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Équipe: 2023-24 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 7 mars 2024
Publié: 7 mars 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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BUF
  1. Kakko, Kaapo
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2025 (NYR)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (NYR)
Détails additionnels:
Would like a 2nd in return instead of a 3rd, so making it a 3rd and a 6th. NYR make some cap room here.

BUF aquires a talented NHL F who fits the mold of what they are looking for and also in their age-range, with lots of room to grow.
NYR
  1. Girgensons, Zemgus (1 250 000 $ retained)
  2. Okposo, Kyle (1 250 000 $ retained)
  3. Östlund, Noah
Détails additionnels:
NYR add toughness and grit for their Cup run. They also add goals (19GF compared to Kakko's 7GF). They also get a potential future top-6 Swede in Ostlund.
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7 mars à 2 h 24
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Why do u want Kakko??
He is what he is- a decent 2way middle6 player

I’d rather hang on to Ostlund & see what he becomes

Okposo & Girgs (and EJ & Olofsson) can be shipped out to whoever will give us the best draft picks
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7 mars à 2 h 26
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Rather just keep Ostlund, the rest of the trade is overkill for Kakko straight up
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7 mars à 2 h 28
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
Why do u want Kakko??
He is what he is- a decent 2way middle6 player

I’d rather hang on to Ostlund & see what he becomes

Okposo & Girgs (and EJ & Olofsson) can be shipped out to whoever will give us the best draft picks


Not sure that I do want him. Just he's in the rumor-ville.

I think Ostlund's potential is probably higher.

BUT, BUF wants/needs grit and size. Something Kakko has and Ostlund does not.

I could see Kakko being a target for KA. Just seeing what a potential trade could look like...
7 mars à 2 h 30
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Rather just keep Ostlund, the rest of the trade is overkill for Kakko straight up


Ostlund is probably at least 2 years away from an NHL roster and then probably at least 2 more years before he is actually contributing, more than being detrimental.

Kakko helps sooner.
7 mars à 2 h 31
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Quoting: worldwidesensei
Ostlund is probably at least 2 years away from an NHL roster and then probably at least 2 more years before he is actually contributing, more than being detrimental.

Kakko helps sooner.


Kakko isn't good, he doesn't help at all
7 mars à 2 h 32
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Kakko isn't good, he doesn't help at all


He just turned 23. His best years are just about to begin. Anyway, I see him as a KA target.
7 mars à 2 h 33
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
Why do u want Kakko??
He is what he is- a decent 2way middle6 player

I’d rather hang on to Ostlund & see what he becomes

Okposo & Girgs (and EJ & Olofsson) can be shipped out to whoever will give us the best draft picks


Hahahahaha
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7 mars à 2 h 34
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Quoting: worldwidesensei
Not sure that I do want him. Just he's in the rumor-ville.

I think Ostlund's potential is probably higher.

BUT, BUF wants/needs grit and size. Something Kakko has and Ostlund does not.

I could see Kakko being a target for KA. Just seeing what a potential trade could look like...


I doubt NyR moves him
He’s a decent player they likely don’t wanna give up on yet

Plus, they could get Girgs &/or Okposo from us for picks
So they don’t really have a reason to include him- not currently anyways- maybe in the offseason after another failed playoff run?

I don’t think he’s a guy the Sabres should target though
Idk, maybe it’s bc i don’t think he ever comes close to living up to his potential when drafted
I like our young talent & the way we’ve been developing these kids lately
I’d rather keep Ostlund than take on a bit of a reclamation project i guess
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6'2 206lb wingers don't grow on trees.

He certainly hasn't lived up to his potential yet. Key word being yet.
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7 mars à 2 h 38
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Quoting: worldwidesensei
6'2 206lb wingers don't grow on trees.

He certainly hasn't lived up to his potential yet. Key word being yet.


Lots of guys NEVER live up to their potential
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7 mars à 2 h 39
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Hahahahaha


Great point !
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I doubt NyR moves him
He’s a decent player they likely don’t wanna give up on yet

Plus, they could get Girgs &/or Okposo from us for picks
So they don’t really have a reason to include him- not currently anyways- maybe in the offseason after another failed playoff run?

