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Créé par: GuentzelvaniaUSA
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 24 janv. 2024
Publié: 24 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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PIT
  1. Höglander, Nils
  2. Kuzmenko, Andrei
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (VAN)
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  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
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24 janv. à 7 h 27
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PDG over PDO
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Canucks pass too rich for our blood
24 janv. à 7 h 32
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You think Guentzel was Crosby with these trade offers. His value is a first and a prospect. Something like Podkolzin. Since Kuzmenko needs to be part of the deal, maybe there’s a mid round pick involved
24 janv. à 7 h 44
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You think Guentzel was Crosby with these trade offers. His value is a first and a prospect. Something like Podkolzin. Since Kuzmenko needs to be part of the deal, maybe there’s a mid round pick involved


Guentzel has more xgoals than Crosby and the same amount if points. Name a better player that has moved at the deadline in 10 years.

He is worth significantly more than a low 1st and a B/B+ prospect.
24 janv. à 9 h 6
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Guentzel has more xgoals than Crosby and the same amount if points. Name a better player that has moved at the deadline in 10 years.

He is worth significantly more than a low 1st and a B/B+ prospect.


You could be right.But were not paying it.Waste of assets.IMHO.
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24 janv. à 9 h 22
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Penguins will say “no thanks.”
24 janv. à 9 h 35
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Guentzel has more xgoals than Crosby and the same amount if points. Name a better player that has moved at the deadline in 10 years.

He is worth significantly more than a low 1st and a B/B+ prospect.


Martin St. Louis from Tampa on an expiring contract
24 janv. à 12 h 46
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Guess your handle says it all. Perhaps you should have used "dreamingo****uentzeltradetothecanucks" which would have been only slightly more obvious. Keep dreamin, things dont look good for the Pens and the value of your players will keep going down. Its not 2019 anymore.
24 janv. à 13 h 3
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You could be right.But were not paying it.Waste of assets.IMHO.


Totally fair. I won't argue opinion as yours is just as valid as mine.
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24 janv. à 13 h 29
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Martin St. Louis from Tampa on an expiring contract


Great comparison. Let's look at their stats:
All stats averaged over a 3 year span. I kept Guentzel on a linear track for this season and I assumed a linear track for Marty in the shortened 2013 season.

Player A:
Xgoals: 41.1
Goals: 37.7
Points: 81.7
Corsi: 60%
Shooting Talent Above Average: 18.0%

Player B:
Xgoals: 23.3
Goals: 28.0
Points: 81.7
Corsi: 53.3%
Shooting Talent Above Average: 4.5%

Now player B has slightly better defensive stats and player A has slightly better physical stats.

Player A is clearly superior in shooting, scoring, and controlling play while also having the same (weird) number of points. A is Guentzel.

That is a fine comparison but St. Louis comes up a bit short (no pun intended).

St. Louis and a 2nd went for a 28yo Ryan Callahan (56 Goals and 110 Points in his last 166 games and was a gritty glue guy), and 2 1sts.

That is more than a low 1st and a B prospect. I would ask for much more as Guentzel is clearly the better player.
24 janv. à 13 h 34
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Quoting: Dickie_Dunn
Guess your handle says it all. Perhaps you should have used "dreamingo****uentzeltradetothecanucks" which would have been only slightly more obvious. Keep dreamin, things dont look good for the Pens and the value of your players will keep going down. Its not 2019 anymore.


How will the value of Guentzel go down? He is on pace for his best season yet. Crosby isn't slowing down.

Resign Guentzel to 9MM per for 8 years. When Crosby hangs them up in 2-4 years, trade Guentzel (eating half of his salary) and get a good return.

You're telling me someone won't trade a ton for a former 40 goal scorer who is likely still scoring 25+ who is 33 and paid 4.5MM when the cap is 95+MM?
 
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