 $875 000 $ DD RFA - 2	Primeau, Cayden 890 000 $890 000 $ G RFA - 1
Xhekaj, Arber 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ DG/DD RFA	Harris, Jordan 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 1
Struble, Jayden 867 500 $867 500 $ (57 500 $$58K) DG RFA - 1	Kovacevic, Johnathan 766 667 $766 667 $ DD UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 2

17 avr. à 14 h 17

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sharcuda22

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Sharks for sure gonna pass on that. Zett is sticking around for sure unless the offer is a big big overpay

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17 avr. à 14 h 23

#2

LuckyMoneyPuck

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penguins aren't taking that anderson contract. They got 2 goal crashers in DOC and Bunting. Why they need a 3rd with a high cap hit for 3 years.

17 avr. à 14 h 41

#3

SolarHarbor

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Id press for a little more retain but i think id do the Anderson deal

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17 avr. à 14 h 44

#4

Headhack

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Quoting: sharcuda22

Sharks for sure gonna pass on that. Zett is sticking around for sure unless the offer is a big big overpay

Zetterlund had a 40pts season on a depleted Sharks team with 1st line minutes and PP. I like him as a 3rd liner RW which is what we need but let's not pretend he's worth 2 x 1st and a A prospect.

IMO Barron is already an overpay. Might not move him as you need NHL caliber players but yeah he ain't untouchable.

17 avr. à 14 h 59

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DFinn91

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No from the Sharks.

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17 avr. à 15 h 14

#6

Matt1567

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Quoting: Headhack

Zetterlund had a 40pts season on a depleted Sharks team with 1st line minutes and PP. I like him as a 3rd liner RW which is what we need but let's not pretend he's worth 2 x 1st and a A prospect.

IMO Barron is already an overpay. Might not move him as you need NHL caliber players but yeah he ain't untouchable.

43 points on the 2nd lowest scoring team isn't bad at all, especially for someone playing his 2nd full NHL season. He's a bit of a late bloomer, being 24 already but he's a cheap young forward that can score 20 goals on a bad team, sure he may not produce as well in a lesser role, but he's more important to the sharks than that trade package would be.

17 avr. à 16 h 46

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Quoting: Matt1567

43 points on the 2nd lowest scoring team isn't bad at all, especially for someone playing his 2nd full NHL season. He's a bit of a late bloomer, being 24 already but he's a cheap young forward that can score 20 goals on a bad team, sure he may not produce as well in a lesser role, but he's more important to the sharks than that trade package would be.

Quoting: Headhack

Zetterlund had a 40pts season on a depleted Sharks team with 1st line minutes and PP. I like him as a 3rd liner RW which is what we need but let's not pretend he's worth 2 x 1st and a A prospect.

IMO Barron is already an overpay. Might not move him as you need NHL caliber players but yeah he ain't untouchable.

When you can trade a youngish 20 goal scorer for a 22y/o who hasn’t quite stuck in NHL yet and wont be more than a 5/6 guy and you have a clogged blue line you gotta do it.

17 avr. à 17 h 5

#8

Matt1567

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Quoting: sharcuda22

When you can trade a youngish 20 goal scorer for a 22y/o who hasn’t quite stuck in NHL yet and wont be more than a 5/6 guy and you have a clogged blue line you gotta do it.

are you suggesting this is good for San Jose or am I misunderstanding what you mean? I see the benefit for Montreal 100%, but I don't get the incentive for San Jose to make this move

17 avr. à 17 h 7

#9

sharcuda22

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Quoting: Matt1567

are you suggesting this is good for San Jose or am I misunderstanding what you mean? I see the benefit for Montreal 100%, but I don't get the incentive for San Jose to make this move

There is no, its sarcasm because its value is way off and the main piece coming back is one the sharks already have x100. I also want to clarify that I never said the return for Zett would be a 1++. If he’s plays at the same pace and someone wants to trade for him. That’s a RFA 20 goal scorer x2 making under 2million and team control. He’s also a profile the sharks really really like. that means if he is gonna move it’s gonna be an over pay. You chose to take overpay as meaning 1st++ I didn’t say that @headhack

