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No it's not, that's just made up nonsense from TO media


Woll's had 3 of his last 8 starts with a sub .900 save percentage...

Sammy's also on a 5 game win streak with 9 of his last 11 with a .900 save percentage or higher
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Modifié 9 avr. à 13 h 21
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Letting in bad goals isn't great at giving us a chance to win. Woll should be the starter


No No No just No

Woll in 3 of his last 4 starts has allowed a goal on the first shot of the game

He's 2-3 with a 3.03GAA and a 0.891SV in his last 5 games

Sammy is 4-1 with a 2.66GAA and a 0.916SV in his last 5 games

Woll should be no where near the starting Job for game 1. He is lost and shaky rn

Best chance to win = Sammy as he's on a heater and has been sharp

Its not TOR media its not anything Woll's just not been good while Sammy has. Woll's hopefully got a bright future but he is not it
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Woll's had 3 of his last 8 starts with a sub .900 save percentage...

Sammy's also on a 5 game win streak with 9 of his last 11 with a .900 save percentage or higher


Woll was hung out to dry and has been the only reason why the Leafs had a chance in any of those games. SV% is misleading when the team gives up grade a chance after grade a chance.
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No No No just No

Woll in 3 of his last 4 starts has allowed a goal on the first shot of the game

He's 2-3 with a 3.03GAA and a 0.891SV in his last 5 games

Sammy is 4-1 with a 2.66GAA and a 0.916SV in his last 5 games

Woll should be no where near the starting Job for game 1. He is lost and shaky rn

Best chance to win = Sammy as he's on a heater and has been sharp

Its not TOR media its not anything Woll's just not been good while Sammy has. Woll's hopefully got a bright future but he is not it


The king of using small sample sizes to make your opinion seem correct. Sammy has had the same issues his whole career. Crazy athletic and great sometimes. But he always lets in bad goals from time to time and can see his confidence completely disappear. It's funny how his last 5 games mean everything he's done before, including being so bad, no one wanted him for free this season, is no longer considered but Woll's last 5 games means he's not worth starting ever.

Tonight the Leafs play the 2nd of a back to back vs a fresh team that is desperate to still make the playoffs. If TO does what they do best and just flub the game, you'll blame Woll if he allows 5 while being completely hung out to dry. But when Sammy plays a team like Montreal, he's a god.
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Woll was hung out to dry and has been the only reason why the Leafs had a chance in any of those games. SV% is misleading when the team gives up grade a chance after grade a chance.


Fair, but Sammy's making those saves, ride the goalie on a heater
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Modifié 9 avr. à 14 h 28
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The king of using small sample sizes to make your opinion seem correct. Sammy has had the same issues his whole career. Crazy athletic and great sometimes. But he always lets in bad goals from time to time and can see his confidence completely disappear. It's funny how his last 5 games mean everything he's done before, including being so bad, no one wanted him for free this season, is no longer considered but Woll's last 5 games means he's not worth starting ever.

Tonight the Leafs play the 2nd of a back to back vs a fresh team that is desperate to still make the playoffs. If TO does what they do best and just flub the game, you'll blame Woll if he allows 5 while being completely hung out to dry. But when Sammy plays a team like Montreal, he's a god.


Lets go last 20 games then if we need better

Samsonov 16-3-1 record with a 2.63gaa and a save percentage of .910 in 20 games

Woll 9-9-1 record with a 3.13gaa and a save percentage of .899 SV in 20 games (hurt in OTT which is why its 19)

So from the record and numbers whose better Sammy lul

Woll's not been good as of late and especially his recent starts have highlighted that he had his moments but he's lost the net to Sammy whose earned it. Woll's hopefully got a bright future but he's not it rn.

