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Hockey Trade

Créé par: Celtics21
Équipe: 2023-24 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 4 mars 2024
Publié: 4 mars 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
During 32 thoughts, Friedman said the Bruins were interested in a hockey trade. Player for player rather than futures. Made me wonder what was possible. I had been thinking more futures for Ullmark. Still believe the Holtz/Vanacek deal makes more sense
Transactions
1.
BOS
  1. Daws, Nico
  2. Nosek, Tomas
  3. Toffoli, Tyler
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
Boston gets more scoring in Toffoli plus a young goaltender to battle it out with Bussi next year. Nosek gives the Bruins a 4th line center who can win a draw.
NJD
  1. Forbort, Derek
  2. Ullmark, Linus
Détails additionnels:
NJ gets its goalie without giving up their 2024 first or Holtz.
2.
BOS
  1. Johnson, Erik (1 625 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Boston secures a bit of toughness in the backline option and injury security.
BUF
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2026 (BOS)
Rachats de contrats
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2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $81 329 167 $4 500 000 $637 500 $2 170 833 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Bruins de Boston
6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Bruins de Boston
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Bruins de Boston
11 250 000 $11 250 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo de Bruins de Boston
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
C, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
2 125 000 $2 125 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Bruins de Boston
2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Bruins de Boston
775 000 $775 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Bruins de Boston
3 687 500 $3 687 500 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
Logo de Bruins de Boston
3 475 000 $3 475 000 $
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DG
NTC, NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Bruins de Boston
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Devils du New Jersey
850 833 $850 833 $ (Bonis de performance57 500 $$58K)
G
RFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
RFA - 2
Logo de Bruins de Boston
1 050 000 $1 050 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Bruins de Boston
775 000 $775 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Bruins de Boston
787 500 $787 500 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Logo de Bruins de Boston
870 000 $870 000 $ (Bonis de performance80 000 $$80K)
C
RFA - 3
Logo de Sabres de Buffalo
1 625 000 $1 625 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Équipe de réserve
Logo de Bruins de Boston
775 000 $775 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
AD
UFA - 2

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4 mars à 12 h 27
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hockey trades are one NHL player for one NHL player.
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4 mars à 12 h 29
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
hockey trades are one NHL player for one NHL player.


So 3 NHL players for 2 NHL players doesn’t count?

Care to discuss the merits of the deal?
4 mars à 12 h 36
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Interesting trade. I think the Devils keep Daws out of the three goalies but the framework looks good
4 mars à 12 h 41
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I’d prefer to swap Schmid in for Daws but devils accept.
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Quoting: Celtics21
So 3 NHL players for 2 NHL players doesn’t count?

Care to discuss the merits of the deal?


not as a hockey trade no - it's just a term designed for a 1 NHL player for 1 NHL player trade.

i kind of like the trade to be honest, as long as it comes with a corresponding move for a d man like you have here. that said i just don't think the bruins are considering moving ullmark this season.
4 mars à 12 h 52
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I’d prefer to swap Schmid in for Daws but devils accept.


I would like incremental value for Ullmark. Including Forbort for Daws, Nosek, and a 3rd does that.

Would you substitute Schmid and a 2025 2nd for Daws and a 2024 third?
4 mars à 12 h 53
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
not as a hockey trade no - it's just a term designed for a 1 NHL player for 1 NHL player trade.

i kind of like the trade to be honest, as long as it comes with a corresponding move for a d man like you have here. that said i just don't think the bruins are considering moving ullmark this season.


Thanks. Didn’t know that.
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Quoting: Celtics21
I guess Hockey Deals are one of one plays.

I would like incremental value for Ullmark. Including Forbort for Daws, Nosek, and a 3rd does that.

Would you substitute Schmid and a 2025 2nd for Daws and a 2024 third?


Probably not. I view daws and Schmid as both worth about a 3rd, I just like Daws slightly more. If given the choice I'd prefer to keep daws, but would not add to the price to make that swap.
4 mars à 12 h 58
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The Bruins likely struggle to re-sign Toffoli and they let Nosek walk because they wanted to go a different direction. Going into next season the Bruins could have moved Ullmark and all they'll have to show for it is a 3rd round pick and an AHL level goalie. Seems like a pretty bad deal for Boston considering Toffoli and Nosek aren't going to put them over the top.
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Probably not. I view daws and Schmid as both worth about a 3rd, I just like Daws slightly more. If given the choice I'd prefer to keep daws, but would not add to the price to make that swap.


If Sweeney is willing to make a roster player for roster player type deal, I think this is where it plays out.

My immediate thought when I heard Friedman say it was Ullmark/DeBrusk/Beecher for Dubois/Talbott.

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The Bruins likely struggle to re-sign Toffoli and they let Nosek walk because they wanted to go a different direction. Going into next season the Bruins could have moved Ullmark and all they'll have to show for it is a 3rd round pick and an AHL level goalie. Seems like a pretty bad deal for Boston considering Toffoli and Nosek aren't going to put them over the top.


I could see them sign Toffoli long term
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If Sweeney is willing to make a roster player for roster player type deal, I think this is where it plays out.

My immediate thought when I heard Friedman say it was Ullmark/DeBrusk/Beecher for Dubois/Talbott.


It's certainly fair. Would be some haggling from both sides on the minor aspects (retention on toff if needed, potential retention on ullmark, daws/schmid, nosek/bastian or something like that, forbort/gryz, etc) Obviously as a fan I want to see NJD get the best out of every part of that, but they aren't things I'd care much about in terms of getting a deal over the finish line.
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You're getting Toffoli just to lose him in few months. It's a waste. Johnson has been awful this year; I wouldn't trade for him let alone add a 3rd.
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You're getting Toffoli just to lose him in few months. It's a waste. Johnson has been awful this year; I wouldn't trade for him let alone add a 3rd.


They have the cap room to keep him especially if Hanifin is off the market.

Another option is Vanacek/Holtz for Ullmark.
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They have the cap room to keep him especially if Hanifin is off the market.

Another option is Vanacek/Holtz for Ullmark.


There's a risk he walks and we're left with nothing. I'd prefer not taking Vanecek.
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There's a risk he walks and we're left with nothing. I'd prefer not taking Vanecek.


Would you retain 50% on Ullmark for Holtz/Schmid? Would NJ?
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Not much in that NJ retrun hat is of interest, Toffoli gonna walk July 1st, no interest in Nosek reunion, and Bussi is the backup, no need for more young goalie competition

If Ullmark is moved, it should be for young players/prospects/draft capital, not for pending UFAs

Even if they resign Toffoli, could do that without moving Ullmark
4 mars à 18 h 20
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Not much in that NJ retrun hat is of interest, Toffoli gonna walk July 1st, no interest in Nosek reunion, and Bussi is the backup, no need for more young goalie competition

If Ullmark is moved, it should be for young players/prospects/draft capital, not for pending UFAs

Even if they resign Toffoli, could do that without moving Ullmark


My anticipation is most players hit free agency even if traded for, so I get your point. I do think Tofolli brings something offensively to this team and if he’s open to a 3 year contract, I’d love for him to be here with the way he’s playing now.

My preference is a trade for Holtz because I believe any trade for Jersey’s first will be playoff protected.
 
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