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17 avr. à 17 h 59

#10

Matt1567

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Quoting: sharcuda22

There is no, its sarcasm because its value is way off and the main piece coming back is one the sharks already have x100. I also want to clarify that I never said the return for Zett would be a 1++. If he’s plays at the same pace and someone wants to trade for him. That’s a RFA 20 goal scorer x2 making under 2million and team control. He’s also a profile the sharks really really like. that means if he is gonna move it’s gonna be an over pay. You chose to take overpay as meaning 1st++ I didn’t say that headhack

gotcha, that's what I was saying too, he'd cost more than the stats would suggest because he's young and on a team that needs pretty much everything rn, they won't trade him unless they feel they're getting a really good deal, and Barron is not that

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17 avr. à 20 h 36

#11

Tikiming

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The only Ufa I want is Stamkos
Don’t want another 5,9 guys at 33 years

17 avr. à 21 h 58

#12

Headhack

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Quoting: Tikiming

The only Ufa I want is Stamkos
Don’t want another 5,9 guys at 33 years

Don't want a Conn Smyte winner on your team ? Got it

17 avr. à 22 h 5

#13

Headhack

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Quoting: sharcuda22

There is no, its sarcasm because its value is way off and the main piece coming back is one the sharks already have x100. I also want to clarify that I never said the return for Zett would be a 1++. If he’s plays at the same pace and someone wants to trade for him. That’s a RFA 20 goal scorer x2 making under 2million and team control. He’s also a profile the sharks really really like. that means if he is gonna move it’s gonna be an over pay. You chose to take overpay as meaning 1st++ I didn’t say that headhack

I get it I'm exaggerating of course but even assuming that he's worth a 1st is far fetched but I could see it happening in the future. However this type of player on a contender is a 3rd line winger that's probably in the 30-40 range similar to Duclair who just fetched 2 x 3rd rounders at the TDL.

Duclair similar type of player however not the same contract situation with control, however available on the market just to name him... Hence trading Barron for Zetterlund (25 this summer) value wise isn't far fetched as you're portraying it to be.

17 avr. à 22 h 51

#14

Tikiming

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Quoting: Headhack

Don't want a Conn Smyte winner on your team ? Got it

Quoting: Headhack

Don't want a Conn Smyte winner on your team ? Got it

He is good but A 5,9 player 33 years old guys on a rebuilding small team who’s probably drop 65 pts to 55 to 45 sonner than later is just not a fit.
Don’t want Norris Karlsson too and don’t want Ulmark Vézina.

17 avr. à 23 h 30

#15

Headhack

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Quoting: Tikiming

He is good but A 5,9 player 33 years old guys on a rebuilding small team who’s probably drop 65 pts to 55 to 45 sonner than later is just not a fit.
Don’t want Norris Karlsson too and don’t want Ulmark Vézina.

I get what your saying for size but Stamkos is actually older then Marchessault so no need to bring that as an argument . Stamkos won't get an 100pts season and is likey also to fall off.

Would I prefer a bigger body like Stamkos? Yeah definitely but I'm not willing to spend 8-9.5M for the next 3-5 years

I'm 100 % on board to get bigger, draft Lindstrom and go trade for size for someone like Lawson Crouse or similar build. However we need goal scoring on the wings for Dach and Marchessault for 3 year fits that role

18 avr. à 1 h 42

#16

vols94

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But these are montreal's low picks, Fringe players and cap dumps. All the US team are calling Hughes daily to bid on them

18 avr. à 8 h 2

#17

sharcuda22

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Quoting: Headhack

I get it I'm exaggerating of course but even assuming that he's worth a 1st is far fetched but I could see it happening in the future. However this type of player on a contender is a 3rd line winger that's probably in the 30-40 range similar to Duclair who just fetched 2 x 3rd rounders at the TDL.