Sammy has been good and has made the saves needed to help the team win. He's athletic so what thats his playstyle and it helped them beat TBL last year. The team has more confidence in him and plays better around him he's on a heater

He's the guy


And if Woll allows the first shot of the game to go in its gonna become a troublesome pattern as it will be 4 of 5 games he's done that. Cant always blame the team in front for the goalies flubs and allowed beachballs to pass him. Who cares if its a b2b nothing's stopping him from making a save
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Fair, but Sammy's making those saves, ride the goalie on a heater


He's also getting 4-5 goals for a game. Woll isn't
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Modifié 9 avr. à 16 h 5
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He's also getting 4-5 goals for a game. Woll isn't


Thats not really a good excuse especially come playoffs

Last 5 starts for Woll

TOR has scored 17 goals allowed 15 goals (3 of 4 games Woll has allowed first shot for opponent to go in)

Woll in 2 of the last 5 got goal support of 5 goals or more


Meanwhile Sammy

TOR has scored 22 goals allowed 11 goals (1 shutout)

Sammy in 2 of 5 games got goal support of 5 goals or more


Both are getting goal support


In total difference is 5 goals yet big difference in save percentage and goals allowed where Sammy has had the advantage.


Sammy's the game 1 starter, Woll at this point should not even be in the conversation of who starts game 1 anymore he's lost that stance with multiple poor starts. Can make ABC excuse but he's allowed to make saves to

Keefe starts Woll then its the biggest flub in NHL history next to Everson's decision to put Fleury in over Gustavsson game 2. Again hopefully Woll figures it out next season and has a solid future but rn he aint it
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Imagine Pitt dont make the playoffs u just have to frame this
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Quoting: aadoyle
Thats not really a good excuse especially come playoffs

Last 5 starts for Woll

TOR has scored 17 goals allowed 15 goals (3 of 4 games Woll has allowed first shot for opponent to go in)

Woll in 2 of the last 5 got goal support of 5 goals or more


Meanwhile Sammy

TOR has scored 22 goals allowed 11 goals (1 shutout)

Sammy in 2 of 5 games got goal support of 5 goals or more


Both are getting goal support


In total difference is 5 goals yet big difference in save percentage and goals allowed where Sammy has had the advantage.


Sammy's the game 1 starter end of story. Keefe starts Woll then its the biggest flub in NHL history next to Everson's decision to put Fleury in over Gustavsson game 2. Again hopefully Woll figures it out next season and has a solid future but rn he aint it


Quoting: aadoyle
Thats not really a good excuse especially come playoffs

Last 5 starts for Woll

TOR has scored 17 goals allowed 15 goals (3 of 4 games Woll has allowed first shot for opponent to go in)

Woll in 2 of the last 5 got goal support of 5 goals or more


Meanwhile Sammy

TOR has scored 22 goals allowed 11 goals (1 shutout)

Sammy in 2 of 5 games got goal support of 5 goals or more


Both are getting goal support


In total difference is 5 goals yet big difference in save percentage and goals allowed where Sammy has had the advantage.


Sammy's the game 1 starter, Woll at this point should not even be in the conversation of who starts game 1 anymore he's lost that stance with multiple poor starts. Can make ABC excuse but he's allowed to make saves to

Keefe starts Woll then its the biggest flub in NHL history next to Everson's decision to put Fleury in over Gustavsson game 2. Again hopefully Woll figures it out next season and has a solid future but rn he aint it


Quoting: aadoyle
Thats not really a good excuse especially come playoffs

Last 5 starts for Woll

TOR has scored 17 goals allowed 15 goals (3 of 4 games Woll has allowed first shot for opponent to go in)

Woll in 2 of the last 5 got goal support of 5 goals or more


Meanwhile Sammy

TOR has scored 22 goals allowed 11 goals (1 shutout)

Sammy in 2 of 5 games got goal support of 5 goals or more


Both are getting goal support


In total difference is 5 goals yet big difference in save percentage and goals allowed where Sammy has had the advantage.


