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Habs need another 23yrs 200ft game player for their rebuild

Créé par: habitantlecolon
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 7 févr. 2024
Publié: 7 févr. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
The player needs to be at least 6f02 and able to win battles along the board and be a competitive 2way player.

The proposal is just a basis so we can open talk about who can be that player.
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MTL
  1. Knies, Matthew
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I'm using Knies because we need a trade partner, he is not my prime target, but I want to know who can be a target for Habs.
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  1. Farrell, Sean
  2. Heineman, Emil
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (WPG)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
here is the basic offer for such
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7 févr. à 13 h 35
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Can I interest you in a slightly-used, oft-uninspired PL Dubois?
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Can I interest you in a slightly-used, oft-uninspired PL Dubois?


too old
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too old


For an extra 3rd round pick, we'll fudge a birth certificate for you that says he's 21.
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For an extra 3rd round pick, we'll fudge a birth certificate for you that says he's 21.


no thx
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Sadly, mon ami, the Leafs are also in need of that and will, therefore, can't have one more guy available for trade... same thing with Matthews


However, would you be interested in a smaller '200ft' player?
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Sadly, mon ami, the Leafs are also in need of that and will, therefore, can't have one more guy available for trade... same thing with Matthews


However, would you be interested in a smaller '200ft' player?


reread the post plz
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Why would the Leafs trade a good young NHLer on his ELC for 2 guys I've never heard of and 2 draft picks (which aren't useful in win-now mode)?
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Why would the Leafs trade a good young NHLer on his ELC for 2 guys I've never heard of and 2 draft picks (which aren't useful in win-now mode)?


it's a basis, not a proposal ... guys it's for the sake of finding such kind of player ... am I not writing it in proper English??
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The Flames will trade your Pospisil. 6'2, wins board battles, gets under other players skin, averaging the same as Knies ppg, only box he doesn't check is he's 24.
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it's a basis, not a proposal ... guys it's for the sake of finding such kind of player ... am I not writing it in proper English??


sadly u gotta tag the teams that are active in here, ducks and leafs and maybe devils fans, add the teams to trade with and more ppl will come
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it's a basis, not a proposal ... guys it's for the sake of finding such kind of player ... am I not writing it in proper English??


No you're writing it correctly, I misread it, my bad
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Heineman might actually be that guy. I wouldn't be too quick to write him off.

Samuel Poulin would be nice addition if we could pry him out of PIT. Hard to tell what direction Dubas will take.
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No you're writing it correctly, I misread it, my bad


do you want me to build an offer for Knies that could look relevant to your Playoffs run?
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Boldy would be one of the guys I'd be trying to get. Necas and Lundell are also some targets, just prefer Boldy much more than Zegras.
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Boldy would be one of the guys I'd be trying to get. Necas and Lundell are also some targets, just prefer Boldy much more than Zegras.


not sure that his team would part way with him tho
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not sure that his team would part way with him tho


if they miss the playoffs and we offer lets say, if the top 3 forwards are gone (Celebrini, Demidov and Lindstrom and maybe Eiserman), we could send our pick and add more to get him imo
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They don't fit your criteria, but I'd rather go after Dawson Mercer in NJD or Kent Johnson in CBJ. (they could realistically be available)

Knies will be a good player, no doubt. But his offensive upside was overhyped imo. If we are comparing him to past big winger Leafs, I think he'll be closer to a Mikheyev than a Hyman.
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They don't fit your criteria, but I'd rather go after Dawson Mercer in NJD or Kent Johnson in CBJ. (they could realistically be available)

Knies will be a good player, no doubt. But his offensive upside was overhyped imo. If we are comparing him to past big winger Leafs, I think he'll be closer to a Mikheyev than a Hyman.


Mercer is not available hope this helps
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do you want me to build an offer for Knies that could look relevant to your Playoffs run?


Personally, I don't think the Leafs will trade Knies. The reasons for that are that Knies has played minutes in the top 6 at times this season, he's under team control for the foreseeable future (he's a pending RFA after next season) and he's cheap, which is important since the Leafs are right up against the cap. You're welcome to make a ACGM for Knies if you want, but I just don't think it would be realistic. Let me know if you think I'm missing something here.
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Mercer is not available hope this helps


Never said he was. but that he could realistically be available. Heck, I think it was with you even a while back where we discussed that Mercer could be traded if the right trade came about.
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Never said he was. but that he could realistically be available. Heck, I think it was with you even a while back where we discussed that Mercer could be traded if the right trade came about.


The only piece he could be realistically be made available for is a young, elite, cost controlled goalie. The only teams with one of those are Boston and Dallas.

Theres just no package the habs could make, unless they want to go Guhle+++, but even then I’d rather keep Mercer
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The only piece he could be realistically be made available for is a young, elite, cost controlled goalie. The only teams with one of those are Boston and Dallas.

Theres just no package the habs could make, unless they want to go Guhle+++, but even then I’d rather keep Mercer


the "+++" is very debatable, and from my end I'd rather keep Guhle (and he's definitely not available). But from a positional point of view, and without having to argue about value, a deal centered around those two is at the very least "realistic".
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the "+++" is very debatable, and from my end I'd rather keep Guhle (and he's definitely not available). But from a positional point of view, and without having to argue about value, a deal centered around those two is at the very least "realistic".


It would have to be+++ Mercer has simply been a much more effective hockey player.

Again, since as you’ve said you wouldn’t be willing to add significantly to get Mercer, you do not have the facilities to get Mercer. Or at least are not willing to use them. Simple as that
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It would have to be+++ Mercer has simply been a much more effective hockey player.

Again, since as you’ve said you wouldn’t be willing to add significantly to get Mercer, you do not have the facilities to get Mercer. Or at least are not willing to use them. Simple as that


Never said that either... just that it would be debatable. It's hard to have a decent discussion when you make up your own arguments.

lot of factors would need to come into play. Who's calling for who (it makes a difference if it's MTL calling for Mercer vs if NJD is calling for Guhle)? Are other key assets in play (is someone trying to move up or down in the draft perhaps)? Does it happen at the draft, or after free agency (where perhaps NJD spend on an elite player...let's say Stamkos, and are now against the cap)? Lots of those things would have an impact on this hypothetical deal.
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Never said that either... just that it would be debatable. It's hard a decent discussion when you make up your own arguments.

lot of factors would need to come into play. Who's calling for who (it makes a difference if it's MTL calling for Mercer vs if NJD is calling for Guhle)? Are other key assets in play (is someone trying to move up or down in the draft perhaps)? Does it happen at the draft, or after free agency (where perhaps NJD spend on an elite player...let's say Stamkos, and are now against the cap)? Lots of those things would have an impact on this hypothetical deal.


NJD isn’t calling anyone with Mercer on the table. Wasn’t on the table for Meier.

And you have very clearly outlined that it would be MTL calling about Mercer.

If the devils want to save money they’ll sign him to a bridge, not trade Mercer.

Again, if you want to offer Guhle+++, let me know. If not, he’s not available
 
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