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Forum: NHL Signings15 avr. à 13 h 52
Sujet: Anaheim Ducks signed Cutter Gauthier (3 Years / $1,900,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kckrebs</b></div><div>Yes 32 teams need organization so they can display the product in front of their FANS. The better the team is the more support they inevitably get from FANS. This marketing you're speaking of, is it towards the fans? Interesting. TV deals and adverts? Who watches those? Hmm, is it maybe the fans? Did you know the NHL is a gate revenue driven league? Meaning if people didn't actually show up to the games the league would be in serious trouble. Again very reliant on fans. And yes of course money is more important to them, it is a business after all. But who brings them the money? Maybe, fans?

You know, you gave me a good idea though. I'm gonna video my next beer league game, post it to Youtube and gather all that juicy ad revenue. Eventually probably sign a TV deal and really start rolling it in..</div></div>

Believe it or not, I've done this before and gotten paid for it (minus the TV deal and ad revenue). The playlists are unlisted (only viewable by the link) though
Forum: NHL Signings15 avr. à 13 h 5
Sujet: Anaheim Ducks signed Cutter Gauthier (3 Years / $1,900,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>if you actually new anything about the NHL you'd know what a beer league it was in 1963.
Bobby Orr was making 50k a year by the end of the 60s. Players not as good as him far less. The average salary was around 10k. for an average citizen.
That would be like McDavid earning 250k
Lets not pretend it wasn't a beer league. It got organized to make money.
Your post would have more credibility if it had any actual point to make.</div></div>

1. I’m not going to claim I know everything about the NHL, but most evidence points to the NHL not being as much of a beer league as you claim. There are many trophies named after NHL employees of that era and before that, several HHOF inductees, and lots of members of the NHL’s 100 Greatest Players list in 2017.

2. You’re forgetting about the costs of inflation. 10k today is nowhere near what it was in 1963, it wouldn’t even be close to 10k in the 70s when the dollar was taken off the gold standard.

3. If your definition of a beer league is “organized to make money”, that makes the vast majority of all organizations, especially in sports, “beer leagues”.
Forum: NHL Signings15 avr. à 8 h 46
Sujet: Anaheim Ducks signed Cutter Gauthier (3 Years / $1,900,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>they have a draft because the 32 teams need organization for how talent comes into the league....not for the fans.
Even when the fan base hasn't been there, and the league was damn near a beer league, they still had a draft.
So no everything isn't done for the fans. But they sure got you in marketing to get you to think that.
Fact is they careless about the fans and more about TV deals and advertisement money than they ever will the fans. It's why they bend over backwards to appease those crowds in ways they will never for the fan base.
Let me tell you a little something I learned from growing up in Cleveland watching the browns move out of town..... F the over attachment to a team. They don't give a $#!t about the fans. You just haven't figured it out yet. Money is way more important than the fans. They aren't in this business for fans, they are in it to get paid.
So don't blame the kid for doing what he thinks is in HIS best interest. Believe me, every time an NHL team leaves a city, they don't give a crap about the fan base. Go ask AZ fans.</div></div>

1. The NHL has existed since 1917, while the NHL Draft has only existed since 1963.
2. Your point would have so much more credibility if you didn’t have 1400 posts in just 2 months
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs11 avr. à 20 h 3
Sujet: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>Pride Nights, Canadian hockey fans, the handling of the presence of racism at various levels within the NHL.

These things are all encompassing and really very easy to address but instead we have players leading the charge on these issues where the league should be the one taking the charge, especially if NHL HQ really believes that the league and sport is globally for everyone.</div></div>

If “Hockey Is For Everyone” is truly the goal as you claim, I would agree with you. Multiple guys (and teams) respectfully declined to participate in “Pride Night”, and by letting them get lambasted by the media, Bettman and Co in NHL HQ proved that they did not want hockey to be for everyone
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs11 avr. à 11 h 1
Sujet: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>I can remember the WHA and the great support the Nordiques had in Quebec in both the WHA and NHL back in the 70s and 80s.. Quebec and area has a small population and not a great amount of businesses. I question if the a Quebec could constantly draw 14,000 paying fans at current NHL ticket prices. Hamilton? When the NHL expanded, and Ottawa and Tampa were accepted, Hamilton had the chance to enter. But there was NO owner for the Hamilton franchise. Hard to have a franchise when no one was willing to put 100m (or whatever it was) to be an NHL owner.

Too many of the awarded franchises, have been to owners who have based their ownership on a house of cards real estate, arena,. Lots of so called NHL owners, haven't had much interest in the NHL team but were trying to get their money from the other means surrounding the arena. I really don't see all the love for Salt Lake City. The population greater SSC is 500,000 and the population Utah is 3.3m. Sure they have an arena, but do they have revenue to substain an NHL franchise, year after year?</div></div>

Admittedly, I don't have as much experience as you do. However, "Don Cherry's Hockey Greats &amp; More" says otherwise. He goes through the whole situation of what happened in the '92 expansion on pages 59 and 60, and I would go into more detail here but I'm not sure how much I can share without violating copyright. In addition, didn't Jim Balsille make a bunch of different attempts to bring an NHL team to Hamilton?
Forum: Toronto Maple Leafs11 avr. à 9 h 53
Sujet: Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 6 - Nearly Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>oneX</b></div><div>I realize that, it's just too bad these owners don't have long-term vision for success regarding franchises because if they did, they would make more money via fees, gate and TV revenue, nevermind the merchandise sales. It requires patience and vetting potential owners properly as opposed to what Bettman and company have done.

There's not just expansion failures. This commissioner can't even get inclusivity right which BTW would help bring in more revenue but hey, let's alienate groups of people based on how business has been conducted in the past.

A big eff you to that Arizona franchise.</div></div>

By alienating groups of people, are you referring to Canadian hockey fans? I know a team in Hamilton or Quebec City would bring in a lot more revenue than Arizona and maybe other existing teams. As for "inclusivity", it depends on what you mean. If you're referring to the "Pride Nights", remember that they were a disaster last season and Provorov jerseys sold out after he stood up against it.
Forum: NHL11 avr. à 8 h 57