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Starting the rebuild accidentally

Créé par: Shaun80
Équipe: 2024-25 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 27 mars 2024
Publié: 27 mars 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Conroy trades a disgruntled Markstrom at the draft. No free agents that are an upgrade on our current players want to sign with the Flames, so he overpays Dillon to hopefully solidify our top 4 (it doesn’t work). Conroy still thinks this team can compete but the Vladar/Wolf tandem doesn't work out and Calgary doesn't have the offense to make up for it causing them to plummit in the standings, landing a top 5 pick in 2025.

Conroy drafts for team needs at the 2024 draft and continues his trend of acquiring bigger players. (Draft positions are based on Doms model at the Athletic)

8th Berkly Catton (Sorry everyone who wants Tij, can't pass him up)
22nd Beckett Sennecke
27th Maxim Masse
Two big right wingers to balance out the depth chart.
40th Dominik Badinka (I just think his name is fun to say)
63rd Harrison Brunicke
Same as above, two big RD, helps balances out the depth in the minors.

At the 2025 draft Calgary finally gets the potential #1C they haven't had since Joe Nieuwendyk.
4th Michael Misa
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 250 000 $
11 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
13 000 000 $
24 500 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Catton, Berkly
3900 000 $
Sennecke, Beckett
3900 000 $
Masse, Maxim
3900 000 $
Badinika, Dominik
3900 000 $
Brunicke, Harrison
3900 000 $
Misa, Michael
3900 000 $
Transactions
CGY
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (LAK)
Détails additionnels:
22nd overall
LAK
  1. Markström, Jacob (3 000 000 $ retained)
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2987 700 000 $80 950 833 $0 $1 062 500 $6 749 167 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 7
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7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 5
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
RFA - 1
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5 800 000 $5 800 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AD
RFA - 2
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG, C
RFA - 1
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3 100 000 $3 100 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
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UFA - 3
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Misa, Michael
900 000 $900 000 $
Logo de Flames de Calgary
825 000 $825 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Catton, Berkly
900 000 $900 000 $
Sennecke, Beckett
900 000 $900 000 $
Masse, Maxim
900 000 $900 000 $
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
DG/DD
NTC
UFA - 7
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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2 200 000 $2 200 000 $
G
UFA - 1
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DG
UFA
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4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
G
RFA
Logo de Flames de Calgary
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA
Logo de Flames de Calgary
775 000 $775 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
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787 500 $787 500 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Badinika, Dominik
900 000 $900 000 $
Brunicke, Harrison
900 000 $900 000 $

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27 mars à 14 h 54
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Kings pass. Can probably resign Talbot and Rittich for about 3m maybe slightly more and keep our 1st.
27 mars à 14 h 55
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Markstrom blocked a trade to LAK
27 mars à 14 h 57
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
Markstrom blocked a trade to LAK


Kadri blocked a trade to the flames. He could change his mind.
27 mars à 15 h 14
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I think a lot of fans will think this isn't fair, but I actually like it.

Kings get a proven 1A who will be solid for 2 years (while Kopitar is still here) at a cap friendly rate.

Flames get to finally give Wolf a shot at taking the starter role and more importantly assets to continue stocking the cupboards. The 50% retained might sting, but I see the value from both ends here.
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27 mars à 15 h 17
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I think a lot of fans will think this isn't fair, but I actually like it.

Kings get a proven 1A who will be solid for 2 years (while Kopitar is still here) at a cap friendly rate.

Flames get to finally give Wolf a shot at taking the starter role and more importantly assets to continue stocking the cupboards. The 50% retained might sting, but I see the value from both ends here.


I don't think the Flames will be a cap team in the forseeable future so the retention shouldn't hurt.
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27 mars à 15 h 22
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I don't think the Flames will be a cap team in the forseeable future so the retention shouldn't hurt.


The Flames feel like where the Sharks were a bit ago, it's not super clear that they are tanking or rebuilding, if they still want to attempt the playoffs next season then I understand why they want to wait on burning it down just yet.
27 mars à 15 h 34
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Quoting: tryger
The Flames feel like where the Sharks were a bit ago, it's not super clear that they are tanking or rebuilding, if they still want to attempt the playoffs next season then I understand why they want to wait on burning it down just yet.


