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Forum: Armchair-GMHier à 22 h 43
Sujet: Young forward
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>StutzlesNumber1Fan</b></div><div>Montreal 1st this season is included in ANY trade for Brady lol.</div></div>

This is for the 25-26 season.... So this is based on Ottawa ****ting the bed again next season and Brady asking for a trade.... Ottawa if they move Brady, means they are basically doing a 2nd rebuild albeit not a total rebuild. Anderson would be off the table.... Do remember Ottawa isn't going to trade Brady down the road to one of our biggest rivals for what would appear fair trade. Ottawa will want Mtl to overpay if we have to battle Tkachuk 4 times a season and then possibly in the playoff down the road.

It would have to be more along the lines of Guhle, 25 1st, CGY 25 1st, and likely Mesar.... That might get a deal done if Brady asks for a trade. I know it sounds like a lot but Ottawa won't be giving Brady for what fans think is "fair"... Could you imagine the bidding war for the guy? PPG power forward who fights with anyone, always top 5 in hits, and shots... leadership.... Teams would be lining up around the block for him.
Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 23 h 16
Sujet: Would Calgary do this
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lancebmx</b></div><div>I second this, but I heard a rumour that Lehner will be ready to play next season. Complicates things a bit but not where they have to give away cheap young players on good deals for.</div></div>

Hey who else are they going to give up? I agree with everything about Whitecloud, Vegas in my mind has the best core of defense in the league. But truth is, Vegas will be held over a barrell if Lehner comes back which makes sense. He took an entire season off, is 32 and his career is starting the back 9. He is in bankrupcy and Vegas fans should Lehner will put Lehner first. He will want to play to earn another contract. If this happens? Teams won't be taking the guys they want to ship out. As a Sens fan, some fans that follow other teams besides their own will know Ottawa ran into cap trouble and we couldn't sign one of our better centers... (Pinto) and no one was willing to take a Hamonic.... or Joseph... not unless Ottawa added a Ridley Grieg, or Tyler Boucher.... Vegas will likely suffer a simlar fate. However for a guy like Whitecloud, other teams will want him but the term might not be what they like if they think he might fall down the lineup. But I've seen him a ton I think her's worth his price and more. He was great alongside Chabot at the WHC 2 seasons ago, and Chabot needs a consistent partner he can trust. Whitecloud for me comes to mind. Hence why I proposed the trade.

Just saying though, Whitecloud, Hague, Dorofeyev, etc.... These are the guys other GM's are going to be pressing for. I think Vegas fans will really dislike the compensation that teams are asking for to take on cap....
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Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 4 h 22
Sujet: Would Calgary do this
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Assuming that Robin Lehner stays on the LTIR list, the Golden Knights have about $6.5 million to allot among 4 roster slots. (Already under contract for next season: ten forwards, $45 million; seven defensemen, $30.2 million: two goalies, $5.7 million.) They can afford to give their one important RFA (Pavel Dorofeyev) a significant raise and fill the other three forward openings with $1 million AAV guys without having to dump a cheap young defenseman with term who has sufficient quality to play #1 RD for you.</div></div>

Actually the Knights have something closer to $2M with 10 forwards 7 defenseman and 2 goalies signed..... Stone comes off LTIR...plus Doro has arbitration rights and will definitely get a sizeable raise
Forum: Armchair-GM11 avr. à 15 h 34
Sujet: One Big Move Two Gambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Borocop</b></div><div>I think projecting norris to play a healthy 82 games at any point is a bit iffy at this point. If he does then thats huge, but JG would be insurance that we maintain a good top 9 in the event Norris (or anyone else for that matter) misses time up the line-up. If we can keep Stutzle-Norris-Pinto healthy for a year, then theres still a spot for him on the third-line wing (or even 4c if you really want to run deep) if need be. We could even shimmy norris to the wing if faceoffs are too much on his shoulder and go Stutzle-Pinto-JGP. The cap hit will be fine imo. once Chychrun is gone, the term is okay and the number is not great but its not un-manageable especially given we have the majority of our core players locked into long-term deals at good AAVs. He may not be worth his cap-hit in full, but I also dont think hes worth nothing.

I think the most important thing though is that he fits what we need and is going to be cheap to acquire. We need another responsible 2-way forward with experience and leadership, but we dont have the assets to be able to spend big on one. This is also JGPs worst season since hes been with the islanders, I also think he could have a bit of a resurgence next season as well.</div></div>

If he was making league minimum? Maybe.... But $5M is way too much for a smallish player that doesn't produce much. If you're going to spend $5M in cap space, there are about 50 players easily that would be better options for that cap to be spent. Not to mention a guy like Jarventie would be a better option on the wing than a natural center. I agree keeping Stutzle, Norris, &amp; Pinto healthy for an entire season seems impossible at this point, but we'll see where Ottawa selects in the draft as well.
Forum: Armchair-GM9 avr. à 1 h 59
Sujet: One Big Move Two Gambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Borocop</b></div><div>Its not that i dont think Greig is a bad player obviously, I would just rather have at least 1 true centre on the roster whos older than 23. Greig has played well but he has been largely on the wing this year, keeping him at the wing and putting JGP at centre (for example) would let him keep playing his game of flying up and down the ice and getting below the goalline. Its not a direct substitution for Greig either so theres not much sense in comparing their numbers imo, we would be adding JGP to keep greig playing at the wing not to keep him out of the lineup. If greig does end up playing centre, we would probably be looking for a third line wing in that pageau salary range anyway, I would just rather add experince down the middle instead of on the wing</div></div>