Sammy's the game 1 starter, Woll at this point should not even be in the conversation of who starts game 1 anymore he's lost that stance with multiple poor starts. Can make ABC excuse but he's allowed to make saves to

Keefe starts Woll then its the biggest flub in NHL history next to Everson's decision to put Fleury in over Gustavsson game 2. Again hopefully Woll figures it out next season and has a solid future but rn he aint it


Woll is better than
Quoting: aadoyle
Thats not really a good excuse especially come playoffs

Last 5 starts for Woll

TOR has scored 17 goals allowed 15 goals (3 of 4 games Woll has allowed first shot for opponent to go in)

Woll in 2 of the last 5 got goal support of 5 goals or more


Meanwhile Sammy

TOR has scored 22 goals allowed 11 goals (1 shutout)

Sammy in 2 of 5 games got goal support of 5 goals or more


Both are getting goal support


In total difference is 5 goals yet big difference in save percentage and goals allowed where Sammy has had the advantage.


Sammy's the game 1 starter, Woll at this point should not even be in the conversation of who starts game 1 anymore he's lost that stance with multiple poor starts. Can make ABC excuse but he's allowed to make saves to

Keefe starts Woll then its the biggest flub in NHL history next to Everson's decision to put Fleury in over Gustavsson game 2. Again hopefully Woll figures it out next season and has a solid future but rn he aint it


Will is better than Samsonov. Sammy is a time bomb, he's going to implode. Always has always will
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Woll is better than

Will is better than Samsonov. Sammy is a time bomb, he's going to implode. Always has always will


Woll's not better than Sammy rn sorry. If he was he would not be pushed out for game 1 starter but his recent games have not given coaching staff, team, nor the fans confidence in him. He's been to shaky and rn is not the time for that

Woll's hopefully got a bright future but rn he aint it. We can use the excuses A-Z but allowing the first shot in 3 of your last 4 starts is a momentum killer and we dont want that in a series vs. BOS or FLA

Sammy also really aint a time bomb and if he was already went off at the start of the year and has rebounded nicely into the guy we knew and loved last year. Winning us games, making good saves, and keeping things stable

And its thanks to that he's nominated for the Masterton Trophy which is well deserved. He outdueled Vasi to win the Leafs a series something Campbell and Anderson could not and if all goes well will do it again but this time against Swayman or Bobrosky
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https://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/1777806150693433679?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Would have kept Dewar in and rested someone else

He's been so good for our PK to where its been 22/23
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Woll's not better than Sammy rn sorry. If he was he would not be pushed out for game 1 starter but his recent games have not given coaching staff, team, nor the fans confidence in him. He's been to shaky and rn is not the time for that

Woll's hopefully got a bright future but rn he aint it. We can use the excuses A-Z but allowing the first shot in 3 of your last 4 starts is a momentum killer and we dont want that in a series vs. BOS or FLA

Sammy also really aint a time bomb and if he was already went off at the start of the year and has rebounded nicely into the guy we knew and loved last year. Winning us games, making good saves, and keeping things stable

And its thanks to that he's nominated for the Masterton Trophy which is well deserved. He outdueled Vasi to win the Leafs a series something Campbell and Anderson could not and if all goes well will do it again but this time against Swayman or Bobrosky


Sammy is on his upswing and it won't last and when it turns it will be terrible.
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Woll's not better than Sammy rn sorry. If he was he would not be pushed out for game 1 starter but his recent games have not given coaching staff, team, nor the fans confidence in him. He's been to shaky and rn is not the time for that

Woll's hopefully got a bright future but rn he aint it. We can use the excuses A-Z but allowing the first shot in 3 of your last 4 starts is a momentum killer and we dont want that in a series vs. BOS or FLA

Sammy also really aint a time bomb and if he was already went off at the start of the year and has rebounded nicely into the guy we knew and loved last year. Winning us games, making good saves, and keeping things stable

And its thanks to that he's nominated for the Masterton Trophy which is well deserved. He outdueled Vasi to win the Leafs a series something Campbell and Anderson could not and if all goes well will do it again but this time against Swayman or Bobrosky


