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Date de création initiale: 11 févr. 2024
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With Chytil out for the season, Henrique for Kakko + 2nd makes a lot of sense if NYR don't want to move their 1st. I don't think we move Vatrano yet as he might be needed depending on how the draft goes (i.e. do you move one of the top 6 if you draft Celebrini for help at RD?). Get what we can for Lyubushkin - BOS seemed like the best fit, but not fussed.
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11 févr. à 12 h 46
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11 févr. à 12 h 47
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Keep dreaming Ducks fans lol
11 févr. à 12 h 51
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Keep dreaming Ducks fans lol


What would you do instead? I mean, you need a replacement for Chytil, no? Or you don't think NYR has a chance at the cup and so don't want to invest in players for a serious cup run?
11 févr. à 12 h 56
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What would you do instead? I mean, you need a replacement for Chytil, no? Or you don't think NYR has a chance at the cup and so don't want to invest in players for a serious cup run?


They don’t “need” a replacement for chytil, especially if that’s the price for it lol Henrique is barely an upgrade over brodzinski

Right now they haven’t looked good so there’s no need to go all in. Secondly, you don’t give up a roster player to fill a hole. Rangers trade Kakko and now they need a RW. If the rangers want Rico, it’ll be for picks
11 févr. à 13 h 5
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I’d rather Boston go for Bogosian. Cheaper cap hit, cheaper cost.
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11 févr. à 13 h 7
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What would you do instead? I mean, you need a replacement for Chytil, no? Or you don't think NYR has a chance at the cup and so don't want to invest in players for a serious cup run?


Rangers fans are still adamant that Kakko can be a top 6 winger and would rather ride him to the AHL than trade him out and see him succeed elsewhere.

As a general rule of thumb, done make ACGMs with trades to NYR or TOR, their fan bases on here make it not worth the hassle.
11 févr. à 13 h 10
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Rangers fans are still adamant that Kakko can be a top 6 winger and would rather ride him to the AHL than trade him out and see him succeed elsewhere.

As a general rule of thumb, done make ACGMs with trades to NYR or TOR, their fan bases on here make it not worth the hassle.


Dude no one is saying Kakko is amazing, but they’re not gonna trade him for an aging vet rental lmao. Learn how hockey teams operate because you’re sounding stupid

You duck fans act like you’re trading away prime Mcdavid 😂
11 févr. à 13 h 16
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Quoting: Rags21
They don’t “need” a replacement for chytil, especially if that’s the price for it lol Henrique is barely an upgrade over brodzinski

Right now they haven’t looked good so there’s no need to go all in. Secondly, you don’t give up a roster player to fill a hole. Rangers trade Kakko and now they need a RW. If the rangers want Rico, it’ll be for picks


Hmmmm... I see you are one of those fans. No point arguing with someone who thinks a borderline NHLer is better than a career NHLer with a proven track record. I mean, Henrique has more than double the points and 3 times the goals of Brodzinski. Anyway...... no point in arguing, you believe what you want. I'm not going to change that, even if I bring a logical argument to the table.

Okay, understood. FWIW, Kakko is more likely to stay than go I guess. Tough to make deals that everyone is happy with.

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Rangers fans are still adamant that Kakko can be a top 6 winger and would rather ride him to the AHL than trade him out and see him succeed elsewhere.

As a general rule of thumb, done make ACGMs with trades to NYR or TOR, their fan bases on here make it not worth the hassle.


I don't think it is all NYR or TOR fans, just certain ones in particular. This Rags21 is definitely one of those. I mean, "Henrique is barely an upgrade over Brodzinski". You can't even have a polite debate with such fans. Oh well.

I'm not even fussed about Kakko. Just thought he sounded like a Silf replacement. Doubt Henrique goes for anything less a 1st, but Kakko + 2nd seemed like an equivalent deal and I think NYR would benefit from Henrique. Nevermind. We'll see what unfolds.
11 févr. à 13 h 45
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What would you do instead? I mean, you need a replacement for Chytil, no? Or you don't think NYR has a chance at the cup and so don't want to invest in players for a serious cup run?


