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Another bad year and then 2 options

Créé par: KentMcNally

Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal

Date de création initiale: 15 mars 2024

Publié: 15 mars 2024

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Montreal will draft one of Lindstrom, Demidov, Eiserman or Catton this year.

Make no major additions this off-season and go into 2024-2025 with roughly the same team (with Kirby Dach back). That would likely lead to another bad year in 2025 (picking between 5 and 16 next year).

I would trade the 2024 Winnipeg first round pick and Montreal's 2025 second round pick for a first round pick in next year's draft to a middling team that likely would be OK with taking a first round pick this year and expects they will be near the playoffs next year, meaning that the 2025 pick won't be great. This would be a team like Minnesota, Calgary, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, Buffalo, Ottawa, the Islanders, New Jersey, Detroit, Vancouver. Nashville or Seattle. I would throw in some 2nd round picks plus a Jordan Harris and/or Sean Farrell if necessary.

That would give Montreal 3 first round picks in 2025. This is where the options come in:

#1 Combine the 3 first round picks in a trade to move up the board as much as possible and hopefully get a McQueen, Martone, Misa or something very close (Montreal's own first round pick should be pretty good). That would give Montreal a possible future 2nd line of: Eiserman + Dach + McQueen.

#2 If there are any premium free agents that are actually going to make it to free agency, then use the Calgary 2025 first and the other first round pick that was acquired in trading the 2024 Winnipeg first round pick to dump Gallagher and Anderson in order to free up a lot of cap space. You could possibly even trade the Montreal first round pick if necessary in order to get rid of Gallagher and Anderson. Then go after a premium free agent in 2025 (I am aware that Montreal will have to overpay quite a bit to land a premium free agent) to play on one of the top 2 lines (Draisaitl, Marner, Rantanen, Konecny, Verhaege). This option is much riskier, as there is absolutely no way to be sure that a premium free agent would pick Montreal in July (after the June draft) is over and Montreal has traded those picks, but it would probably speed up the rebuild.

Transactions

1.

MTL

Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (BUF)

BUF

Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (COL)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (MTL)

2.

MTL

Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (DET)

DET

For the same return in the Buffalo trade

3.

MTL

Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (MIN)

MIN

For the same return in the Buffalo trade.

4.

MTL

Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (NSH)

NSH

For the same return in the Buffalo trade.

5.

MTL

Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (OTT)

OTT

For the same return in the Buffalo trade.

6.

MTL

Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (PIT)

PIT

For the same return in the Buffalo trade.

7.

MTL

Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (SEA)

SEA

For the same return in the Buffalo trade.

8.

MTL

Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (STL)

STL

For the same return in the Buffalo trade.

9.

MTL

Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (VAN)

VAN

For the same return in the Buffalo trade.

Rachats de contrats

Karl Alzner: 833 333 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Joel Edmundson: 1 750 000 $ (50%)
Jeff Petry: 2 343 750 $ (50%)
Jake Allen: 1 925 000 $ (50%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2024
2025
2026

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	83 500 000 $	75 810 416 $	1 170 000 $	4 035 000 $	7 689 584 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Caufield, Cole 7 850 000 $7 850 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 8	Suzuki, Nick 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ C UFA - 7	Gallagher, Brendan 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Pearson, Tanner 3 250 000 $3 250 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Newhook, Alex 2 900 000 $2 900 000 $ C, AG RFA - 4	Anderson, Josh 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC UFA - 4
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 2	Evans, Jake 1 700 000 $1 700 000 $ C UFA - 2	Armia, Joel 3 400 000 $3 400 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2
Roy, Joshua 835 000 $835 000 $ (57 500 $$58K) AG, AD RFA - 3	White, Colin 775 000 $775 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Slafkovsky, Juraj 950 000 $950 000 $ (3 500 000 $$4M) AD, AG RFA - 2
Pezzetta, Michael 812 500 $812 500 $ AG, AD UFA - 2		Ylönen, Jesse 775 000 $775 000 $ AD, AG RFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Matheson, Michael 4 875 000 $4 875 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 3	Savard, David 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Montembeault, Samuel 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ G UFA - 1
Harris, Jordan 1 400 000 $1 400 000 $ DG/DD RFA - 2	Kovacevic, Johnathan 766 667 $766 667 $ DD UFA - 2	Primeau, Cayden 890 000 $890 000 $ G RFA - 2
Struble, Jayden 867 500 $867 500 $ (57 500 $$58K) DG RFA - 2
Guhle, Kaiden 863 333 $863 333 $ (420 000 $$420K) DG/DD RFA - 2
Xhekaj, Arber 828 333 $828 333 $ DG/DD RFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
	Dvorak, Christian 4 450 000 $4 450 000 $ C M-NTC UFA - 2	Price, Carey 10 500 000 $10 500 000 $ G NMC UFA - 3
	Dach, Kirby 3 362 500 $3 362 500 $ C, AD RFA - 3
	Wideman, Chris 762 500 $762 500 $ DD UFA - 1