Duclair similar type of player however not the same contract situation with control, however available on the market just to name him... Hence trading Barron for Zetterlund (25 this summer) value wise isn't far fetched as you're portraying it to be.

I would disagree quite a bit. Duclair and Zetterlund put up similar points totals but they play very differently. Zett is more in line with typical be big and hit hockey guys. I also never said he was worth a first that was you again. Barron and Zetterlund have quite a gap in value. Zetterlund is already a proven NHLer, and Barron is not demonstrably better than the RD we already have in Ruuta Burroughs Benning Emberson or Thompson. We just dont need a player like him and certainly not as the main piece coming back in a trade for Zetterlund. The value isnt close.

18 avr. à 9 h 4

#18

Tikiming

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Quoting: Headhack

I get what your saying for size but Stamkos is actually older then Marchessault so no need to bring that as an argument . Stamkos won't get an 100pts season and is likey also to fall off.

Would I prefer a bigger body like Stamkos? Yeah definitely but I'm not willing to spend 8-9.5M for the next 3-5 years

I'm 100 % on board to get bigger, draft Lindstrom and go trade for size for someone like Lawson Crouse or similar build. However we need goal scoring on the wings for Dach and Marchessault for 3 year fits that role

Quoting: Headhack

I get what your saying for size but Stamkos is actually older then Marchessault so no need to bring that as an argument . Stamkos won't get an 100pts season and is likey also to fall off.

Would I prefer a bigger body like Stamkos? Yeah definitely but I'm not willing to spend 8-9.5M for the next 3-5 years

I'm 100 % on board to get bigger, draft Lindstrom and go trade for size for someone like Lawson Crouse or similar build. However we need goal scoring on the wings for Dach and Marchessault for 3 year fits that role

You’re right for the age. Stamkos is not going to be better too. Maybe I’m just biaised by the aura of Stamkos in my head he is juste so much ahead of Marchessault.
But honestly the 9-10 millions , I’m for that style of overpay if it’s a huge player that’s gonna help turn the corner. But if he wants more than 2-3 years clearly not.

18 avr. à 10 h 6

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Headhack

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Quoting: Tikiming

You’re right for the age. Stamkos is not going to be better too. Maybe I’m just biaised by the aura of Stamkos in my head he is juste so much ahead of Marchessault.
But honestly the 9-10 millions , I’m for that style of overpay if it’s a huge player that’s gonna help turn the corner. But if he wants more than 2-3 years clearly not.

Yah I just don't want to do like the Penguins and overpay for aura and end up paying Letang till he's 41 7M per year.

Also, I don't see Stamkos wanting to come to MTL but Marchessault probably would. Only time will tell but we definitely need a 2nd line RW, Stamkos C and Dach RW would be nice even if I prefer having Dach at C long term

18 avr. à 10 h 12

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Headhack

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Quoting: sharcuda22

I would disagree quite a bit. Duclair and Zetterlund put up similar points totals but they play very differently. Zett is more in line with typical be big and hit hockey guys. I also never said he was worth a first that was you again. Barron and Zetterlund have quite a gap in value. Zetterlund is already a proven NHLer, and Barron is not demonstrably better than the RD we already have in Ruuta Burroughs Benning Emberson or Thompson. We just dont need a player like him and certainly not as the main piece coming back in a trade for Zetterlund. The value isnt close.

So Zetterlund isn't worth a 1st
Barron value is still a high 2nd

But you're saying the value isn't close ? Maybe you don't personally want Barron and that's fine but you shouldn't be saying the value is off (adding Ylonen also btw that still has some limited value)

What would be a fair ask then ?

18 avr. à 11 h 38

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sharcuda22

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Quoting: Headhack

So Zetterlund isn't worth a 1st
Barron value is still a high 2nd

But you're saying the value isn't close ? Maybe you don't personally want Barron and that's fine but you shouldn't be saying the value is off (adding Ylonen also btw that still has some limited value)

What would be a fair ask then ?

Barron is not worth a second. Who in the league is going to give you a second for Barron when he wont even crack your line up next season?

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