Buch to Columbus

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Créé par: BluesReport18

Équipe: 2024-25 Blues de St-Louis

Date de création initiale: 7 avr. 2024

Publié: 7 avr. 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Building off what @DopeGM said in https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/5034501, Columbus needs more specific role players and high end ones at that. Adding, and extending, buch would be huge for them. They have the depth pieces to trade for him too. A main problem with Columbus is that they have almost too many prospects (same thing goes for a team like Buffalo) and not every prospect can make it. They also need more role players as you can't be playing guys like Chinakhov or Sillinger, who are top 6 talents, in the bottom 6.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Abramov, Mikhail	2	800 000 $
Alexandrov, Nikita	2	800 000 $
Bitten, Will	2	800 000 $
Ellis, Colten	2	800 000 $
McGing, Hugh	2	800 000 $
Skinner, Hunter	2	800 000 $
Perunovich, Scott	2	925 000 $
Chinakhov, Yegor	6	4 500 000 $

UFA		ANS	CAP HIT
Peca, Matthew		2	850 000 $
Gaudette, Adam		2	850 000 $

Transactions

STL

Ceulemans, Corson
Chinakhov, Yegor [Droits de RFA]
Voronkov, Dmitri
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (CBJ)

Détails additionnels:

This is an interesting trade value wise. The Blues would be betting a lot on the upside of these players and the trade might not work out well if either Chinakhov or Voronkov don't work out. For Columbus, Buch signs around an 8x8 extension.

For Columbus, losing Voronkov would be the big blow but you're getting legit first line, all situations, PPG winger. Voronkov is likely going to be a very solid middle 6 power forward throughout his career but not a first line guy. The emergence of Nylander makes Chinakhov expendable as they play similar roles. Hayes adds more veteran leadership to a young team and it helps that he's great friends with Gaudreau.

Lastly, Ceuleman is in the same situation as a lot of Columbus players and just doesn't have a spot open for him for a LONG time.

CBJ

Buchnevich, Pavel
Hayes, Kevin (1 571 429 $ retained)

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Kevin Hayes: 1 571 429 $ (44%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
21	87 700 000 $	73 923 095 $	0 $	412 500 $	13 776 905 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Chinakhov, Yegor 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AD, AG RFA	Thomas, Robert 8 125 000 $8 125 000 $ C, AD UFA - 7	Neighbours, Jake 835 833 $835 833 $ AG, AD RFA - 1
Bolduc, Zachary 863 333 $863 333 $ (412 500 $$412K) AG RFA - 2	Voronkov, Dmitri 925 000 $925 000 $ AG, C, AD RFA - 1	Kyrou, Jordan 8 125 000 $8 125 000 $ AD UFA - 7
Saad, Brandon 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD NTC UFA - 2	Schenn, Brayden 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ C, AG NTC UFA - 4	Toropchenko, Alexey 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1
Walker, Nathan 775 000 $775 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Dean, Zach 852 500 $852 500 $ C RFA - 2	Alexandrov, Nikita 800 000 $800 000 $ C RFA

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Tucker, Tyler 800 000 $800 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 1	Parayko, Colton 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 6	Binnington, Jordan 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ G M-NTC UFA - 3
Leddy, Nick 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 2	Kessel, Matthew 800 000 $800 000 $ DD RFA - 2	Hofer, Joel 775 000 $775 000 $ G RFA - 1
Perunovich, Scott 925 000 $925 000 $ DG RFA	Faulk, Justin 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 3
Krug, Torey 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 3

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Sundqvist, Oskar 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ AD, C UFA - 2

7 avr. à 13 h 52

dk325

Dolzhenkov Is Coming

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I have no faith that a 60-70 point player elsewhere isn't just a 30-50 point player in Columbus. There's something about the playstyle they want to pursue that has been absolutely destructive to offensive production. With that in mind, the value here is horrible for Columbus as they're potentially giving up two guys who can score at the same rate as Buchnevich would in Columbus.

squashmaple et Viqsi a aimé ceci.

7 avr. à 14 h 12

BluesReport18

Démarrer sujet

Rejoint: févr. 2023

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Quoting: dk325

The key though is the two guys could "potentially" score at the same rate as Buch. The odds that both of those 2 ever do that in Columbus is pretty rare. At some point Columbus has to change up the culture and play style. That likely starts with a new coach this offseason who will hopefully help. Either way it will be fascinating to see how they perform next year.

What are your thoughts on the Jiricek situation? Hopefully he gets a full time top 4 role next year but Columbus has a lot of dmen he has to pass and they've seemed reluctant in letting him pass those players even though he is more skilled.

7 avr. à 14 h 26

dk325

Dolzhenkov Is Coming

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Quoting: BluesReport18

If we talk about scoring rates, they're both already scoring at higher /60 rates at 5v5 than Buchnevich. It's pretty reasonable to expect that they'll both be able to reach the same range of production, if not higher, with more experience and a competent PP system. Chinakhov is actually one of the more productive 5v5 scorers in the league when measuring p/60.

I haven't put a whole lot of thought into the Jackets future since Jarmo was fired. It seems like a pointless exercise until we know who the replacement is and what direction they want to take the team in.

Viqsi a aimé ceci.

7 avr. à 14 h 36

mokumboi

Rejoint: avr. 2019

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Not gonna lie, man. I do not care for the construction of this offer. If a maybe solid middle 6 C (which is certainly not a primary need) is the centerpiece of a deal to give up Buch and Hayes half-retained, something is wrong. Especially coming from a team with excellent prospects in our areas of dire need falling out of their ears.

Quoting: dk325

If we talk about scoring rates, they're both already scoring at higher /60 rates at 5v5 than Buchnevich.

Heh. Against top line competition? And maybe use more than one season for Buch to compare, for the sake of including consistency.

7 avr. à 19 h 24

Viqsi

mostly harmless

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As much as I would dearly love to see Buchnevich in union blue, that price is way too damn high. Giving up Chinakhov is suboptimal. Giving up Voronkov is very bad for us. Having to take back Hayes is abysmally bad. All three at once? I love Buch but not quite that much.

7 avr. à 21 h 49

BluesReport18

Démarrer sujet

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Quoting: Viqsi

What offer would you make for Buch? I think the fit to Columbus is a good one and they would have a lot that the Blues would be interested in.

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