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Créé par: Goose1227
Équipe: 2024-25 Sénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de création initiale: 10 avr. 2024
Publié: 10 avr. 2024
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  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. Marino, John
  3. Nemec, Simon
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
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10 avr. à 23 h 4
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Nemec for Tkachuk is pretty even
Holtz + Marino + lottery 1st + 2nd is a huge overpay for Chychrun
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Quoting: mv21227
Nemec for Tkachuk is pretty even
Holtz + Marino + lottery 1st + 2nd is a huge overpay for Chychrun


Brady isn’t getting traded for Nemec straight up. Nemec + 1st + Holtz. Sens aren’t just giving him away. It’s gonna take teams to offer a **** ton to get him. I have no idea what a good proposal would be, I just threw this together. However, it won’t be a one for one deal, wherever he goes.
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Quoting: Goose1227
Brady isn’t getting traded for Nemec straight up. Nemec + 1st + Holtz. Sens aren’t just giving him away. It’s gonna take teams to offer a **** ton to get him. I have no idea what a good proposal would be, I just threw this together. However, it won’t be a one for one deal, wherever he goes.


Realistically Brady is probably worth Nemec and like a 2nd . Nemec would fill our 1RD for the next 10 years
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10 avr. à 23 h 25
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Realistically Brady is probably worth Nemec and like a 2nd . Nemec would fill our 1RD for the next 10 years


Right, but you and I both know if Staios is trading Brady, it’s for more than that.
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Quoting: Goose1227
Brady isn’t getting traded for Nemec straight up. Nemec + 1st + Holtz. Sens aren’t just giving him away. It’s gonna take teams to offer a **** ton to get him. I have no idea what a good proposal would be, I just threw this together. However, it won’t be a one for one deal, wherever he goes.

Trevor Zegras = Simon Nemec plus the second
Brady Tkachuk >> Trevor Zegras
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Trevor Zegras = Simon Nemec plus the second
Brady Tkachuk >> Trevor Zegras


Bingo
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Brady isn’t getting traded for Nemec straight up. Nemec + 1st + Holtz. Sens aren’t just giving him away. It’s gonna take teams to offer a **** ton to get him. I have no idea what a good proposal would be, I just threw this together. However, it won’t be a one for one deal, wherever he goes.


Nemec + Holtz + what’s currently the 10th pick is an absurd price for a player who’s not a superstar
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10 avr. à 23 h 47
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Quoting: mv21227
Nemec + Holtz + what’s currently the 10th pick is an absurd price for a player who’s not a superstar


We’re all allowed to have opinions. I respect yours. No argument from me.
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11 avr. à 7 h 23
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I personally wouldn't be interested in Chychrun I'd do Holtz Marino 10th overall and the 2nd for Brady though
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Trevor Zegras = Simon Nemec plus the second
Brady Tkachuk >> Trevor Zegras


I personally wouldn't trade Nemec for Zegras straight up. I'll take a guy on a path to be our #1 RHD than to get a guy that is more flash than result where it's not even like Zegras is a point per game solid center four years in. I get her was hurt. This is also adding to the fact the Devils already have Hischier and Hughes at 1-2C. I wouldn't pay for Zegras to be the LW as he doesn't bring anything close to what Brady could at LW bringing grit to Jack's left side.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Trevor Zegras = Simon Nemec plus the second
Brady Tkachuk >> Trevor Zegras


The only asset Simon Nemec has ever been on the table for is Matthew Tkachuk. 1 for 1
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
I personally wouldn't trade Nemec for Zegras straight up. I'll take a guy on a path to be our #1 RHD than to get a guy that is more flash than result where it's not even like Zegras is a point per game solid center four years in. I get her was hurt. This is also adding to the fact the Devils already have Hischier and Hughes at 1-2C. I wouldn't pay for Zegras to be the LW as he doesn't bring anything close to what Brady could at LW bringing grit to Jack's left side.


