Quoting: CD282
1. Brown's bonus has already been paid out by Edmonton so the bonus cap hit is their's irrespective. So trading a 2nd to "dump" a player making league minimum is silly. Send him to the minors, send a 5th to Chicago for Entwistle.
2. Ceci is not a cap dump. He has played the 24th most minutes v Elites of any defenseman in the league over the past 2.5 seasons and has kept his head above water with a 51.8 xGF% at 5v5. He gives full effort every single night and makes just $3.25M.
3. Guentzel was barely an upgrade on Foegele pre-injury and we don't know how he'll perform post-injury. Plus he played over 90% of this TOI with Crosby while Foegele's most common center was Ryan McLeod. Why is Edmonton adding prospects & picks? Guentzel is a rental they won't be able to re-sign.
4. I think the trade value is about right, not convinced the target is though.
5. If 1st minus two 3rds is about the same value as a 2nd, why not just trade a 2nd? I don't think it's wise to give up a 1st for a 4th liner, even if he's a good one.
Thanks for the info. Wasn't sure how the bonus worked. That's why I was saying if we're paying his bonus change it to a 4th or 5th.
2. While I disagree, I think it's all relative. Like if there isn't a way we can get a definite upgrade we should just keep him, thereby he isn't a "dump". But if it means getting a RD upgrade I think I'd "dump" him with a 3rd somewhere. It's a cause-and-effect trade, I'm only saying it's a "dump" because it enables another move for a better player with the same salary, not because I think Ceci is a bad player or has a bad deal that needs to be "dumped".
3. I think Guentzel is a clear upgrade over Foegele, and if you are gonna use the argument that he's good because he plays with Crosby, you could then reason that he will also be good with McDavid or Drai. I don't think we can re-sign Foegs anyways, so for half a season it's worth the upgrade. At least in my opinion.
4. Who do you prefer?
5. Mainly just did that because I had no 2nds or 3rds left with the trades I made. Given the 2nd from the Brown deal would be a 4th-5th, just move it there and I'd take that deal, I like Dowd.
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