15 mars à 10 h 24

#1

Shibbal18

Rejoint: janv. 2016

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Don't see that Sabre trade making sense for anyone, including MTL

15 mars à 10 h 26

#2

Rejoint: avr. 2022

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Heads up. If Pitt picks in the top 10 this year, their 2025 1st will belong to SJ.

KentMcNally a aimé ceci.

15 mars à 10 h 30

#3

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Fall River Habs

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Quoting: Shibbal18

Don't see that Sabre trade making sense for anyone, including MTL

Why?
It gets 3 draft prospects in Buffalo's system a year earlier than the 2025 pick so that those picks can help the Sabres sooner. Buffalo has to think that next year's team will be better than this year. so their pick next year would be at best in the teens (while still getting 3 draft picks plus possibly Harris and or Farrell from Montreal for a possible total of 5 players). There is some risk involved on both sides, but that is what GMs do in their jobs.

15 mars à 10 h 43

#4

Shibbal18

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Quoting: KentMcNally

Why?
It gets 3 draft prospects in Buffalo's system a year earlier than the 2025 pick so that those picks can help the Sabres sooner. Buffalo has to think that next year's team will be better than this year. so their pick next year would be at best in the teens (while still getting 3 draft picks plus possibly Harris and or Farrell from Montreal for a possible total of 5 players). There is some risk involved on both sides, but that is what GMs do in their jobs.

Sabres specifically don't need 3 more prospects in their system. And both teams are gambling on the 2025 pick. Rather just keep it and use it at the tdl

15 mars à 10 h 47

#5

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Fall River Habs

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Quoting: Shibbal18

Sabres specifically don't need 3 more prospects in their system. And both teams are gambling on the 2025 pick. Rather just keep it and use it at the tdl

Using it at the trade deadline is a reasonable alternative for Buffalo.

15 mars à 11 h 21

#6

Rejoint: déc. 2017

Messages: 21,728

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This is a draft day trade and for most GM's there would have to be someone they really like still available at Winnipeg's pick.

15 mars à 11 h 23

#7

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Fall River Habs

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Quoting: aedoran

This is a draft day trade and for most GM's there would have to be someone they really like still available at Winnipeg's pick.

Yeah, I agree.

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15 mars à 11 h 31

#8

Rejoint: juin 2017

Messages: 1,111

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With the way this season went and having to forfeit a 1st (likely 2026) I can’t see the sens doing this in advance. Maybe at the deadline if things are looking good but definitely not in the summer!

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15 mars à 12 h 4

#9

Devo's 2nd Mock Draf

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Yeah Ottawa wouldn't be trading away their 2024 1st rounder... we'll take that package for the Boston/Det package though I'm sure.

15 mars à 14 h 8

#10

Rejoint: févr. 2017

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Yeah, I wouldn't. The Jets pick is looking like 26 or so this year. The Sabres have been playing better hockey, now that the pressure is off, unfortunately, I'm assuming the Sabres are picking top 10 until they show that they've figured stuff out. Because I do not trust the Sabres front office, I assume that we would be trading a top 10 pick next year for pick 26 and a couple seconds. If this was the nfl, that would make sense. In the NHL, the Sabres get crushed doing that, and it's not like the Sabres prospect pool is weak and shallow.

15 mars à 14 h 18

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Fall River Habs

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Quoting: Riddick19

Yeah Ottawa wouldn't be trading away their 2024 1st rounder... we'll take that package for the Boston/Det package though I'm sure.

Well it is for the 2025 first round pick, not 2024. Maybe Ottawa is in the teens for a first round pick in 2025

24 mars à 6 h 28

#12

Devo's 2nd Mock Draf

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Quoting: KentMcNally

Well it is for the 2025 first round pick, not 2024. Maybe Ottawa is in the teens for a first round pick in 2025

Judging where Ottawa is in the standings? Why would they risk quality of quantity in a gamble they can push up 20 spots in the standings next year? For the same reasons why Montreal would want to make that deal? Is the main reason why Ottawa doesn't do it. Is tghis a trade you make with Vegas? Col, or Bos?

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