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Jiricek

Créé par: gaz
Équipe: 2024-25 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 29 janv. 2024
Publié: 29 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Jiricek has maturely shed light on some of his frustrations in Columbus and if they continue to a point where he asks for a trade, could a trade with CAR be viable? Columbus' biggest need is at the C position so building a return package around KK who has long-term with his contract is what I'd propose, to serve as the 2C behind Fantilli. The addition of Morrow would give CBJ an exciting prospect who'd likely need a year of time in the AHL before making the jump to the NHL and a late first rounder to cap the return. I'd also be open to the idea of building a trade package around Necas for Jiricek however the subsidiary pieces around Necas would be much lower in value than what's proposed in the KK trade below.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
87 500 000 $
47 250 000 $
22 500 000 $
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33 000 000 $
56 750 000 $
22 000 000 $
35 000 000 $
22 000 000 $
1800 000 $
11 200 000 $
Transactions
CAR
  1. Jiricek, David
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)
Détails additionnels:
At the 2024 Draft if Jiricek's frustrations continue to a point where he asks for a trade out of CBus at the end of the year.
CBJ
  1. Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
  2. Morrow, Scott [Liste de réserve]
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (CAR)
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Formation

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UFA - 5
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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UFA
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA
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2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C
RFA
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
AD
RFA
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
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NMC
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7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
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UFA - 2
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795 000 $795 000 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
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2 400 000 $2 400 000 $
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UFA - 1
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5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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5 280 000 $5 280 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
G
UFA - 3
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6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
DG
UFA
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918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance1 000 000 $$1M)
DD
RFA - 2
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
G
UFA
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
7 750 000 $7 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
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Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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800 000 $800 000 $
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29 janv. à 12 h 17
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Ok details of at the draft changes my response
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29 janv. à 12 h 25
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Columbus' biggest need is not center, it's goalie. They have their core Centers of the future in Fantilli, Sillinger, Johnson, and Voronkov that can play up and down the lineup an on each other's wings. A transitional #1 center like Lindholm might be their answer, but I would think they would rather upgrade in net.
29 janv. à 12 h 29
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Quoting: ecupirate07
wut?

if we werent a contender, sure KK could be in the deal for a flip but we are trying to contend.


I'd argue this proposed team will be just as likely to win a cup in 24-25 as they are this year in 23-24. Jiricek only adds to the "contender" status not just in this year but in the long term future of the team as well and the emergence of Drury as a budding 2C with offensive production while still being defensively responsible has made KK an expendable asset when Ponomarev or a veteran center on a cheaper 1-year deal could play effectively the same role that KK is playing right now. KK is not a bad player by any means, he's just played his way down the lineup while other guys have increased their own stock.
29 janv. à 12 h 34
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Quoting: ChucktheFNG
Columbus' biggest need is not center, it's goalie. They have their core Centers of the future in Fantilli, Sillinger, Johnson, and Voronkov that can play up and down the lineup an on each other's wings. A transitional #1 center like Lindholm might be their answer, but I would think they would rather upgrade in net.


Fantilli is the 1C of the future for sure, but I don't think the front office envisions Johnson playing C in the NHL. Voronkov has been a nice addition and has continued to get better over the course of the year so maybe he could be the future 2C, In the description I also mentioned building a trade package around Necas instead of KK so maybe that'd be a better fit if Voronkov does solidify himself over the remainder of the season as the 2C. I don't see any team eating Elvis' contract so you may be stuck with him in net and his cap hit unless they buy him out.
29 janv. à 13 h 5
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Fantilli is the 1C of the future for sure, but I don't think the front office envisions Johnson playing C in the NHL. Voronkov has been a nice addition and has continued to get better over the course of the year so maybe he could be the future 2C, In the description I also mentioned building a trade package around Necas instead of KK so maybe that'd be a better fit if Voronkov does solidify himself over the remainder of the season as the 2C. I don't see any team eating Elvis' contract so you may be stuck with him in net and his cap hit unless they buy him out.


Johnson's shown he's more than capable to do both wing and center this year and with the way the refs have been throwing guys off the faceoff dot, you essentially need 2 capable centers on each line. He'll probably draw in on the wing, but I think he's going to take his fair share of faceoffs every night. Fantilli needs to be given the #1 spot for the rest of the year. He's shown he's able to do it and has gelled pretty well with Gaudreau, Jenner, and Laine. Sillinger and Voronkov both have looked really good as the #2 center.

As for trading Necas, I like the player, but I don't like the situation. The Jackets need to move 4 or 5 forwards before they think about adding another winger.