Don’t listen to this guy. He’s a Kakko fan boy and still thinks Kakko is anything more than a middle six forward.

Post looks good, deals look good. Well done
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11 févr. à 13 h 47
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Don’t listen to this guy. He’s a Kakko fan boy and still thinks Kakko is anything more than a middle six forward.

Post looks good, deals look good. Well done


Weird if Kakko sucks so bad and he’s truly a bust, wouldn’t you rather have a 1st for Rico? Damn all you Ducks fans aren’t that smart

And once again, learn how to operate a team. It’s pretty common sense
11 févr. à 14 h 24
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We need right wingers just as bad as we need 3Cs lol… you’re not getting kakko for a 3c rental…
11 févr. à 14 h 29
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Weird if Kakko sucks so bad and he’s truly a bust, wouldn’t you rather have a 1st for Rico? Damn all you Ducks fans aren’t that smart

And once again, learn how to operate a team. It’s pretty common sense


Because if we put a first, you’d have a temper tantrum on how “the RaNgeRs dOnT neEd HenRiqUe esPeciaLly aT tHat cOsT!” And it’s funny that you keep coming after Ducks fans considering that mostly no one on this site takes any credibility from anything Rangers fans say lol.
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Because if we put a first, you’d have a temper tantrum on how “the RaNgeRs dOnT neEd HenRiqUe esPeciaLly aT tHat cOsT!” And it’s funny that you keep coming after Ducks fans considering that mostly no one on this site takes any credibility from anything Rangers fans say lol.


I’m sure Henrique is definitely worth a 1st in this market now, but the ranger fans don’t want to pay it lol the 1st round pick should go to first line RW and not a 3C

That’s all there is to it…..Rangers need a RW1 and 3C and they’re better off spending the 1st on a top line guy
11 févr. à 15 h 25
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Lmao both brodzinski and Henrique both wouldn’t be playing in the top 6. The WHOLE point of this is why does Kakko have to be included in a trade for Henrique….. Playoff teams don’t trade roster players for a rental when they have picks readily available. Just accept the 1st round pick and move on

Damn I know you would run an undefeated team with the kind of moves like trading Kakko for an aging rental and signing Phil Kessel 😂😂😂😂


Calm down brah... No need to call ppl stupid or idiots. It's just a forum. Don't be one of "those" fans.

A 1st for Henrique works for me too. I'm really not that high on Kakko. Henrique just seemed a good fit and reports coming out of NYR camp is they don't want to move a 1st.

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Weird if Kakko sucks so bad and he’s truly a bust, wouldn’t you rather have a 1st for Rico? Damn all you Ducks fans aren’t that smart

And once again, learn how to operate a team. It’s pretty common sense


NYR 1st it is then! Deal!

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We need right wingers just as bad as we need 3Cs lol… you’re not getting kakko for a 3c rental…


Okay, not many options in that case. What's the plan then?
11 févr. à 15 h 36
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Calm down brah... No need to call ppl stupid or idiots. It's just a forum. Don't be one of "those" fans.

A 1st for Henrique works for me too. I'm really not that high on Kakko. Henrique just seemed a good fit and reports coming out of NYR camp is they don't want to move a 1st.



NYR 1st it is then! Deal!



Okay, not many options in that case. What's the plan then?


Yea because trading a 1st for a 3C who probably won’t play much or get powerplay time is a waste of a 1st. The Rangers first should be going for a top line RW

The whole point of this is you guys crapping on Kakko when no one is forcing y’all to take him and the rangers need him more, on top of the fact that playoff teams don’t trade away roster players

If the rangers have picks available, then that’s what they’ll trade. You don’t trade 3RW for 3C while losing a pick in the process
11 févr. à 15 h 37
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Calm down brah... No need to call ppl stupid or idiots. It's just a forum. Don't be one of "those" fans.

