Hawks should take a gamble on Kaapo

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I mean I'd take a gamble on him too but his best season was 40 points. A foward whos best season was .5 ppg isn't worth a 1st, doesn't matter if he was 2nd overall that was half a decade ago

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22 mars à 15 h 3

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Other than his draft position, there is nothing in Kakko's body of work that suggests his value should be a 1st. I would consider a non Hawks own 2nd and a prospect of some sort (nothing in the top dozen or so of the Hawks pool). Kakko has enough NHL games under multiple respected coaches that he is more likely to be what he is and not someone that blossoms in a change of scenery. And he is also going from pretty cheap to getting a pay raise as an RFA when his agent uses his 40 point season as the reference point.

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22 mars à 15 h 5

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Thanks, ChiHawk, for all the thought you put into this post. It's exciting to contemplate the Hawks' future, and you help me see that better. It's easier to suffer the pain now, for a better glimpse of what will no doubt be a different team with MUCH more potential in a few years.

If I'm the Hawks, I'd make your deal for Kappo. Somehow, I bet that Ranger fans will have another opinion! {;- )

Cheers, LA

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22 mars à 15 h 12

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Quoting: FoxYou727

I mean I'd take a gamble on him too but his best season was 40 points. A foward whos best season was .5 ppg isn't worth a 1st, doesn't matter if he was 2nd overall that was half a decade ago

He's likely worth a 2nd for a flyer, but Rangers fans go crazy so was being generous

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22 mars à 15 h 14

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No chance the Hawks trade their original 1st but NYR would consider it for Tampa's first this year (after we take care of them in the first round lol)

In all seriousness if Moore, Rinzel, Nazar, or a 1st are the table the Rangers definitely consider it.

22 mars à 15 h 15

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Wouldn't pay a 1st for Kakko and wouldn't use #4 overall on Eiserman.

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22 mars à 15 h 18

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Quoting: ChiHawk

He's likely worth a 2nd for a flyer, but Rangers fans go crazy so was being generous

What Kakko is worth vs What it’ll take to pry him away from the Rangers are two completely different conversations….for some reason people on this site have a hard time understand

The rangers do NOT need picks. They need a top 6 RW of all things. So if that’s not what you’re offering then the trade dies

22 mars à 15 h 20

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Quoting: ChiHawk

He's likely worth a 2nd for a flyer, but Rangers fans go crazy so was being generous

I remember when Rags fans didn't want to include him in any Eichel trade 😂

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22 mars à 15 h 21

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Hmmmm... Well, I guess if I were willing to cough up TOR's 1st next year, then I'd definitely be willing to cough up a 2nd, instead, to take a flyer on Kappo! LOL. I'd be happy to be wrong about this. {;- )

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22 mars à 15 h 23

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Quoting: Rags21

what has Kakko done to prove he is worth a top 6 winger? His best season was 40 points in 82 games that is middle 6 winger stats. A first is already to much plus you can just trade that 1st for a top 6 winger like when the habs trade romanov for 13t overall than flipped the 13th for Dach

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22 mars à 15 h 23

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22 mars à 15 h 26

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Quoting: FoxYou727

I never said the trade for be Kakko for a top 6 winger, 1 for 1….but that’s the only thing the rangers are missing

That 1st could easily be worse than Kakko, since it’ll be closer to a 2nd round pick lol

Dach hasn’t even proved he’s worth the risk yet

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22 mars à 15 h 33

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Quoting: Rags21

my bad misread you. Still getting a first for Kakko even if it 20-32 is a steal, his best season was 40 points, most of his value is based upon the fact he was #2

And I was using the Romanov/Dach/13th as an example i.e trading Kakko for that 1st and flipping that 1st for a top 6 winger

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22 mars à 15 h 35

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Quoting: wojohawk

The market has been set with Newhook, Dach, etc

22 mars à 15 h 36

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Rangers pass, keep your pick.

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Quoting: FoxYou727

Kirby Dach career high 18 points 5v5: flirting
Kaapo Kahko career high 32 points 5v5: harrassment

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22 mars à 15 h 38

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Quoting: FoxYou727

I mean spit out some potential top RWs they could get with Kakko/1st round pick that teams would part with….keep in mind the rangers have limited cap space as well

The good thing is the Rangers don’t need Kakko to be a point per game player. And quite frankly, not every top draft pick comes into the league as lights it up. Besides, there’s way more to hockey than just points

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22 mars à 15 h 44

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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan

There is no way that Kakko is worth a first or any of those prospects... He's a bottom-6 piece who the only impressive thing about him is being a 2nd overall pick

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22 mars à 15 h 47

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Quoting: ChiHawk

He's likely worth a 2nd for a flyer, but Rangers fans go crazy so was being generous

Well, to all on this ACGM: thanks for edumacation.

And, ChiHawk, you seem correct in that the consensus (from fans of teams OTHER than the Rags) appears to be that Kappo is worth taking a flyer on for a 2nd rounder of some sort (perhaps with a prospect, too), AND that Rags fans deem that valuation WAY too low!

GLTA!

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22 mars à 15 h 49

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Quoting: LivingAnew

GLTA!

I hate the rangers and Kaako should fetch a late 1st at least if put on the market

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22 mars à 15 h 49

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Quoting: Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan

Kaapo is not worth Moore, Rinzel or Nazar; not a chance. At best he may get a late 1st but more likely a 2nd rounder is about the best the Rangers can expect in return.

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22 mars à 15 h 50

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It’s interesting that fans making ACGMs trading for Kakko seem to be placing him in their top-six despite the fact he’s apparently only worth a 2nd. The majority of Rangers fans don’t want to get rid of him at all, turning down these kinds of trades has nothing to do with Kakko’s value in a vacuum, but rather what he provides to the team as it is trying to compete. A 2025 late first does nothing to help the Rangers now.

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22 mars à 15 h 50

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Quoting: dgibb10

I hate the rangers and Kaako should fetch a late 1st at least if put on the market

Copy that, dgibb; thx

22 mars à 15 h 51

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Quoting: dgibb10

I hate the rangers and Kaako should fetch a late 1st at least if put on the market

At best a late 1st. He's had 5 seasons in the NHL, your statement might be true after his first 3 seasons but after 5 seasons, not under contract (although an RFA), he's probably worth a 2nd and maybe a late 1st on a good day.

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