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Edvinsson-Karlsson

Créé par: SweetRevenge19
Équipe: 2024-25 Red Wings de Detroit
Date de création initiale: 23 mars 2024
Publié: 23 mars 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
35 750 000 $
34 250 000 $
31 250 000 $
3925 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
25 000 000 $
37 500 000 $
11 125 000 $
11 500 000 $
Transactions
1.
PIT
  1. Berggren, Jonatan [Droits de RFA]
  2. Chiarot, Ben
  3. Holl, Justin
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (DET)
2.
DET
  1. Gibson, John (1 400 000 $ retained)
ANA
  1. Husso, Ville
  2. Niederbach, Theodor [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (DET)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2025 (BOS)
3.
DET
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (NSH)
CHI
  1. Smith, Reilly
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
4.
DET
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2025 (SJS)
SJS
  1. Fabbri, Robby
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (NSH)
Rachats de contrats
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2387 700 000 $87 629 306 $0 $1 850 000 $70 694 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
AG, C
UFA
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8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 7
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4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AD, AG
RFA
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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5 100 000 $5 100 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD
UFA
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3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 4
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5 625 000 $5 625 000 $
C, AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
C
RFA
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878 333 $878 333 $
AG, C
RFA - 1
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918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance1 000 000 $$1M)
C
RFA - 2
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905 833 $905 833 $
AG
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DD
RFA
Logo de Ducks d'Anaheim
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Penguins de Pittsburgh
10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 3
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Red Wings de Detroit
2 343 750 $2 343 750 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA
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925 000 $925 000 $
DG
RFA
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900 000 $900 000 $
G
UFA - 1

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23 mars à 23 h 28
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Dumping Husso AND paying for retention costs way more than that.
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23 mars à 23 h 34
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I think remove Holl and Smith from that and it would be good.
23 mars à 23 h 37
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Pittsburgh doesn't do that, Detroit doesn't either. That contract would hinder signing our RFA's which you greatly underpaid.
Anaheim doesn't do that I would expect.
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23 mars à 23 h 40
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
Dumping Husso AND paying for retention costs way more than that.

I didn’t want any retention but needed to the way this roster is built. I don’t think Husso is a pure dump as he’s shown to be quality outside of this years groin injury. The idea was getting draft picks and cap flexibility with dece fill in starter replacement for Ducks. But I think you’re right, probably a bit light on return, what would you add?
24 mars à 0 h 13
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Quoting: Lancebmx
Pittsburgh doesn't do that, Detroit doesn't either. That contract would hinder signing our RFA's which you greatly underpaid.
Anaheim doesn't do that I would expect.

Pittsburgh sheds a ton of salary to retool with and gets back nearly what they gave up in the trade, why wouldn’t they do it? I think Karlsson would be a great fit on the wings as good pairing with Edvinsson and mentor as well, while an upgrade over Ghost on PP. Not that worried about the contract as Karlsson, Copp, Cat, Stamkos, Gibson, Seider, and Raymond all have the same expiring term and Maata, Petry, Walman, and Abdelkader would already be off the books. I disagree with everyone on here overpaying Seider and Raymond with 8 year $7/8 million deals and dismiss all those ACGM. These two contracts are a lot closer to what they actually will get just you wait and see. Maybe they get a little more I’ll concede, but anyone who has paid attention to Yzerman’s GM career knows he does bridge deals and is stubborn as hell on $ amount to young players. Sergachev got $4.8x3 before getting $8.5x8 for example. Kucherov got 4.76x3 before getting $9.5x8. We’re not Buffalo or Ottawa, these guys aren’t going anywhere.
24 mars à 1 h 22
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Pass on paying $10M for Ghost-on-steroids.
24 mars à 2 h 2
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Quoting: FriendlyGhost
Pass on paying $10M for Ghost-on-steroids.

Pass on all your hockey takes
24 mars à 2 h 23
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Quoting: SweetRevenge19
Pittsburgh sheds a ton of salary to retool with and gets back nearly what they gave up in the trade, why wouldn’t they do it? I think Karlsson would be a great fit on the wings as good pairing with Edvinsson and mentor as well, while an upgrade over Ghost on PP. Not that worried about the contract as Karlsson, Copp, Cat, Stamkos, Gibson, Seider, and Raymond all have the same expiring term and Maata, Petry, Walman, and Abdelkader would already be off the books. I disagree with everyone on here overpaying Seider and Raymond with 8 year $7/8 million deals and dismiss all those ACGM. These two contracts are a lot closer to what they actually will get just you wait and see. Maybe they get a little more I’ll concede, but anyone who has paid attention to Yzerman’s GM career knows he does bridge deals and is stubborn as hell on $ amount to young players. Sergachev got $4.8x3 before getting $8.5x8 for example. Kucherov got 4.76x3 before getting $9.5x8. We’re not Buffalo or Ottawa, these guys aren’t going anywhere.


I don't disagree with your assessment on the Yzerman contracts, Point is another one and even the Debrincat contact is proof of that. That said, I feel this team would be much better locking these guys up long term and maybe sacrificing the next season or two in order to be alot more competitive in years prior. You can look at those deals and say pretty easily that it's what Yzerman does. My argument is that it was a different time, more flat cap, and a different team, a legitimate Stanley Cup contender who almost had a 3-peat. There might have been a desire for these guys to take slight discounts to stay together. I would look at Brayden Point's bridge as a better comparable for Raymond. Also take into account the percentage of the cap the deal takes. Raymond, if compared to Kucherov would need 5.7M to be a similar contract. Brayden Point would be 7M. I used comparables of Boldy, Caufield, Cozens and Svechnikov for Raymond and Heiskenen and Power for Seider. I guess it all determines in which way you want the team to go, get a bit better for the short term but possibly lose out in the long term of those guys grow beyond what they could be signed for long term. Or sacrifice a bit in the short term in hopes that those long term deals will provide great value in the long run.
As for Karlsson, I personally feel like I would rather Edvinsson partner with a more defensively responsible player instead of trying to have to cover for him all the time. I think that would help him grow his game a bit more, which I believe is a bit more of a two way style, than force him to make defensive plays he probably isn't ready for. I would look at Roy, Pesce or Tanev as guys I would want him to be partnered with. I could see the desire for Simon though, Karlsson was probably a hero for him growing up.
No idea what will happen with Stamkos but I do know that he would get the same money after taxes in Tampa if he signed for 7M. I could see him taking a bit of a discount to stay in Tampa.
Also to note, Yzerman didn't sign Sergachev, he was already in Detroit when that deal was signed.
24 mars à 3 h 21
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Ducks aren't retaining for 3 years on Gibson. LOL

Who do you think Verbeek is, Mike Grier?
24 mars à 3 h 25
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Quoting: SweetRevenge19
Pass on all your hockey takes


I'll pass on all of yours.

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24 mars à 10 h 8
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Hawks decline. They aren't giving up anything in a Smith trade. Smith takes a 2nd or a 3rd to dump in Chicago.
 
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