A 1st for Henrique works for me too. I'm really not that high on Kakko. Henrique just seemed a good fit and reports coming out of NYR camp is they don't want to move a 1st.

NYR 1st it is then! Deal!


Okay, not many options in that case. What's the plan then?


futures, drury prob wont shop a first and kakko definitely wont be shopped unless its something worth our time not an aging 3c in henrique lol. kakko + first would be the start for a zegras package if that were to happen.
11 févr. à 15 h 46
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Quoting: Rags21
I’m sure Henrique is definitely worth a 1st in this market now, but the ranger fans don’t want to pay it lol the 1st round pick should go to first line RW and not a 3C

That’s all there is to it…..Rangers need a RW1 and 3C and they’re better off spending the 1st on a top line guy


Why not just play Kakko at the RW1 since you think he’s the **** lmao
11 févr. à 15 h 57
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Why not just play Kakko at the RW1 since you think he’s the **** lmao


You act like I’m the damn coach lol. He’s the scapegoat for some reason while Lavi plays the corpse of Wheeler on the top line

Not kakko’s fault Mika and Kreider are god awful at 5v5
11 févr. à 16 h 33
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Yea because trading a 1st for a 3C who probably won’t play much or get powerplay time is a waste of a 1st. The Rangers first should be going for a top line RW

The whole point of this is you guys crapping on Kakko when no one is forcing y’all to take him and the rangers need him more, on top of the fact that playoff teams don’t trade away roster players

If the rangers have picks available, then that’s what they’ll trade. You don’t trade 3RW for 3C while losing a pick in the process


I mean CHI traded a 1st for Vermette, a 3C who didn't get any PP time and won the SC. Vermette played a pivotal role because of his FO and PK ability. In fact, ANA was in the running for Vermette, but lost out because we weren't willing to give up a 1st. We then lost to CHI in a very close WCF where Vermette played a pivotal role winning defensive zone faceoffs and shutting down our 2nd line. Not trying to convince you accept Henrique, I can see your mind is made up on that one. The point is that a 1st for a 3C has happened and they can be impact players who take your team over the edge.

I haven't crapped on him. Why you being so aggressive towards me and calling me an idiot. Just totally unnecessary. If you don't like the opinion of Duck fans, why come over to our threads. Just don't engage. Simple.

What deals do you have in mind for that top line RW? I assume there will be a significant add to the 1st to land a top line RW. Can't see anyone interested in giving up a top line RW where the main asset is a late, late 1st.

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futures, drury prob wont shop a first and kakko definitely wont be shopped unless its something worth our time not an aging 3c in henrique lol. kakko + first would be the start for a zegras package if that were to happen.


What's the game plan then? For fans, you don't seem very interested in seeing your team go for it and potentially win the cup. Even if it is a long shot everyone has a chance in the playoffs. Not really following what you want? Don't want to commit, but don't suck enough to get high picks. *Shrug*

Nah... Not even close. Zegras isn't available anyway. That was just some nonsense Seravalli said after the Drysdale trade for clicks. He's not in with the ANA crowd (Pierre LeBrun and Kevin Weekes are though). Even if Zegras was available, it would need to be a hockey trade and a 1-for-1, maybe with a small add.
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I mean CHI traded a 1st for Vermette, a 3C who didn't get any PP time and won the SC. Vermette played a pivotal role because of his FO and PK ability. In fact, ANA was in the running for Vermette, but lost out because we weren't willing to give up a 1st. We then lost to CHI in a very close WCF where Vermette played a pivotal role winning defensive zone faceoffs and shutting down our 2nd line. Not trying to convince you accept Henrique, I can see your mind is made up on that one. The point is that a 1st for a 3C has happened and they can be impact players who take your team over the edge.

