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Guentzel trades

Créé par: mariohughes5
Équipe: 2023-24 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 20 janv. 2024
Publié: 20 janv. 2024
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
1.
2.
PIT
  1. Duchene, Matt
  2. Stankoven, Logan
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (DAL)
DAL
    Guentzel
    3.
    PIT
    1. Bennett, Sam
    2. Lundell, Anton
    3. Samoskevich, Mackie
    4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (FLA)
    FLA
      Guentzel
      4.
      PIT
      1. Kaprizov, Kirill
      2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (MIN)
      MIN
      1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2025 (PIT)
      Détails additionnels:
      Guentzel
      5.
      OTT
      1. Graves, Ryan
      Détails additionnels:
      Guentzel
      6.
      PIT
      1. McCann, Jared
      2. Wright, Shane
      3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (SEA)
      SEA
      1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (PIT)
      Détails additionnels:
      Guentzel
      7.
      PIT
      1. Höglander, Nils
      2. Kuzmenko, Andrei
      3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VAN)
      VAN
        Guentzel
        Rachats de contrats
        Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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        1983 500 000 $99 031 842 $0 $932 500 $-15 531 842 $
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        863 333 $863 333 $
        C, AG
        RFA - 1
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        8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
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        UFA - 2
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        5 125 000 $5 125 000 $
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        6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
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        UFA - 3
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        775 000 $775 000 $
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        UFA - 1
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        5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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        UFA - 2
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        2 450 000 $2 450 000 $
        C
        UFA - 2
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        5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
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        UFA - 5
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        UFA - 2
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        2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
        C, AD
        M-NTC
        UFA - 3
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        3 125 000 $3 125 000 $
        AD, C
        NMC
        UFA - 1
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        4 025 175 $4 025 175 $
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        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
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        10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
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        NMC
        UFA - 4
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        5 375 000 $5 375 000 $
        G
        M-NTC
        UFA - 5
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        6 100 000 $6 100 000 $
        DD
        NMC
        UFA - 5
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        1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
        G
        UFA - 1
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        775 000 $775 000 $
        DG/DD
        RFA - 1
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        800 000 $800 000 $
        DD
        UFA - 1
        Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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        775 000 $775 000 $
        DG
        RFA - 2
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        3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
        AD, C
        UFA - 1
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        4 425 000 $4 425 000 $
        C
        UFA - 2
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        814 167 $814 167 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
        C, AD
        RFA - 3
        Logo de Panthers de la Floride
        925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
        C, AG
        RFA - 1
        Logo de Blue Jackets de Columbus
        8 700 000 $8 700 000 $
        C, AD, AG
        M-NTC
        UFA - 3
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        925 000 $925 000 $
        AD
        RFA - 2
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        925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
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        RFA - 1
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        AG
        UFA - 3
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        2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
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        NTC
        UFA - 1
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        5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
        C, AG
        M-NTC
        UFA - 4
        Logo de Sénateurs d'Ottawa
        4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
        DG/DD
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
        Logo de Kraken de Seattle
        918 333 $918 333 $ (Bonis de performance3 062 500 $$3M)
        C
        RFA - 3
        Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
        5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
        AG, AD
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
        Logo de Canucks de Vancouver
        1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
        AG, AD
        RFA - 2

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        20 janv. à 20 h 19
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        Banni
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        On behalf of sane Pens fans, I truly apologize.
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        20 janv. à 20 h 20
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        None of these are realistic bc teams aren’t buying or you are asking way too much for a complementary player. Either way they won’t sell him and if they do it’s nothing this big
        20 janv. à 20 h 20
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        Yeah these are all way too much for a rental Guentzel
        20 janv. à 20 h 21
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        Think it's safe to say Minnesota blocks your number
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        20 janv. à 20 h 24
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        Quoting: Caerii
        Think it's safe to say Minnesota blocks your number


        Just absurd trades.
        20 janv. à 20 h 38
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        The penguins aren't trading guentzel.
        20 janv. à 21 h 11
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        You realize that's Alex not Willy Nylander right ? Just saying.
        Not one of these offers get accepted by other team GM' most ask Dubas if he's suffered some cognitive illness?
        20 janv. à 21 h 38
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        Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
        On behalf of sane Pens fans, I truly apologize.


        Quoting: SK101
        Yeah these are all way too much for a rental Guentzel


        Quoting: Justafan79
        You realize that's Alex not Willy Nylander right ? Just saying.
        Not one of these offers get accepted by other team GM' most ask Dubas if he's suffered some cognitive illness?


        I feel like the last 2 are fair (or at least close).

        Ott is close if Ott were interested in buying (which they certainly aren’t)
        20 janv. à 21 h 42
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        Quoting: Victor24
        I feel like the last 2 are fair (or at least close).

        Ott is close if Ott were interested in buying (which they certainly aren’t)


        No Seattle isn't close Ottawa semi reasonable
        20 janv. à 22 h 22
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        Guentzel trades are a joke, No single Non-Playoff team is going to acquire him. Sorry but pending UFAs don't return anywhere close to those kind of returns.
        20 janv. à 23 h 47
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        Quoting: Victor24
        I feel like the last 2 are fair (or at least close).

        Ott is close if Ott were interested in buying (which they certainly aren’t)


        Vancouver one is realistic. Ottawa could probably get more for chychrun and tarasenko and use those assets to send to Pitt and still have some leftover
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        21 janv. à 11 h 58
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        Quoting: Justafan79
        No Seattle isn't close Ottawa semi reasonable


        Seattle isn't close? Wright is a really good prospect but OP adjusted for that by sending a 2nd back.

        So Seattle would be trading a middle 6 guy (with flashes of top 6), a really good prospect and a trade down by 20ish spots for one if the best forwards in the NHL.

        Now, I'm not saying Seattle would or should do this, but the value is fair.
        21 janv. à 12 h 2
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        Quoting: MoSeider53
        Guentzel trades are a joke, No single Non-Playoff team is going to acquire him. Sorry but pending UFAs don't return anywhere close to those kind of returns.


        I agree with the non-playoff team thing but the evaluation for one of the best players in the NHL is going to be high. Even as a rental.

        The closest comp I can see for a rental in season trade is Hossa. 40+ goal scorer on the block in his prime. The Pens traded 2 NHL middle 6 guys, a 1st, and their best prospect (who was ranked in the 30s at the time).
        21 janv. à 14 h 30
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        Quoting: Victor24
        Seattle isn't close? Wright is a really good prospect but OP adjusted for that by sending a 2nd back.

        So Seattle would be trading a middle 6 guy (with flashes of top 6), a really good prospect and a trade down by 20ish spots for one if the best forwards in the NHL.

        Now, I'm not saying Seattle would or should do this, but the value is fair.


        I think Guentzel is in that 3 tier
        1 Kucherov McDavid Mathews
        2 Points Marners Panarin
        Then the Guentzels of the game so, if Guentzels were 26/27 maybe but he's 29 an UFA at seasons end doesn't get that return
         
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