Oh no I get that.... But Where does he fit down the middle with Stutzle, Norris, and Pinto all being better centers? Greig likely goes back to the wing regardless because he's not going to be the 4th line center. But Ottawa doesn't need to shell out the type of cap hit for a guy like Pageau. He's not worth his cap hit, and there really isn't any room for him in the top 9.
Forum: Armchair-GM8 avr. à 4 h 5
Sujet: Big Offseason Shake Up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMDannyB</b></div><div>Well the only major piece on our roster is TK and he’s kept Brady’s scoring pace so that wouldn’t even make sense to include him and then everyone else is talent wise is probably at Frost’s level and then Brink and Bonk are too solid rated prospects. Quite frankly Matt Tkachuk got less than what I’m offering, Brady isn’t getting more if moved lol.</div></div>

Matt Tkachuk was traded for a guy who recorded 115 points. Don't look what he did for Calgary, it was what Tkachuk brought in.... a 115 point winger and a #1 defenseman.<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMDannyB</b></div><div>Well the only major piece on our roster is TK and he’s kept Brady’s scoring pace so that wouldn’t even make sense to include him and then everyone else is talent wise is probably at Frost’s level and then Brink and Bonk are too solid rated prospects. Quite frankly Matt Tkachuk got less than what I’m offering, Brady isn’t getting more if moved lol.</div></div>

So why is it again you're asking for Brady? Why woul;dn't you give that up or something relatively close to that for Batherson? Bath has close to the same stats Brady does.... Not to mention he makes way less money? Oh!!!! It's because you figure the rest of tyhe stuff that makes Brady the premiere Power forward doesn't come into the conversation? Always top 5 in hits and shots? Always 35+ goals? Fights, hits, etc..... exactly... TK doesn't hold anything to Brady. Not to mention there aren't many wingers I'd want to have on my team in any polayoiff series more than I would Brady. This guy just oozes playoff dominance. So yeah, a couple of late picks and solid but unspectacular prospoects aren't going to get that deal done. If you think there wouldn't be terams to offer way more than that? You're dreaming.
Forum: Armchair-GM7 avr. à 1 h 17
Sujet: Big changes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>Ottawa got **** all for Debrincat because he refused to sign, and it was something or nothing for him, they PAID 7OA+ to get him. The context for which Devrincats value was driven down doesn't exist with Zegras.</div></div>

My point being is Zegras doesn't have much value!! Doesn't matter if Ottawa took less than they paid for him. DeBrincat had a down year, and still landed a late 1st rounder, a 20G scorer, a prospect and a 4th round pick.... Zegras hasn't done anything in the league to suggest he's worth the crap package Ottawa got. I'mk saying his value is even less than DeBricat was with one team on the table. The guy is coming off a serious injury, having a crap year, and is making almost $6M in cap hit!!! If you think teams are going to throw massive pieces at a player like that? You're out of your mind.
Forum: Armchair-GM7 avr. à 0 h 15
Sujet: Big changes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>The point is the offer is trash, you brought up Debrincat (got 7OA) and Chychrun (got 12OA) as comparables for the trade where the best piece is going to be 26OA, and you know it's a trash offer.

And remind me again what happened to Debrincats goal scoring when he wasn't riding on Showtime's coattails in Ottawa?</div></div>

What are you talking about? Ottawa paid a 7th overall for a 40G player. Ottawa traded him to Det for a 1st (Bos), Kubalik (20G), D. Sebrango, and a 4th rd pick. You think Zegras deserves more than that? That was DeBrincat with 27G 66pts. You think Zegras commands more than that? You think he even commands that? He's not even worth what Ottawa got for DeBrincat. DeBrincat also wasn't coming off a serious injury like Zegras is.... That offer for Zegras is not a bad offer at all, I actually think Anheim takes it to be honest. They create almost $6M in cap space for a player that doesn't seem to fit into their system, is coming off a bad injury, and has had an absolutely pathetic season.
Forum: Armchair-GM5 avr. à 21 h 13
Sujet: One Big Move Two Gambles
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Borocop</b></div><div>Yeah if your centres are Norris Pinto Stutzle it will be fine, no need for JGP. If the top 9 Cs though are a combination of Stutzle Pinto and Greig/Ostapchuk (which is something that could happen), with all due respect to those guys but thats not good enough to be an actual playoff team imo. Pinto could be good at 2C if we add a winger to compliment him and Batherson, and Greig/ZO might be good enough to slot into 3C in a pinch (I think theyre both better suited for the wing though), but that is a ton of inexperience down the middle. My only issue is that if the isles are willing to eat like 40% of his contract, more teams are probably going to be in on him and it'll drive the return up for picks/pieces that were pretty short on. I think if we bridge pinto for 2 years we could easily fit JGP in 5m and maybe get a pick with him to boot</div></div>

The team will be looking to replace Tarasenko... Factor in the draft as well, there are kids in this draft that could be ready to play in the NHL next season. Greig is a capable 3rd line center. 24 points in his rookie year is pretty decent and is +11 on one of the worst teams in the NHL. Pageau has 7 more points and is -9 on a much better team. Why pay $4M for a guy who will produce slightly more than a guy on an ELC? Ottawa has more important needs than an aging center who makes too much money, and isn't all that productive?