I'm one of the few people who believes Elvis is more a victim of a terrible defensive gameplan (see every third period played this year) and a revolving door of defensemen going on IR than him just being a bad goalie. I will say the future looks pretty good with Jet Greaves killing it in the AHL and Sergei Ivanov putting up impressive numbers on a bad team in the KHL as a 19 year old so maybe the Jackets bite the bullet and hold onto Elvis until either guy comes in and challenges him for the #1 spot.
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29 janv. à 14 h 17
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Quoting: ChucktheFNG
Columbus' biggest need is not center, it's goalie. They have their core Centers of the future in Fantilli, Sillinger, Johnson, and Voronkov that can play up and down the lineup an on each other's wings. A transitional #1 center like Lindholm might be their answer, but I would think they would rather upgrade in net.


Columbus' biggest need is just high-end skill. Jiricek has that potential at a really valuable position of dire need for the team now and going forward. It doesn't make sense to trade him for a package of picks/prospects when he's still a prospect right now. Core centers are definitely Silly, Fantilli, and Voronkov...anyone beyond that is stopgap, an upgrade, or a 4C.

Quoting: ChucktheFNG
I'm one of the few people who believes Elvis is more a victim of a terrible defensive gameplan (see every third period played this year) and a revolving door of defensemen going on IR than him just being a bad goalie. I will say the future looks pretty good with Jet Greaves killing it in the AHL and Sergei Ivanov putting up impressive numbers on a bad team in the KHL as a 19 year old so maybe the Jackets bite the bullet and hold onto Elvis until either guy comes in and challenges him for the #1 spot.


I'm with you on this one, and also this is why I'd argue goalie isn't the biggest need.
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29 janv. à 14 h 59
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Center is not the biggest need anymore. Columbus has nothing in the pipline behind Jiricek at RHD besides a project prospect whose ceiling is third pair in Ceulemans. Jiricek has more value to them at any point than a 2C who's never put it together and a late first might. Plus you're in-division? No.
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29 janv. à 20 h 49
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For some reason I thought Jiricek was left handed.....I'm a dummy. In this case I am willing to be open minded to a bigger offer. Something that included Necas, Morrow, Jackson Blake and picks.
29 janv. à 20 h 52
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As for the contracts at the top:
Jarvis deal is solid
Necas deal aint happening
Drury deal is solid (he may want more if he continues his trend)
Chatfield deal I would love
Skjei deal aint happening
Martinook is prob 500k high
Turbo is 1 mil high
Noesen deal is good
No interest in the last two of Lemieux and Stolarz
29 janv. à 21 h 0
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Quoting: gaz
I'd argue this proposed team will be just as likely to win a cup in 24-25 as they are this year in 23-24. Jiricek only adds to the "contender" status not just in this year but in the long term future of the team as well and the emergence of Drury as a budding 2C with offensive production while still being defensively responsible has made KK an expendable asset when Ponomarev or a veteran center on a cheaper 1-year deal could play effectively the same role that KK is playing right now. KK is not a bad player by any means, he's just played his way down the lineup while other guys have increased their own stock.


If you try Jack Drury as your 2C things are gonna get ugly.
30 janv. à 6 h 51
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If you try Jack Drury as your 2C things are gonna get ugly.


He's playing 2C right now and has been for a while now.
30 janv. à 6 h 52
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Quoting: Moosetache
For some reason I thought Jiricek was left handed.....I'm a dummy. In this case I am willing to be open minded to a bigger offer. Something that included Necas, Morrow, Jackson Blake and picks.


Lol. Good one.
If Necas wants to play center and wants to go somewhere that will play him there, maybe an offseason move. But there aren’t any ands with that
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30 janv. à 6 h 55
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Quoting: Moosetache
As for the contracts at the top:
Jarvis deal is solid
Necas deal aint happening
Drury deal is solid (he may want more if he continues his trend)
Chatfield deal I would love
Skjei deal aint happening
Martinook is prob 500k high
Turbo is 1 mil high
Noesen deal is good
No interest in the last two of Lemieux and Stolarz


I'd agree with most things you stated, as for Lemieux and Stolarz, I looked at those more as replaceable positions/dollar amounts so you could interchange another player or goalie for the same usage. What contract values and term do you think Skjei and Necas end up with (even if not from the Canes)?
30 janv. à 6 h 56
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He's playing 2C right now and has been for a while now.


He has been getting 2C minutes since necas came back. Kk was still the higher 5v5 guy until then.
30 janv. à 10 h 49
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Quoting: ecupirate07
Lol. Good one.
If Necas wants to play center and wants to go somewhere that will play him there, maybe an offseason move. But there aren’t any ands with that


ok, sorry, I wasnt clear. I didnt mean all of those players together in a deal. just on the table.
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30 janv. à 11 h 58
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Quoting: gaz
He's playing 2C right now and has been for a while now.


He’s been playing 11 minutes a night against the easiest competition in the league. His strength of competition is in the 1st%ile. Meaning 99% of forwards play against harder comp than him
30 janv. à 19 h 33
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He’s been playing 11 minutes a night against the easiest competition in the league. His strength of competition is in the 1st%ile. Meaning 99% of forwards play against harder comp than him


its not his fault the other team stinks
 
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