On what planet is Kulak worth a 2nd?

Not interested in helping our biggest rival for multiple years

Yeah I don't think Rasmus Andersson is available. 🙄

The habs are probably going to sucker some team into giving them a 2nd for Allen.

Even if the Sabres wanted to sell high on luukkonen, it’s gotta be a notch higher than back up goalie at higher than desired cap hit.

Do the Ceci trade, not UPL

Sabres are NOT trading UPL for picks
Sorry, but that’s just STUPID
How does that actually help US ffs??

No interest in Ceci either

That Flames trade is wild!! God no!

I mean why wouldn’t he be? Him and desharneis are currently the best 3rd pairing in the league

Read that back to yourself until you realize

Can I ask a serious question, why wouldn't you take Ceci.

AZ (or anybody) is not giving close to a 2nd for 30yo bottom pair @ 2.75m for 2+ more years - only D on the team w minus +/- and doesnt score and lowest icetime D.

I mean, he was literally traded for 2nd + 7th + Lagesson not two years ago. What planet are you on??

on this planet! Oilers paid a 2nd to get him

I can understand swapping Ceci for Andersson. But why trade Janmark and Kulak? Those moves weaken the roster. I'd drop Mangiapane from the CGY trade (and some of the pieces going the other way). UPL is a non-factor - I think between Pickard and Rodrigue the Oilers are pretty set for backup.

just because you paid a 2nd+ couple years ago has no bearing on his value now. at 30yo he prolly isnt going to suddenly improve into a decent middle pair or such

You mean when his cap hit was 900k on an expiring contract and your notoriously low quality GM was under pressure to win?

Now he's 30, has two more years left after this at 2.75M, and is still a run of the mill 3rd pair defenseman?

Just because you guys lost a trade doesn't mean you can trick anyone else into making your mistakes now.

LOL, that low quality GM built the best team in the league right now. And he's not trading Kulak - he's been amazing since the coaching change and was very good in the playoffs last year. He's not getting moved in-season.

That "best team in the league right now" is third in their division because they were a bottom 10 team in the league until a month ago, and we all know Holland didn't add the two main reasons why they're any good in the first place.

While the Andersson trade is fair flames wouldn't consider it due to the fact he has term left and is a very good defenceman, flames don't want to be helping the Oilers long term, a lindholm and or Tanev trade is reasonable because they both expire and Oilers most likely wouldn't extend either of them

A month ago?

True. He’s worth more than a 2nd.

https://x.com/arhockeystats/status/1546870521341558787?s=46&t=yfLVGKltuETiNx3fwsoX0Q

I can’t believe an Oilers fan wants Mangiapane and Ratmus. Both extremely overrated players.

And the past is supposed to matter when we’re talking about now and behind?