Nemec was ONLY offered for 8 years of Matthew Tkachuk 1 for 1
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Quoting: mv21227
Nemec + Holtz + what’s currently the 10th pick is an absurd price for a player who’s not a superstar


Also the only piece Nemec has been on the table for was 8 years Matthew Tkachuk. 1 for 1
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Quoting: dgibb10
Nemec was ONLY offered for 8 years of Matthew Tkachuk 1 for 1


Not doubting that, just see what I am commenting on about the idea Zegras is worth Nemec+
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Quoting: Schuyler
I personally wouldn't be interested in Chychrun I'd do Holtz Marino 10th overall and the 2nd for Brady though


Of course you’d do that but ottawa wouldn’t .

If it’s that easy for devils fans to say yes then it’s just not enough quality
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Quoting: csick
Of course you’d do that but ottawa wouldn’t .

If it’s that easy for devils fans to say yes then it’s just not enough quality


I would not offer that for Tkachuk. Large overpay
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Quoting: mv21227
Nemec + Holtz + what’s currently the 10th pick is an absurd price for a player who’s not a superstar


List of players I’d offer Nemec+top 10 pick+Holtz for

Connor Bedard
Cale Makar
Jack Hughes
Connor McDavid
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Quoting: dgibb10
List of players I’d offer Nemec+top 10 pick+Holtz for

Connor Bedard
Cale Makar
Jack Hughes
Connor McDavid


List of teams that would accept that offer are 0.

There’s 0 shot you ever get any of those players without Hischier or Hughes in the deal
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Quoting: csick
List of teams that would accept that offer are 0.

There’s 0 shot you ever get any of those players without Hischier or Hughes in the deal


Jack Hughes I would offer only 1 for 1 for any of those players.

Nico Hischier would replace Nemec in any of those proposals if they want him instead.
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Quoting: csick
Of course you’d do that but ottawa wouldn’t .

If it’s that easy for devils fans to say yes then it’s just not enough quality


I wouldn't say its an easy yes Marino is a top 4 27YO RHD who is on a good contract plus Holtz who is worth at least a 1st plus the picks. I'd say that's at least 4 first round picks worth of value. You can ask for Nemec all you want but really prospects like him don't move unless its for a mega star
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I wouldn't say its an easy yes Marino is a top 4 27YO RHD who is on a good contract plus Holtz who is worth at least a 1st plus the picks. I'd say that's at least 4 first round picks worth of value. You can ask for Nemec all you want but really prospects like him don't move unless its for a mega star


Marino’s analytics haven’t been good and don’t show he’s a 2nd pair Dman.

Holtz hasn’t showed he’s a 1st liner

The 1st is okay , I like that piece potentially
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Marino’s analytics haven’t been good and don’t show he’s a 2nd pair Dman.

Holtz hasn’t showed he’s a 1st liner

The 1st is okay , I like that piece potentially


Marino has had very analytics prior to this year also doesn't brady have horrible analytics at least he did his first few years

Holtz is in his first year if he was a 1st liner already he wouldn't be in this package
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Quoting: Schuyler
Marino has had very analytics prior to this year also doesn't brady have horrible analytics at least he did his first few years

Holtz is in his first year if he was a 1st liner already he wouldn't be in this package


You're paying more than the eichel deal

Marino=Tuch
Holtz=Krebs
NJD top 10 pick >VGK 1st

Simple as that.
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Quoting: dgibb10
You're paying more than the eichel deal

Marino=Tuch
Holtz=Krebs
NJD top 10 pick >VGK 1st

Simple as that.


I think Brady would be worth more to GMs for 2 reasons one because he was injured and the surgery controversy and two BIG&MEAN you know NHL GMs love that
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Quoting: Schuyler
I think Brady would be worth more to GMs for 2 reasons one because he was injured and the surgery controversy and two BIG&MEAN you know NHL GMs love that


I'd much rather have Eichel.

the Center aspect means more than #hits imo.

But if you want to go to a guy who had identical production as a power forward, look no further than the Timo Meier trade we already made.

Tkachuk is younger, more hits, more certainty with contract, more goon.

Meier was better defensively, cheaper 1 year, more term available, more scoring. (overall Meier will make 8.15 mill a year in NJD for 9 years)

I'd go from that proposal:

1st+Casey/Holtz/Marino (they can choose)+2nd that can become a 1st.

our 2024 pick being SIGNIFICANTLY higher than the pick we gave SJS bridges the gap in age.
 
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