I don’t think he’s a guy the Sabres should target though
Idk, maybe it’s bc i don’t think he ever comes close to living up to his potential when drafted
I like our young talent & the way we’ve been developing these kids lately
I’d rather keep Ostlund than take on a bit of a reclamation project i guess


When does Ostlund, if ever, start out-producing Kakko though? If he reaches his potential, maybe in 2027-2028?

KA is showing he is no longer in patience mode. Kakko helps now and in the future.
7 mars à 2 h 43
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Quoting: worldwidesensei
When does Ostlund, if ever, start out-producing Kakko though? If he reaches his potential, maybe in 2027-2028?

KA is showing he is no longer in patience mode. Kakko helps now and in the future.


I don’t think Kakko ever gets much better than he is now though, so how much is he really gonna help us?
Just don’t think he’s the right target

There’s other guys out there that can help- example:
Trenin from NSH is a UFA after the season & is a big tough winger (who can also plate Center)
And we wouldn’t have to give up a good prospect to get him
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And KA loves them 2019 draftees.....

Byram, Cozens, Krebs, Johnson.....Kakko?
7 mars à 2 h 48
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I don’t think Kakko ever gets much better than he is now though, so how much is he really gonna help us?
Just don’t think he’s the right target

There’s other guys out there that can help- example:
Trenin from NSH is a UFA after the season & is a big tough winger (who can also plate Center)
And we wouldn’t have to give up a good prospect to get him


We need more than 1 player....We're losing a ton of Fs with no one that can immediately step in.

Mitts - out
Ox, Girgs, Olofsson - out soon
Robinson - potentially out

We need experienced F players and a lot of them. Plus don't really have much money to mess around with in FA.
7 mars à 3 h 5
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Quoting: worldwidesensei
We need more than 1 player....We're losing a ton of Fs with no one that can immediately step in.

Mitts - out
Ox, Girgs, Olofsson - out soon
Robinson - potentially out

We need experienced F players and a lot of them. Plus don't really have much money to mess around with in FA.


Idk what to tell ya?
NyR isn’t gonna move Kakko anyways (most likely)

And I’m not gonna agree with you that he’s a good target
There’s plenty of others out there i like better anyways
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7 mars à 3 h 56
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Idk what to tell ya?
NyR isn’t gonna move Kakko anyways (most likely)

And I’m not gonna agree with you that he’s a good target
There’s plenty of others out there i like better anyways


Don't need to tell me anything. Just wouldn't be surprised to see a trade for Kakko. I'm not saying it's a for sure done deal, it obviously isn't.

As I labeled it, "just spitballing"
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Quoting: worldwidesensei
Don't need to tell me anything. Just wouldn't be surprised to see a trade for Kakko. I'm not saying it's a for sure done deal, it obviously isn't.

As I labeled it, "just spitballing"


And that’s fine
Just don’t think it’s the right move
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Quoting: worldwidesensei
Don't need to tell me anything. Just wouldn't be surprised to see a trade for Kakko. I'm not saying it's a for sure done deal, it obviously isn't.

As I labeled it, "just spitballing"


NYR isn’t selling. Kakko is in rumours as a piece for buying. Meaning an upgrade. For example; Tuch…
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7 mars à 7 h 13
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Quoting: NYR1983
NYR isn’t selling. Kakko is in rumours as a piece for buying. Meaning an upgrade. For example; Tuch…


Kaakoo is not an upgrade over Tuch, he is reclamation project at this point.
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7 mars à 7 h 24
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
Great point !


The comment itself is not worthy of ANY further response.
It comes from the uninformed.
7 mars à 8 h 47
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Drury laughs and hangs up
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7 mars à 8 h 55
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Quoting: worldwidesensei
We need more than 1 player....We're losing a ton of Fs with no one that can immediately step in.

Mitts - out
Ox, Girgs, Olofsson - out soon
Robinson - potentially out

We need experienced F players and a lot of them. Plus don't really have much money to mess around with in FA.


Kulich is probably taking a spot next year, probably Rosen too. Then they can fill out the 4th line with some physicality
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Quoting: GoofyFoFoofy
Drury laughs and hangs up


To save his former franchise from making a terrible mistake
7 mars à 10 h 24
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Kaakoo is not an upgrade over Tuch, he is reclamation project at this point.


Go back and read my comment properly. If you’re still confused I can clear it up. But you’re gravely mistaken as far as why I said 😂😂
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