If Markstrom wants out, and I think he does, then the decision to rebuild is made for them. I'd say he's won them at least 5 games this season and I know that doesn't sound like a lot, but 10 less points in the standings and we're drafting 5th overall.
27 mars à 15 h 38
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Quoting: Shaun80
If Markstrom wants out, and I think he does, then the decision to rebuild is made for them. I'd say he's won them at least 5 games this season and I know that doesn't sound like a lot, but 10 less points in the standings and we're drafting 5th overall.


That is plenty, my issue is more does Markstrom have that in the tank for the next two seasons, can he be healthy and consistent (at around this age digression happens) but at $3M there is not many options to get that level of goaltender on that contract. I think it's a fair deal, and I could genuinely see Blake making that trade.
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27 mars à 15 h 45
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Quoting: tryger
That is plenty, my issue is more does Markstrom have that in the tank for the next two seasons, can he be healthy and consistent (at around this age digression happens) but at $3M there is not many options to get that level of goaltender on that contract. I think it's a fair deal, and I could genuinely see Blake making that trade.


Yeah that's always the big question mark around older players, but LAs goaltending would actual get younger with Markstrom.
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27 mars à 15 h 50
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Markstrom has been good, all things considered

At $6mil, i can’t see anyone wanting him though
But if u guys are holding half….
that’s a different story- someone will bite
Maybe Jersey if LA isn’t interested??
Maybe the Leafs even?

There’s sure to be interest in Markstrom at $3mil imo

Heck, possibly even my Sabres
Not for our 1st though. Maybe for a lesser pick(s) &/or a prospect(s)
But the price would have to work for both sides,
bc we could always go the UFA route (which is likely imo, since we really need a backup for UPL more than we need a starter)
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
Markstrom has been good, all things considered

At $6mil, i can’t see anyone wanting him though
But if u guys are holding half….
that’s a different story- someone will bite
Maybe Jersey if LA isn’t interested??
Maybe the Leafs even?

There’s sure to be interest in Markstrom at $3mil imo

Heck, possibly even my Sabres
Not for our 1st though. Maybe for a lesser pick(s) &/or a prospect(s)
But the price would have to work for both sides,
bc we could always go the UFA route (which is likely imo, since we really need a backup for UPL more than we need a starter)


I think there will be a bunch of teams looking for goaltending this off season. Biggest hurdle is where is he willing to go. If it is a team like Jersey or Buffalo, maybe next years top ten protected 1st, or this years and we give you Vancouvers pick, something like that.
27 mars à 16 h 15
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Quoting: Shaun80
I think there will be a bunch of teams looking for goaltending this off season. Biggest hurdle is where is he willing to go. If it is a team like Jersey or Buffalo, maybe next years 1st, or this years and we give you Vancouvers pick, something like that.


I don’t think anyone is giving you a pick in the top half of the 1st
He’s still a 34year old goalie
It’s hard to imagine a team giving up great value knowing it’s a short term player
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27 mars à 16 h 38
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Well, since those are the two guys I have my eye on for Los Angeles and Anaheim (with the Edmonton pick) at the back end of the first round, I commend you on your brilliance.

I would accept the Markstrom offer if made (which assumes that he waives his NMC). That's because I think it will cost closer to $4 million than $3 million to get both Talbot and Rittich, so Markstrom and Rittich isn't that much of a higher cost and probably works out better for the additional year.
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27 mars à 16 h 45
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Well, since those are the two guys I have my eye on for Los Angeles and Anaheim (with the Edmonton pick) at the back end of the first round, I commend you on your brilliance.

I would accept the Markstrom offer if made (which assumes that he waives his NMC). That's because I think it will cost closer to $4 million than $3 million to get both Talbot and Rittich, so Markstrom and Rittich isn't that much of a higher cost and probably works out better for the additional year.


Was going to go with Michael Hage with LAs pick, but I think he'll be gone.
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27 mars à 17 h 40
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Return seems light for 50%. I would probably want Turcotte included
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27 mars à 20 h 45
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Return seems light for 50%. I would probably want Turcotte included


Turcotte and a late 1st would still be light especially with retention.
27 mars à 21 h 3
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Turcotte and a late 1st would still be light especially with retention.


Maybe, I like Turcotte and his 2-way game
 
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