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Depending on what Philly wants for the package, the Canes could take both Broberg and Kane and give up picks and prospects to make the deal work

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Canes at roster limit so every player in is a player out, and oilers are looking to upgrade now, not picks and prospects. Don’t see oilers and canes as trade partners.

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Depending on what Philly wants for the package, the Canes could take both Broberg and Kane and give up picks and prospects to make the deal work

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Philly isn't interested in Kane and why would Kane want to waive to Philly.

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Quoting: Caniac555

Canes at roster limit so every player in is a player out, and oilers are looking to upgrade now, not picks and prospects. Don’t see oilers and canes as trade partners.

at midnight of the start of the TD, there isn’t a roster limit anymore

Sure Philly would be sandwiched in this case to make it happen

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I would prefer to sign him to a 3 year deal, but if we have to move him I would do it for a 1st + a decent prospect. And I could see it being Edmonton with Staios' ties to the org and specifically Holland (I'm sure he knows Jackson as well).

Tarasenko would be a fantastic add to the Oilers 2nd line. He's still a 60ish point guy and probably goes up to a 70ish point guy with Draisaitl but he's been so much better defensively than I ever could have expected. I think as a rental for a late 1st, he's a steal.

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I feel like this is a bad trade for the sharks. I think Blackwood and duclair hold a value of a 2nd combined together and that trade doesnt really even hold the value to dump Cecil and Campbell. and i think we need to move defenders before taking them back because we already have the worst log jam in the league.

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You spending a lot of assets just to not improve the team. Offensively your roster is better than the current one, but the defense and goaltending are worse.

The only trade idea I can support here is the first one, but even then we already know that Holland won't spend a 1st on a rental, it'll be the "2nd+prospect" equivalent. And then the 5th will go to a third team to retain another 50%.

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That is after the TDL, which is at mid day that day. You must have a compliant roster to complete this trade prior. Who goes on waivers? It’s just not a likely scenario considering the two teams are looking to do similar things.

Quoting: ecupirate07

at midnight of the start of the TD, there isn’t a roster limit anymore

Sure Philly would be sandwiched in this case to make it happen

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Quoting: Caniac555

No matter the time constraints, canes have an easy time getting compliant:

1. Raanta on IR if hurt (when is he not)
2. If raanta is healthy, Kooch is waiver exempt
3. Jarvis is waivers exempt
4. TDA can easily go on waivers. The likelihood that someone claims him but not being able to trade him is low.

Canes don’t have a game on the 8th so moves are not consequential

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All good points, but I still don’t see the Oilers and Canes as trade fits. Why would the oilers trade the Canes these players if the return is only futures?

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Quoting: Caniac555

All good points, but I still don’t see the Oilers and Canes as trade fits. Why would the oilers trade the Canes these players if the return is only futures?

I think you’re missing the part where Carolina would insert itself in the Philly trade. Philly wants prospects and picks.

Canes get Broberg and Kane
Philly gets Edmonton’s 2nd plus prospect and another pick from us (presumably a first)
Edmonton gets laughton and walker

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I think it’s foolish to think the canes would trade for a forward with term. The only place on their roster where they’d take a player with term is on Defense.

Unless you think they are moving a forward with term in the offseason, or offloading a RFA like Jarvis or Necas.

At 87.7m next year, someone is getting squeezed out even without bringing in more money on the books for next year.

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Yea zero chance Philly does this, the team is in a rebuild. We are looking for picks and prospects. The rumors that you bring up also mention that the Flyers are holding out for 1st round value each for Walker and Laughton. I'd be very surprised if they trade both Laughton and Walker and there isn't a 2024 1st as a part of the deal.

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Quoting: BleedOrange23

That is why Philly is receiving a second, pretty good prospect, and a good offensive player to either keep and deal with in the offseason or flip during the deadline.

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Quoting: CD282

2 things. 1 Please read the last comment as I addressed the likelyhood of this many moves already. 2 if you think the goaltending gets worse in this scenario you don’t know puck. The only changes are Ceci -> Walker who has been have a good underlying season while Ceci has been an anchor for our top pair, and the other being Pickard -> Blackwood the only reason I can see why you’d think Pickard is better is his current save percentage but you have to remember he’s playing on a team that just won their last 16 in a sheltered roll, most tenders would have good looking stats in this scenario.

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Quoting: FullSend

More so looking at all rumours and what could look likely (to an extent). I did go into the armchair and swap Laughton to centre and Ryan on the wing and can agree looks much better.

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I can agree Janmark is nice for the PK but with the amount of talent this team has and could potentially add upfront makes me think we’d be fine moving on from janmark.

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Quoting: RyanMclovin

Do you know how save percentage works? Goalies on team that limit shots DON'T have an advantage.

And Blackwood has been bad for several seasons, and he's more money than Pickard. It's such a silly move.

Walker has great underlying numbers, but Ceci plays harder minutes, he has more D zone faceoffs and far fewer OTF shifts. Also Walker is undersized (not a Holland type) with no history of playoff success. He's a 3rd pairing guy having a good season.

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