I haven't crapped on him. Why you being so aggressive towards me and calling me an idiot. Just totally unnecessary. If you don't like the opinion of Duck fans, why come over to our threads. Just don't engage. Simple.

What deals do you have in mind for that top line RW? I assume there will be a significant add to the 1st to land a top line RW. Can't see anyone interested in giving up a top line RW where the main asset is a late, late 1st.



What's the game plan then? For fans, you don't seem very interested in seeing your team go for it and potentially win the cup. Even if it is a long shot everyone has a chance in the playoffs. Not really following what you want? Don't want to commit, but don't suck enough to get high picks. *Shrug*

Nah... Not even close. Zegras isn't available anyway. That was just some nonsense Seravalli said after the Drysdale trade for clicks. He's not in with the ANA crowd (Pierre LeBrun and Kevin Weekes are though). Even if Zegras was available, it would need to be a hockey trade and a 1-for-1, maybe with a small add.


Because multiple Duck fans claiming NYR fans are the worst to deal with when y’all aren’t making logical trades

I don’t know let me ask you this: if your team needs a top line RW and a 3C, which position would you give up the first round pick for? The RW who’s likely to play 18+ minutes or the 3C who’s likely to play 12+ minutes

I don’t have a specific player in mind, but it would be Eberle/Bjorkstrand, Tarasenko, or whoever
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Because multiple Duck fans claiming NYR fans are the worst to deal with when y’all aren’t making logical trades

I don’t know let me ask you this: if your team needs a top line RW and a 3C, which position would you give up the first round pick for? The RW who’s likely to play 18+ minutes or the 3C who’s likely to play 12+ minutes

I don’t have a specific player in mind, but it would be Eberle/Bjorkstrand, Tarasenko, or whoever


I didn't say that. We aren't some homogeneous entity. We are individuals. You are very aggressive and have made some silly statements. However, I don't tarnish every NYR fan with the same brush.

Well, I'd argue that Henrique is pretty versatile and will play more than 12 mins a night as he'll probably be on your PP or PK. You can also double shift him if necessary to get his TOI up if you are concerned about p/60. That said, yeah, I get your position about preferring a natural RW vs a C/LW. Not sure you'll be happy with Eberle, Tarasenko, etc. though, especially if you don't rate Henrique. I mean, Tarasenko and Henrique have similar numbers this year and Eberle has lower numbers and is kind of one dimensional. However, I respect your suggested targets and think they are a good choice for a 1st.
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I mean CHI traded a 1st for Vermette, a 3C who didn't get any PP time and won the SC. Vermette played a pivotal role because of his FO and PK ability. In fact, ANA was in the running for Vermette, but lost out because we weren't willing to give up a 1st. We then lost to CHI in a very close WCF where Vermette played a pivotal role winning defensive zone faceoffs and shutting down our 2nd line. Not trying to convince you accept Henrique, I can see your mind is made up on that one. The point is that a 1st for a 3C has happened and they can be impact players who take your team over the edge.

I haven't crapped on him. Why you being so aggressive towards me and calling me an idiot. Just totally unnecessary. If you don't like the opinion of Duck fans, why come over to our threads. Just don't engage. Simple.

What deals do you have in mind for that top line RW? I assume there will be a significant add to the 1st to land a top line RW. Can't see anyone interested in giving up a top line RW where the main asset is a late, late 1st.



What's the game plan then? For fans, you don't seem very interested in seeing your team go for it and potentially win the cup. Even if it is a long shot everyone has a chance in the playoffs. Not really following what you want? Don't want to commit, but don't suck enough to get high picks. *Shrug*

Nah... Not even close. Zegras isn't available anyway. That was just some nonsense Seravalli said after the Drysdale trade for clicks. He's not in with the ANA crowd (Pierre LeBrun and Kevin Weekes are though). Even if Zegras was available, it would need to be a hockey trade and a 1-for-1, maybe with a small add.


The game plan is to not sell an asset like kakko for an aging 3c rental to prolong our youth
 
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