Also Woll has a better save percentage on the season despite his play recently. And it's not close. So who is Sammy? What he's doing now? Or the guy that's barely an NHL player. Or when will he once again be barely an NHL player
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Robertson first game back and scores

Next year when Bertuzzi walks he's gonna look nice next to Matthews and Domi
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Modifié 9 avr. à 19 h 30
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Also Woll has a better save percentage on the season despite his play recently. And it's not close. So who is Sammy? What he's doing now? Or the guy that's barely an NHL player. Or when will he once again be barely an NHL player


That really dont mean much considering how bad Sammy was to start. Its a big hole to climb out from but if he keeps up these strong performances he will be over 0.900. As if both continue on their current trends its not great look for Woll.

Again if we look at the last 20 games Sammy's been the better goalie. Wolls been shaky and for playoffs being less than 2 weeks away not who we need in net rn.

And thats a silly question as we know what he has been since being called back up

An NHL starting goalie and has not looked back.

The real question is who is Woll

The answer = guy with a bright future hopefully but rn is not it. Should not be game 1 starter vs. FLA or BOS
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Robertson first game back and scores

Next year when Bertuzzi walks he's gonna look nice next to Matthews and Domi


You must know that Marner will be back with Matthews very soon.
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That really dont mean much considering how bad Sammy was to start. Its a big hole to climb out from but if he keeps up these strong performances he will be over 0.900

As to who Sammy is game 1 starter thats who


That is entirely the point. Woll is never bad. Even when he's "struggling". He's looking good tonight. Always under control and in position. Florida in the first round is going to be low scoring games and Sammy will let in some stinkers and when TO loses 2-1 with Sammy letting in a bad one. You and Keefe will both say the wrong things and Sammy will be given another game where he'll collapse
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Modifié 9 avr. à 19 h 39
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That is entirely the point. Woll is never bad. Even when he's "struggling". He's looking good tonight. Always under control and in position. Florida in the first round is going to be low scoring games and Sammy will let in some stinkers and when TO loses 2-1 with Sammy letting in a bad one. You and Keefe will both say the wrong things and Sammy will be given another game where he'll collapse


I mean you cant say that lul

All goalies can be bad for stretches even Woll

He's not been good recently and thats bad.


The NJ game for instance he was bad. He allowed the first shot in and couldnt stop a beachball and NJ had an XGA of 1.85 for the majority of that game.


Your basically wanting Sammy to lose us a series or game rather than route for him to win us a series or heck get us to a cup. Oh hes gonna let in a stinker oh hes gonna blow up and cost us rather than root for him lul. He's already done the impossible once and made one of the biggest turnarounds in the NHL

Not a good look for yah
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That really dont mean much considering how bad Sammy was to start. Its a big hole to climb out from but if he keeps up these strong performances he will be over 0.900. As if both continue on their current trends its not great look for Woll.

Again if we look at the last 20 games Sammy's been the better goalie. Wolls been shaky and for playoffs being less than 2 weeks away not who we need in net rn.

And thats a silly question as we know what he has been since being called back up

An NHL starting goalie and has not looked back.

The real question is who is Woll

The answer = guy with a bright future hopefully but rn is not it. Should not be game 1 starter vs. FLA or BOS


Woll's fault eh? Definitely his fault not McCabe or Benoit
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Modifié 9 avr. à 19 h 43
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Woll's fault eh? Definitely his fault not McCabe or Benoit


They be a factor but it wasnt that crazy of a play that he couldnt make a save on.

No need to bite that hard as man Hischer baited him

https://twitter.com/TicTacTOmar/status/1777842756011913288

Both need to be better
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Bertuzzi should be on PP1 over JT

When he was put on it Leafs Powerplay ran at 50%
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Nice secondary assist from Marner...
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Miscommunication on PK but also another not great goal let in by Woll

Just not good all around
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Other than the penalty that lead to NJ taking the lead Knies really been having a good game
 
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