What are thoughts. Similar return to Tanev or even less!??

Keeping in mind Tanev plays 20mins/night

Not sure the Kings have anything that fits your stated needs. The Kings aren't trading Anderson, Gavrikov has a NMC, and Englund doesn't have much trade value. Moverare is a solid defensive LHD, but considering that he cleared waivers, he's not going to add any value in a trade.

With Turcotte performing well, I could see the Kings trading Lizotte. He's a RFA at the end of the season and a good value for the contract. He's more of a 4C than a 3C, but he has played well in the 3C role when needed. He's the best bottom six center the Kings have had in over a decade.

Aside from that, all the Kings have to offer is futures. I don't see the Kings giving up a 1st round pick for Toffoli, but maybe a 2nd and a guy like Jack Hughes.

Turcotte+2nd would be of interest

20 minute a night dman or 35 goal pace winger.

Turcotte is currently playing on the Kings 1st line. He is not available, nor would the difference be a 2nd.

Yegor and a 3rd!

Dunno if there is much of comparison to dman, but price may be similar. Maybe a 1st…maybe 2nd and prospect. Just don’t know if NJD would look for ‘hockey trade’ or for futures. I guess it may depend on what is offered.

My guess it will be more young player with term/control than picks.

That would be awkward.

(Has played well recently though)

Kaliyev then, or I’d say a 1st or 1st equivalent of value.

Again, you got a 2nd+prospect for him as rental when his previous 2 seasons were a combined 31 goals and 68 points.

His current last 2 seasons are 59 goals and 115 points

I'm amused that you think the difference between a 1st and 2nd round pick is a top quality prospect.

I could see Turcotte being an ask.
Tall ask, but an ask.

I don’t think Kaliyev would be of much interest.

I could also see NJD interest in Andre Lee or Helenius

Oilers might look to move Kulak if they think Broberg is ready to play and I don't think they want to trade Broberg for a rental. Something like Kulak + 2nd.

I would move toffoli unretained for a 1st.

3rd for retention.

I'd like Turcotte a lot. I'd value him around a 1st himself.

Just trying to extract maximum value.

1st+3rd retained
1st unretained
2nd+Kaliyev for toffoli retained
2nd+turcotte for Toffoli retained+Clarke
Turcotte for Toffoli unretained
Turcotte for Clarke+2nd
Turcotte+3rd for 2025 1st

I wouldn't particularly care

I don’t think there’s much there from the oilers. The only LHD they are possibly interested in moving is Kulak for cap reasons. If he doesn’t get moved this TDL it will be in the offseason to make room for Broberg. He’s definitely more defensive then offensive but he’s fast and consistent. The only skater the oilers are probably willing to move again for cap reasons is foegel. Especially the oilers looking to add to there to 6/upgrade from foegel. If New Jersey is looking for strictly a hockey trade I’m not sure there’s a deal there.

3rd+Toffoli 50% for Foegele+1st?

I think that would work if oilers swing and miss on JG, PB or VT first. Although Ken Holland has stated multiple times he won’t trade a first for a rental.

I don't think the Kings would go for any of those.

Smells like a Sapovaliv + kind of deal to me

I'd have to figure out what I value as 1st equivalent then.

Foegele+2nd+3rd?
Foegele+Broberg+4th?
Foegele+Holloway+3rd?

Not sure on the estimates of prospect values and player values (it's why I always prefer to use picks)

Probably miss out on the 35 goal guy then, unless we really like another prospect of yours

Would be a weird one but Schmid+Toffoli 75% retained for LT?

Bad night to suggest moving him heh. Regardless of that I think the team values him too much atm and won't want to part ways with anyone that is or could be vital to the repeat chances

My simple proposal then is 1st+3rd for him 50% retained.

I failed to mention he considers Holloway and Broberg both untouchable when it comes to only getting a rental as a return. I’ve heard Lavio might be on the table, he’s having the best year to date in the A.

Lavoie passed through waivers would be shocked if he had meaningful vakue

I'd be cool with that probably. I just can't remove myself from the idea that Sapovaliv is getting sent somewhere so just threw that one out loud here